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Yes, Mark Teahen is the worst RF in baseball. He's one year removed from a .300 EqA and is just 26. He's much better than a lot of slop some teams will throw out there: St Louis and Pittsburgh come to mind immediately - among others. Good job Dayn Perry at being dumb.

 

Correct answers:

 

C - Jason Kendall, Milwaukee (HM to Brad Ausmus when he plays)

1B - Ben Broussard/Chris Shelton/slop, Texas Rangers

2B - Kazuo Matsui, Houston (HM to Grudzielanek and Jose Lopez)

SS - Cesar Izturis, St Louis (HM to Tony Pena/Angel Berroa)

3B - Pedro Feliz, Philadelphia (HM to Dallas McPherson)

LF - Juan Pierre, Los Angeles Dodgers (HM to Eric Byrnes, Jacque Jones and Jason Michaels)

CF - Mark Kotsay, Atlanta (HM to Josh Anderson and Skip Schumaker if he plays over Rasmus)

RF - Shane Victorino, Philadelphia (HM to Jeff Francoeur)

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Haven't you heard Meph? Everyone on the current St. Louis team is in the Top 5 echelon of greatest position players of all time. This is the word of our Lord.

 

Praise be to Perry

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bd811: Dayn Perry is the worst writer in baseball

 

IDK, read some Tracy Ringolsby.

 

Hat Guy and Barry Rozner also.

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Victorino plays CF now.

 

Hey I have an idea stop trolling me and if you're going to troll me actually respond to my comments. You know what I'm talking about. I know you have a personal vendetta against me and all, but you don't look great when you make up stuff and then never respond when you get called on it.

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just a clarification, stop :cry:

He's right, Meph. Emoticon's are seriously lame and you should stop using them.

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Yes, Mark Teahen is the worst RF in baseball. He's one year removed from a .300 EqA and is just 26. He's much better than a lot of slop some teams will throw out there: St Louis and Pittsburgh come to mind immediately - among others. Good job Dayn Perry at being dumb.

 

Correct answers:

 

C - Jason Kendall, Milwaukee (HM to Brad Ausmus when he plays)

1B - Ben Broussard/Chris Shelton/slop, Texas Rangers

2B - Kazuo Matsui, Houston (HM to Grudzielanek and Jose Lopez)

SS - Cesar Izturis, St Louis (HM to Tony Pena/Angel Berroa)

3B - Pedro Feliz, Philadelphia (HM to Dallas McPherson)

LF - Juan Pierre, Los Angeles Dodgers (HM to Eric Byrnes, Jacque Jones and Jason Michaels)

CF - Mark Kotsay, Atlanta (HM to Josh Anderson and Skip Schumaker if he plays over Rasmus)

RF - Shane Victorino, Philadelphia (HM to Jeff Francoeur)

 

If you think Jeff Francoeur is one of the worst RF in baseball....remind me to never take anything you say serious again.

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Yes, Mark Teahen is the worst RF in baseball. He's one year removed from a .300 EqA and is just 26. He's much better than a lot of slop some teams will throw out there: St Louis and Pittsburgh come to mind immediately - among others. Good job Dayn Perry at being dumb.

 

Correct answers:

 

C - Jason Kendall, Milwaukee (HM to Brad Ausmus when he plays)

1B - Ben Broussard/Chris Shelton/slop, Texas Rangers

2B - Kazuo Matsui, Houston (HM to Grudzielanek and Jose Lopez)

SS - Cesar Izturis, St Louis (HM to Tony Pena/Angel Berroa)

3B - Pedro Feliz, Philadelphia (HM to Dallas McPherson)

LF - Juan Pierre, Los Angeles Dodgers (HM to Eric Byrnes, Jacque Jones and Jason Michaels)

CF - Mark Kotsay, Atlanta (HM to Josh Anderson and Skip Schumaker if he plays over Rasmus)

RF - Shane Victorino, Philadelphia (HM to Jeff Francoeur)

 

:-k

That list includes several ex-Cubs, but no present ones; does that mean the Cubs are getting better?

