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The apology brigade is out in force, I see.

 

Samardzija got a very borderline call on a 3-2 pitch for his first out, then gave up a solid gb single, then couldn't execute a pitchout, then gave up a deep line drive that was fortunately in the deepest part of the park, then gave up a solid double, then induced a popup.

 

ERA of 9, WHIP of 2.00, hitters hit 400/400/600 off of him.

 

There's no way you can slice this into a good outing. It was a bad outing.

 

I don't think stats mean much when it comes to one inning.

 

The "runs allowed in the inning" stat, unfortunately, does.

 

Talk about narrow-mindness thinking...

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The apology brigade is out in force, I see.

 

Samardzija got a very borderline call on a 3-2 pitch for his first out, then gave up a solid gb single, then couldn't execute a pitchout, then gave up a deep line drive that was fortunately in the deepest part of the park, then gave up a solid double, then induced a popup.

 

ERA of 9, WHIP of 2.00, hitters hit 400/400/600 off of him.

 

There's no way you can slice this into a good outing. It was a bad outing.

 

He gave up 2 hits to two very good hitters, and he got a K. Using rate stats to evaluate his outing makes you look ridiculous.

 

Not singling anyone out, but I think some people just get in their mind that they aren't going to like a guy, no matter what. That or a decision made by Lou. (kinda like my anger with batting Ward with the bases loaded in the 6th)

 

Shark could have whiffed the side and people would still complain about the opening 2 pitches.

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The apology brigade is out in force, I see.

 

Samardzija got a very borderline call on a 3-2 pitch for his first out, then gave up a solid gb single, then couldn't execute a pitchout, then gave up a deep line drive that was fortunately in the deepest part of the park, then gave up a solid double, then induced a popup.

 

ERA of 9, WHIP of 2.00, hitters hit 400/400/600 off of him.

 

There's no way you can slice this into a good outing. It was a bad outing.

 

 

Talk about small samples.

 

It was the largest possible sample for discussing the question "How was his outing."

 

It wasn't just a sample, it was the entire population of potential data for his outing.

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The apology brigade is out in force, I see.

 

Samardzija got a very borderline call on a 3-2 pitch for his first out, then gave up a solid gb single, then couldn't execute a pitchout, then gave up a deep line drive that was fortunately in the deepest part of the park, then gave up a solid double, then induced a popup.

 

ERA of 9, WHIP of 2.00, hitters hit 400/400/600 off of him.

 

There's no way you can slice this into a good outing. It was a bad outing.

 

He gave up 2 hits to two very good hitters, and he got a K. Using rate stats to evaluate his outing makes you look ridiculous.

 

Not singling anyone out, but I think some people just get in their mind that they aren't going to like a guy, no matter what. That or a decision made by Lou. (kinda like my anger with batting Ward with the bases loaded in the 6th)

 

Shark could have whiffed the side and people would still complain about the opening 2 pitches.

 

 

Right phenomenom, wrong conclusion.

 

People were going to say it was a decent outing no matter what happened. They want to like the new Cubs young pitcher, they want to be excited by his debut, so they convince themselves it was good, when it wasn't.

 

His fastball sure is pretty, though.

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The apology brigade is out in force, I see.

 

Samardzija got a very borderline call on a 3-2 pitch for his first out, then gave up a solid gb single, then couldn't execute a pitchout, then gave up a deep line drive that was fortunately in the deepest part of the park, then gave up a solid double, then induced a popup.

 

ERA of 9, WHIP of 2.00, hitters hit 400/400/600 off of him.

 

There's no way you can slice this into a good outing. It was a bad outing.

 

He gave up 2 hits to two very good hitters, and he got a K. Using rate stats to evaluate his outing makes you look ridiculous.

 

Not singling anyone out, but I think some people just get in their mind that they aren't going to like a guy, no matter what. That or a decision made by Lou. (kinda like my anger with batting Ward with the bases loaded in the 6th)

 

Shark could have whiffed the side and people would still complain about the opening 2 pitches.

 

 

Right phenomenom, wrong conclusion.

 

People were going to say it was a decent outing no matter what happened. They want to like the new Cubs young pitcher, they want to be excited by his debut, so they convince themselves it was good, when it wasn't.

 

His fastball sure is pretty, though.

 

I'm pretty sure a lot of people here don't like him because of the hype, the contract and the university he went to.

 

Didn't watch the inning but he gave up a run in an inning and that isn't good.

 

It's not surprising that people don't expect the a great outing when a player makes his debut and have lowered expectations. That you must rate the outing on solely absolutes of good and bad when considering it's a player making his big league debut is strange.

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