White Sox trade Jon Garland for Orlando Cabrera

[nilodnayr]

The trade doesn't really make sense for either team.

 

The sox should be blowing this thing up, but they are moving in the opposite direction. To their credit, they just traded a Type B FA for a Type A FA. With Garland being better in 06 and OCab being better in 07, unless anything drastic happens they will probably stay in those types. He also frees up money, but he'll probably spend it foolishly on Hunter/Rowand. Unfortunately for him, he picked up Uribe's option and theres no market for trading him.

 

On the Angels side of the table, they have competent youngsters that could step in and do just as well if not better than Garland. However, Garland is going to a better park for pitchers, maybe they think his HR will cut down.

 

Both players are well overrated and as of now don't fit into either team's plans. We'll have to see how this one plays out, but I think we just saw a trade between two organizations that have no clue where they are/should be going.

[jmajew]

Does this save the Sox any money? If i recall correctly i think Cabrera makes 8 mil a year. If that is the case are the Angels sending over some money?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Does this save the Sox any money? If i recall correctly i think Cabrera makes 8 mil a year. If that is the case are the Angels sending over some money?

Cabrera is due $9M in 08 and Garland $12M

[cheapseats]

I know Garland isn't great, but this is still a really stupid trade. Cabrera isn't all that good, and I don't see how the White Sox are any better after this deal.

 

Why resign Uribe if you're going to trade for Cabrera?

 

When you say Cabrera "isn't all that good," do you mean you think he's unlikely to reproduce his 2007 season?

 

Because he was the best shortstop in the AL last year by WARP3, barely edging out Young and Jeter.

[Post Count Padder]

Sort of an odd trade. The Angels really didn't need pitching and the White Sox, while they need offense, re-signed their starting shortstop already.

[reggiemiller rules]

I think that the Angels got Garland so that they could include one or two of Weaver,Santana, or Saunders in a trade for Cabrera.

[Larry Horse]

Actually a proactive trade. Sox were not going to resign Garland, they are going to re-up Cabrera and they have now a huge upgrade at SS in return for a pitcher that won 10 games last year.

 

And if they don't trade Uribe, they have a guy who can play a pretty decent sub role.

[USSoccer]

I know Garland isn't great, but this is still a really stupid trade. Cabrera isn't all that good, and I don't see how the White Sox are any better after this deal.

 

Why resign Uribe if you're going to trade for Cabrera?

 

When you say Cabrera "isn't all that good," do you mean you think he's unlikely to reproduce his 2007 season?

 

Because he was the best shortstop in the AL last year by WARP3, barely edging out Young and Jeter.

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Yes, this is what I mean.

[rocket]

ozzie's pissed because there's no room for eckstein on the roster now.

[rawaction]

Cabrera is the best SS in Chicago by far.

[erik316wttn]

Maybe Kenny knows the Cubs are in the market for a SS and covets someone in particular that we have got. Might he try to turn around and flip O.Cab to us for something like Marshall+Murton? I'm not suggesting the trade by any means, just wondering what the Sox might be up to. Also I would think that this makes Santana being involved in any M.Cabrera to the Angels trade much more likely.

 

Any deal that Hendry makes from now on has to include 1-2 crappy middle IF going to the other team to clear up our surplus.

 

I would disagree that the Cubs have a huge surplus right now if nobody else is signed as is rumored. Let's say DeRosa and Theriot are the starters. Infante is the right-handed platoon partner in CF and the backup to 2B and SS. Cedeno and Fontenot battle it out for the other bench spot, with Cedeno probably winning it.

 

It wouldn't be bad if 1 of the middle IF's left via trade, but I disagree that there is a massive surplus of them. It's just that there's only 1 pretty good one among the group, and a bunch that are struggling to make it to average.

 

Hendry has an entire offseason yet to add to his 2B/SS collection.

[inari]

Cabrera is the best SS in Chicago by far.

 

Completely true. I doubt we could have acquired him though. I would've given up Marquis for him, but the Angels certainly wouldn't.

[Soul]

It takes very little to become the best SS in Chicago these days. Yes, Cabrera is clearly the guy.

[Outshined_One]

I could see this as a prelude to the Angels signing A-Rod or trading for Tejada.

[CubColtPacer]

I could see this as a prelude to the Angels signing A-Rod or trading for Tejada.

 

You think the Yankees deal with A-Rod will fall apart? Seems awfully far along in the process combined with such a huge contract makes it incredibly unlikely IMO that one side would walk away now.

[Outshined_One]

I could see this as a prelude to the Angels signing A-Rod or trading for Tejada.

 

You think the Yankees deal with A-Rod will fall apart? Seems awfully far along in the process combined with such a huge contract makes it incredibly unlikely IMO that one side would walk away now.

 

I'm not believing a word of it until the deal becomes official.

[badnews]

I liked Guillen and Peralta's seasons better; but as for Cabrera as a player it doesn't tell us anything. His fielding has been up, down, and average, and in 2006 his clutch numbers were as bad as 2007's were good.

[Backtobanks]

While the sportswriters in the Tribune are gushing about this deal, I think the best part of it for the White Sox is getting money back in addition to Cabrera. The articles talk about "rebuilding", but I can't see how the WS can contend in 2008 when they have holes in LF, starting rotation (#3,#4,#5), and bullpen (3-4 spots) (assuming they will sign a CF). I think a better deal with the Angels would have been Garland for Aybar and Santana (assuming it would have been offered). The deal I suggested would really have them rebuilding for 2009 instead of pretending in 2008 with Thome and Dye getting older and pitchers like Danks, Floyd, and Gonzalez more experienced.

[jersey cubs fan]

I could see this as a prelude to the Angels signing A-Rod or trading for Tejada.

 

You think the Yankees deal with A-Rod will fall apart? Seems awfully far along in the process combined with such a huge contract makes it incredibly unlikely IMO that one side would walk away now.

 

ARod deals have been far along in the process before while still falling through. There's no good reason why it hasn't been signed yet.

[Electron Blue]

I could see this as a prelude to the Angels signing A-Rod or trading for Tejada.

 

You think the Yankees deal with A-Rod will fall apart? Seems awfully far along in the process combined with such a huge contract makes it incredibly unlikely IMO that one side would walk away now.

 

ARod deals have been far along in the process before while still falling through. There's no good reason why it hasn't been signed yet.

 

Indeed. Arod was traded to Boston. Then he wasn't.

[nilodnayr]

I could see this as a prelude to the Angels signing A-Rod or trading for Tejada.

 

You think the Yankees deal with A-Rod will fall apart? Seems awfully far along in the process combined with such a huge contract makes it incredibly unlikely IMO that one side would walk away now.

 

ARod deals have been far along in the process before while still falling through. There's no good reason why it hasn't been signed yet.

 

Indeed. Arod was traded to Boston. Then he wasn't.

 

ARod himself said yesterday that talks were in "the bottom of the 5th inning".

[wolf stansson]

ozzie's pissed because there's no room for eckstein on the roster now.

Me too.

[Derwood]

my guess is that the Sox will play O-Cab at 3rd and try to trade Crede

[nilodnayr]

ozzie's pissed because there's no room for eckstein on the roster now.

Me too.

 

At least you arent close to signing Kaz.

[Backtobanks]

my guess is that the Sox will play O-Cab at 3rd and try to trade Crede

 

There's no way that happens. Cabrera plays the most important position very effectively. They will try to trade Crede because of the uncertainty of his back and they have Fields to play 3B. Uribe will either move to 2B or be traded.