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Yes, Mark Teahen is the worst RF in baseball. He's one year removed from a .300 EqA and is just 26. He's much better than a lot of slop some teams will throw out there: St Louis and Pittsburgh come to mind immediately - among others. Good job Dayn Perry at being dumb.

 

Correct answers:

 

C - Jason Kendall, Milwaukee (HM to Brad Ausmus when he plays)

1B - Ben Broussard/Chris Shelton/slop, Texas Rangers

2B - Kazuo Matsui, Houston (HM to Grudzielanek and Jose Lopez)

SS - Cesar Izturis, St Louis (HM to Tony Pena/Angel Berroa)

3B - Pedro Feliz, Philadelphia (HM to Dallas McPherson)

LF - Juan Pierre, Los Angeles Dodgers (HM to Eric Byrnes, Jacque Jones and Jason Michaels)

CF - Mark Kotsay, Atlanta (HM to Josh Anderson and Skip Schumaker if he plays over Rasmus)

RF - Shane Victorino, Philadelphia (HM to Jeff Francoeur)

 

If you think Jeff Francoeur is one of the worst RF in baseball....remind me to never take anything you say serious again.

 

Yeah, pretty ridiculous.

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Yes, Mark Teahen is the worst RF in baseball. He's one year removed from a .300 EqA and is just 26. He's much better than a lot of slop some teams will throw out there: St Louis and Pittsburgh come to mind immediately - among others. Good job Dayn Perry at being dumb.

 

Correct answers:

 

C - Jason Kendall, Milwaukee (HM to Brad Ausmus when he plays)

1B - Ben Broussard/Chris Shelton/slop, Texas Rangers

2B - Kazuo Matsui, Houston (HM to Grudzielanek and Jose Lopez)

SS - Cesar Izturis, St Louis (HM to Tony Pena/Angel Berroa)

3B - Pedro Feliz, Philadelphia (HM to Dallas McPherson)

LF - Juan Pierre, Los Angeles Dodgers (HM to Eric Byrnes, Jacque Jones and Jason Michaels)

CF - Mark Kotsay, Atlanta (HM to Josh Anderson and Skip Schumaker if he plays over Rasmus)

RF - Shane Victorino, Philadelphia (HM to Jeff Francoeur)

 

If you think Jeff Francoeur is one of the worst RF in baseball....remind me to never take anything you say serious again.

 

Yeah, pretty ridiculous.

I don't understand the Eric Byrnes one either.

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Yes, Mark Teahen is the worst RF in baseball. He's one year removed from a .300 EqA and is just 26. He's much better than a lot of slop some teams will throw out there: St Louis and Pittsburgh come to mind immediately - among others. Good job Dayn Perry at being dumb.

 

Correct answers:

 

C - Jason Kendall, Milwaukee (HM to Brad Ausmus when he plays)

1B - Ben Broussard/Chris Shelton/slop, Texas Rangers

2B - Kazuo Matsui, Houston (HM to Grudzielanek and Jose Lopez)

SS - Cesar Izturis, St Louis (HM to Tony Pena/Angel Berroa)

3B - Pedro Feliz, Philadelphia (HM to Dallas McPherson)

LF - Juan Pierre, Los Angeles Dodgers (HM to Eric Byrnes, Jacque Jones and Jason Michaels)

CF - Mark Kotsay, Atlanta (HM to Josh Anderson and Skip Schumaker if he plays over Rasmus)

RF - Shane Victorino, Philadelphia (HM to Jeff Francoeur)

 

If you think Jeff Francoeur is one of the worst RF in baseball....remind me to never take anything you say serious again.

 

Yeah, pretty ridiculous.

I don't understand the Eric Byrnes one either.

