Jim Edmonds Signs With Cubs, Pie to AAA

[NonProfitCow]

just kinda brainstorming out loud here, but if edmonds is indeed washed up, maybe we can see if brian mcrae or lance johnson have anything left in the tank?

 

I hear Stan Musial's available.

 

Maybe the most underrated player in baseball history. Had he played in New York or Boston he'd be a deity like Mantle or Williams.

 

1815 hits at home...1815 hits away. 3 MVP awards and 4 second place finishes. Dude had some serious game.

 

His 1948 season is flat out sick.

[RedFlash]

I'm excited only because I love when we get new players in the middle of the season. Yes I can already hear the replies in my head. But it's low risk and Lou will NOT stick with him for too long if he doesn't find his stroke (<- that's a joke right there I beat you to it by noting it, so don't even try)

 

I for one, as long as Edmonds behaves himself, will welcome him as a Cub. Hey, anyone who wants to stick it to the cards (<- that's a joke too so don't try it here either), is a friend in my book.

 

:thumbsup:

 

You know what else would make him a friend in alot of people books.......if he is actually productive on the field. Otheriwse, we're looking at a possible white Jacques Jones situation.....

[BCVM22]

I'll be shocked if he puts up even Jacque numbers.

[A New Era]

I'm excited only because I love when we get new players in the middle of the season. Yes I can already hear the replies in my head. But it's low risk and Lou will NOT stick with him for too long if he doesn't find his stroke (<- that's a joke right there I beat you to it by noting it, so don't even try)

 

I for one, as long as Edmonds behaves himself, will welcome him as a Cub. Hey, anyone who wants to stick it to the cards (<- that's a joke too so don't try it here either), is a friend in my book.

 

:thumbsup:

 

You know what else would make him a friend in alot of people books.......if he is actually productive on the field. Otheriwse, we're looking at a possible white Jacques Jones situation.....

 

Well that's what I'm hoping for. If he helps us, then I'm a fan. All I care about is wining.

[USSoccer]

I'm excited only because I love when we get new players in the middle of the season. Yes I can already hear the replies in my head. But it's low risk and Lou will NOT stick with him for too long if he doesn't find his stroke (<- that's a joke right there I beat you to it by noting it, so don't even try)

 

I for one, as long as Edmonds behaves himself, will welcome him as a Cub. Hey, anyone who wants to stick it to the cards (<- that's a joke too so don't try it here either), is a friend in my book.

 

:thumbsup:

 

You know what else would make him a friend in alot of people books.......if he is actually productive on the field. Otheriwse, we're looking at a possible white Jacques Jones situation.....

 

Well that's what I'm hoping for. If he helps us, then I'm a fan. All I care about is wining.

 

If all you care about is winning, then you should re evaluate your opinion on this move, which is at least in the team photo of dumbest, most short sighted moves ever by this organization.

[YearofDaCubs]

"Hopefully Jimmy still has something left and it was just a bad start," general manager Jim Hendry said.

 

hopefully? is that how a GM is supposed to run a team?

Hendry's stupidity never ceases to amaze me..Let's all hope a competent owner buys the Cubs and clears house from top to bottom.

[The Voice of Reason]

He was playing against Cubs pitching, Jim. That's why he was so good at Wrigley. Now he won't be facing Cubs pitching. This same rationale was used for signing Jeff Blauser and look at how that turned out.

 

No, he was good at Wrigley because he was an other-worldly baseball player for a 6 year stretch from 2000-2005; consequently, those were the years he played in the National League Central against the Cubs.

 

So facing the Cubs "pitching staff" (and I use that term loosely) had nothing to do with it? Really? I agree he had good number those years, but facing the Cubs staff had a lot to do with those numbers at Wrigley. Daniel Garaby strikes fear into the hearts of no one.

I think he was saying that facing the Cubs pitching staff didn't have much to do with it. Against all of baseball from 2000-2006 Edmonds averaged a 147 OPS+. He was just really damn good.

 

and on steroids.

[Springfield_CUBBY]

Here's my question: In all of this hulla-ba-loo, there has been almost no comment from Jimmy himself. Why? What's his take on all of this? Can anyone point me to a comment from our new bff je??????

[Magnetic Curses]

Here's my question: In all of this hulla-ba-loo, there has been almost no comment from Jimmy himself. Why? What's his take on all of this? Can anyone point me to a comment from our new bff je??????

 

the only comment from him was a long, sinister laugh.

[Springfield_CUBBY]

Here's my question: In all of this hulla-ba-loo, there has been almost no comment from Jimmy himself. Why? What's his take on all of this? Can anyone point me to a comment from our new bff je??????

 

the only comment from him was a long, sinister laugh.

[points to avitar]

[soapy]

i made my hatred of this move known yesterday. now that it happened, i guess i'll just have to hope they've found lightning in a bottle. i just don't see it.

 

sigh...

[TruffleShuffle]

just kinda brainstorming out loud here, but if edmonds is indeed washed up, maybe we can see if brian mcrae or lance johnson have anything left in the tank?

 

I hear Stan Musial's available.

 

Maybe the most underrated player in baseball history. Had he played in New York or Boston he'd be a deity like Mantle or Williams.

 

that would be unfortunate, because he wasn't as good as either of those guys... he was very slightly worse than mantle but appreciably worse than williams.

[Derwood]

EYELINERMASCARAHALFSHIRTGAYLOLZ!1!!1111111!!!1!ONE!11!

[Jon]

The gay jokes have to stop. Anyone who continues them will risk getting a day off.

[TheDude]

If all you care about is winning, then you should re evaluate your opinion on this move, which is at least in the team photo of dumbest, most short sighted moves ever by this organization.

 

Your post belongs in that photo, as it is the very definition of short-sighted. You cannot accurately make a definitive evaluation before the guy has played one game. You're vision doesn't even extend into game one of a sample size.

 

It may be likely and trend-supported that Edmonds turns out to be a terrible signing, but it's not a fact and can't be judged at this point with the worst Hendry moves. There is a chance that now playing for a winning team in a ballpark he has raked his whole career (.918 OPS career at Wrigley) results in an .800+ OPS and a dozen HR for a part time player.

[TruffleShuffle]

i wouldn't care if every player on the cubs was 100% flaming, if they could play well. i'd take super stud hitting hero jim edmonds from five years ago on the cubs, any day of the week. i do not want 38 year old slammin bad hitting lefty jim edmonds.

[Tracer Bullet]

If all you care about is winning, then you should re evaluate your opinion on this move, which is at least in the team photo of dumbest, most short sighted moves ever by this organization.

 

Your post belongs in that photo, as it is the very definition of short-sighted. You cannot accurately make a definitive evaluation before the guy has played one game. You're vision doesn't even extend into game one of a sample size.

 

It may be likely and trend-supported that Edmonds turns out to be a terrible signing, but it's not a fact and can't be judged at this point with the worst Hendry moves. There is a chance that now playing for a winning team in a ballpark he has raked his whole career (.918 OPS career at Wrigley) results in an .800+ OPS and a dozen HR for a part time player.

 

Edmonds has a .904 career OPS. His OPS at Wrigley is almost exactly his career OPS. So he doesn't rake at Wrigley any more than he raked everywhere when he was good.

[Derwood]

The gay jokes have to stop. Anyone who continues them will risk getting a day off.

 

thank you

[mul21]

If all you care about is winning, then you should re evaluate your opinion on this move, which is at least in the team photo of dumbest, most short sighted moves ever by this organization.

 

Your post belongs in that photo, as it is the very definition of short-sighted. You cannot accurately make a definitive evaluation before the guy has played one game. You're vision doesn't even extend into game one of a sample size.

 

It may be likely and trend-supported that Edmonds turns out to be a terrible signing, but it's not a fact and can't be judged at this point with the worst Hendry moves. There is a chance that now playing for a winning team in a ballpark he has raked his whole career (.918 OPS career at Wrigley) results in an .800+ OPS and a dozen HR for a part time player.

 

The fact that most rational people are upset about this has very little to do with the potential good or suckage Edmonds will bring or their general hatred of him. It has everything to do with the Cubs mishandling yet another of their young players. Period, end of story. If there was nobody to put out there other than Johnson, fine, do it, but that's not the case.

 

The fact that he will most likely be bad just adds to the dislike of the move.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

He was playing against Cubs pitching, Jim. That's why he was so good at Wrigley. Now he won't be facing Cubs pitching. This same rationale was used for signing Jeff Blauser and look at how that turned out.

 

No, he was good at Wrigley because he was an other-worldly baseball player for a 6 year stretch from 2000-2005; consequently, those were the years he played in the National League Central against the Cubs.

 

So facing the Cubs "pitching staff" (and I use that term loosely) had nothing to do with it? Really? I agree he had good number those years, but facing the Cubs staff had a lot to do with those numbers at Wrigley. Daniel Garaby strikes fear into the hearts of no one.