Yeah, this may have been a fluke year for Byrnes, but he's been average to above average almsot every season. There are worse left fielders. And I don't really get Broussard/ Shelton unless you couldn't think of anyone better (or worse in this case).

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Yes, Mark Teahen is the worst RF in baseball. He's one year removed from a .300 EqA and is just 26. He's much better than a lot of slop some teams will throw out there: St Louis and Pittsburgh come to mind immediately - among others. Good job Dayn Perry at being dumb.

 

Correct answers:

 

C - Jason Kendall, Milwaukee (HM to Brad Ausmus when he plays)

1B - Ben Broussard/Chris Shelton/slop, Texas Rangers

2B - Kazuo Matsui, Houston (HM to Grudzielanek and Jose Lopez)

SS - Cesar Izturis, St Louis (HM to Tony Pena/Angel Berroa)

3B - Pedro Feliz, Philadelphia (HM to Dallas McPherson)

LF - Juan Pierre, Los Angeles Dodgers (HM to Eric Byrnes, Jacque Jones and Jason Michaels)

CF - Mark Kotsay, Atlanta (HM to Josh Anderson and Skip Schumaker if he plays over Rasmus)

RF - Shane Victorino, Philadelphia (HM to Jeff Francoeur)

 

If you think Jeff Francoeur is one of the worst RF in baseball....remind me to never take anything you say serious again.

 

Let's look at the projected starters in RF across the majors:

 

.305 Magglio Ordonez

.303 Kosuke Fukudome

.301 Vladimir Guerrero

.298 Bobby Abreu

.296 Milton Bradley

.296 Jeremy Hermida

.295 Corey Hart

.290 Travis Buck

.287 Nick Markakis

.287 Matt Kemp

.284 Hunter Pence

.284 Michael Cuddyer

.284 Alex Rios

.283 Ryan Church

.282 JD Drew

.282 Jermaine Dye

.282 Brad Hawpe

.280 Austin Kearns

.277 Brian Giles

.277 Rocco Baldelli

.276 Ken Griffey

.276 Franklin Gutierrez

.275 Mark Teahen

.272 Xavier Nady

.271 Brad Wilkerson

.271 Geoff Jenkins

.271 Jeff Francoeur

.270 Randy Winn

.267 Rick Ankiel

.267 Justin Upton

 

I like Winn and Upton's defense over his and I thought about listing Rick Ankiel though.

 

And now regarding Eric Byrnes:

.307 Ryan Braun

.306 Adam Dunn

.303 Pat Burrell

.302 Manny Ramirez

.295 Moises Alou

.295 Matt Holliday

.289 Jason Bay

.289 Carl Crawford

.289 Josh Willingham

.288 Carlos Lee

.286 Alfonso Soriano

.285 Raul Ibanez

.283 Chris Duncan

.283 Johnny Damon

.282 Wily Mo Pena

.282 Delmon Young

.280 Scott Hairston

.280 Luke Scott

.279 Carlos Quentin

.276 David Dellucci

.273 Jose Guillen

.272 Matt Diaz

.269 Marlon Byrd

.268 Garret Anderson

.267 Eric Byrnes

.264 Dave Roberts

.260 Emil Brown

.253 Reed Johnson

.253 Jacque Jones

.247 Juan Pierre

 

 

Below Byrnes are Roberts and Pierre as the only guys with fulltime gigs. Although Roberts will probably be out eventually. Jones, Brown and Johnson are platoon guys.

 

 

So yeah, Byrnes and Francoeur are near the bottom of their respective positions. Francoeur is a bit of an enigma. He burst on the scene for two months, and has hit like crap since that September getting progressively worse. Still he has quality tools but like many toolsy guys before him he's hackprone

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Yes, Mark Teahen is the worst RF in baseball. He's one year removed from a .300 EqA and is just 26. He's much better than a lot of slop some teams will throw out there: St Louis and Pittsburgh come to mind immediately - among others. Good job Dayn Perry at being dumb.

 

Correct answers:

 

C - Jason Kendall, Milwaukee (HM to Brad Ausmus when he plays)

1B - Ben Broussard/Chris Shelton/slop, Texas Rangers

2B - Kazuo Matsui, Houston (HM to Grudzielanek and Jose Lopez)

SS - Cesar Izturis, St Louis (HM to Tony Pena/Angel Berroa)

3B - Pedro Feliz, Philadelphia (HM to Dallas McPherson)

LF - Juan Pierre, Los Angeles Dodgers (HM to Eric Byrnes, Jacque Jones and Jason Michaels)

CF - Mark Kotsay, Atlanta (HM to Josh Anderson and Skip Schumaker if he plays over Rasmus)

RF - Shane Victorino, Philadelphia (HM to Jeff Francoeur)

 

If you think Jeff Francoeur is one of the worst RF in baseball....remind me to never take anything you say serious again.

 

Let's look at the projected starters in RF across the majors:

 

.305 Magglio Ordonez

.303 Kosuke Fukudome

.301 Vladimir Guerrero

.298 Bobby Abreu

.296 Milton Bradley

.296 Jeremy Hermida

.295 Corey Hart

.290 Travis Buck

.287 Nick Markakis

.287 Matt Kemp

.284 Hunter Pence

.284 Michael Cuddyer

.284 Alex Rios

.283 Ryan Church

.282 JD Drew

.282 Jermaine Dye

.282 Brad Hawpe

.280 Austin Kearns

.277 Brian Giles

.277 Rocco Baldelli

.276 Ken Griffey

.276 Franklin Gutierrez

.275 Mark Teahen

.272 Xavier Nady

.271 Brad Wilkerson

.271 Geoff Jenkins

.271 Jeff Francoeur

.270 Randy Winn

.267 Rick Ankiel

.267 Justin Upton

 

I like Winn and Upton's defense over his and I thought about listing Rick Ankiel though.

 

And now regarding Eric Byrnes:

.307 Ryan Braun

.306 Adam Dunn

.303 Pat Burrell

.302 Manny Ramirez

.295 Moises Alou

.295 Matt Holliday

.289 Jason Bay

.289 Carl Crawford

.289 Josh Willingham

.288 Carlos Lee

.286 Alfonso Soriano

.285 Raul Ibanez

.283 Chris Duncan

.283 Johnny Damon

.282 Wily Mo Pena

.282 Delmon Young

.280 Scott Hairston

.280 Luke Scott

.279 Carlos Quentin

.276 David Dellucci

.273 Jose Guillen

.272 Matt Diaz

.269 Marlon Byrd

.268 Garret Anderson

.267 Eric Byrnes

.264 Dave Roberts

.260 Emil Brown

.253 Reed Johnson

.253 Jacque Jones

.247 Juan Pierre

 

 

Below Byrnes are Roberts and Pierre as the only guys with fulltime gigs. Although Roberts will probably be out eventually. Jones, Brown and Johnson are platoon guys.

 

 

So yeah, Byrnes and Francoeur are near the bottom of their respective positions. Francoeur is a bit of an enigma. He burst on the scene for two months, and has hit like crap since that September getting progressively worse. Still he has quality tools but like many toolsy guys before him he's hackprone

 

I stand somewhat corrected. The only argument I have is some of the guys above Byrnes have been primarily platoon players in the past. Duncan, Dellucci, and Diaz come to mind off the top of my head. I doubt they could put up the numbers Brynes does over a full season. Luke Scott being another one that has platooned in the past.

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What are those numbers? I'm suprised to see Fukudome ranked that high.

 

Also, Francoeur posted a 103 OPS+ last year. That's average, but not horrible. A guy like Teahen was below him, yet you have him ranked above. There's a whole host of guys on that list who posted a simlar 100-ish OPS+, some of whom didn't even put in full seasons.

 

I don't think Francoeur's great or anything. Don't get me wrong. I'll take Kosuke, thank you very much.

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