I think he was saying that facing the Cubs pitching staff didn't have much to do with it. Against all of baseball from 2000-2006 Edmonds averaged a 147 OPS+. He was just really damn good.

career OPS at current NL Central parks:

Wrigley - 918

Busch - 735 (1008 at Busch II)

Minute Maid - 915

Miller - 950

GAB - 889

PNC - 1033

 

not too shabby, let's hope he still has something left

[CubinNY]

OK, I'm not much for coming down on the board as the board isn't really a person. However, here's the deal: I freaking hated Jim Edmonds, mostly because he was a show-off, but he was good. Now he probably isn't good, but he'll be playing for the Cubs. Boy does that suck (no pun intended).

 

If he sucks (no pun intended) lets all pile on JIM HENDRY (no pun intended) not Jim Edmonds. Edmonds didn't hold a gun to Hendry's head (or more likely a dozen crispy creams to his mouth. See, I'm piling on already). Edmonds is a mostly innocent party to this travishamockery.

 

So, let's all get behind Edmonds (no pun intended) and give him a break.

 

I hope he admires a dozen HRs and really sticks it to the Cardinals (no pun intended).

 

There, I said it.

[wekse]

krispy kreme

[TheDude]

The fact that most rational people are upset about this has very little to do with the potential good or suckage Edmonds will bring or their general hatred of him. It has everything to do with the Cubs mishandling yet another of their young players. Period, end of story. If there was nobody to put out there other than Johnson, fine, do it, but that's not the case.

 

The fact that he will most likely be bad just adds to the dislike of the move.

 

Pie is still young, and there is no reason to believe his career is over or mismanaged to minutia. What surprises me is so that so many people around here are surprised by this move. Hendry and Piniella have repeatedly stated a desire to find a left-handed HR potential to plug in the 5-spot.

 

Pie, even is if he excels in his limited role so far, doesn't fit the bill for this season (emphasis on this season). It is debatable, obviously, whether or not Edmonds fits the bill, but clearly management feels he has a better shot this year than Pie at satisfying the need.

 

I don't see this as being about approval or disapproval of Pie's production. It's about the 2008 lineup puzzle that Piniella and Hendry obsess over. They want that lefty HR potential in the middle.

 

Switching gears: should Edmonds get in the lineup and produce at all, it's likely Fukudome finally moves up to 2-spot and Theriot down to the 8-spot, which means we might see Lee and Ramirez hitting in the first inning with Fukudome on about 40% of the time all season long. I like that quite a bit.

[mul21]

Pie is still young, and there is no reason to believe his career is over or mismanaged to minutia. What surprises me is so that so many people around here are surprised by this move. Hendry and Piniella have repeatedly stated a desire to find a left-handed HR potential to plug in the 5-spot.

 

Pie, even is if he excels in his limited role so far, doesn't fit the bill for this season (emphasis on this season). It is debatable, obviously, whether or not Edmonds fits the bill, but clearly management feels he has a better shot this year than Pie at satisfying the need.

 

I don't see this as being about approval or disapproval of Pie's production. It's about the 2008 lineup puzzle that Piniella and Hendry obsess over. They want that lefty HR potential in the middle.

Switching gears: should Edmonds get in the lineup and produce at all, it's likely Fukudome finally moves up to 2-spot and Theriot down to the 8-spot, which means we might see Lee and Ramirez hitting in the first inning with Fukudome on about 40% of the time all season long. I like that quite a bit.

 

Yea, let's solve problems that don't exist.

 

I understand your explanation, which is perfectly reasonable. However, it doesn't excuse the Cubs management braintrust (using that term very loosely at this point) from trying to fix something that's not broken. I mean, really, does there need to be additions made to an offense that's leading the league in scoring?

 

And, yes, if Edmonds can gain back his form of old, pushing Fuku into the 2 spot and Theriot to the 8, assuming they maintain close to their current production, makes the offense ridiculous.

[Tyrant]

Ok guys, I have not posted in a while and I am sure I am going to be ripped for this one, but I have to share it with everyone nonetheless.

 

I live here in DSM and David Kaplan was just on a local Sports radio station. He stated among other things that Greg Maddux told him personally that Edmonds still has some good in him and that he is "extremely motivated to stick it to the Cards". Maddux told Kaplan that many of Edmaonds problems were due to the spacious centerfield in Petco. To my surprise he also ripped Pie saying basically that he has a case of and I quote "Big League-itis". He said several veterens are not happy that he does not get the park and work and that the Chicago nightlife is a problem for him. He said he thought this was becoming quite a problem and he needs to come here to Iowa and regain a focus if he wants to fulfill his talent.

 

That was the jist of the discussion. I know it will probably be ripped by most, but I have to admit it made the whole thing a bit more paletable for me!

 

That's the first I've heard about Pie living too much of a night life in Chicago. I don't know if it's true or not, but I hate when reporters spread these kinds of things if they don't absolutely know it's true.

 

There was also some talk of this last year. Again, not sure if it's true, but it's been mentioned before.