College Football - Week of 11/24

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Some final defensive numbers for Nebraska this year:

 

They gave up an average of...

477 yards per game which was 113th in the nation out of 119 teams.

232 rushing yards per game - 117th

245 passing yards per game - 83rd

37.9 points per game - 111th

 

Additionally they gave up...

49 points at home to USC

40 points at home to Ball State

41 points at Missouri

45 points at home to Oklahoma State

36 points at home to Texas A&M

76 points at Kansas (which was the most Nebraska has ever give up in a game in the history of its program)

65 points at Colorado

 

Their final 7 games they allowed an average of 46 points per game.

 

I love it.

 

It's actually a shade over 50 points per game, but yes, it's quite tremendous.

[Guest]

That wasn't the average of those seven games but rather in their final seven games - which included the final four games I listed as well as the 36 to aTm, 28 to Texas and 31 to Kansas State.

[Outshined_One]

I was talking with my dad about the national title picture a bit earlier and I thought up an interesting question. Let's say the following series of events happens:

 

1. Missouri beats Kansas by only a couple points in a very close game.

2. West Virginia drops one of their last two games.

3. Missouri loses in the Big 12 title game.

 

Ohio State at 11-1 would likely be No. 1 but who do you vote No. 2? Kansas will only have one loss but will not have even played in their conference championship game. So do you vote Kansas at 11-1 or one of the two loss teams?

 

I'd go with Oklahoma (ugh) or the ACC Champion (your call from Boston College, Virginia Tech, and Virginia).

 

If it's Hawaii, I think there would be riots.

[bukie]

I was talking with my dad about the national title picture a bit earlier and I thought up an interesting question. Let's say the following series of events happens:

 

1. Missouri beats Kansas by only a couple points in a very close game.

2. West Virginia drops one of their last two games.

3. Missouri loses in the Big 12 title game.

 

Ohio State at 11-1 would likely be No. 1 but who do you vote No. 2? Kansas will only have one loss but will not have even played in their conference championship game. So do you vote Kansas at 11-1 or one of the two loss teams?

 

I'd guess LSU only drops to, say, #4 with their loss today, with the Mizzou/Kansas winner #1, WVU #2, OSU #3. Georgia in at #5, with VT at 6, USC 7. No way Georgia will make the title game if they don't even play in the SEC championship, so then if LSU loses again, I wouldn't be surprised to see VT or USC jump Georgia to play in the title game.

[Guest]

I was talking with my dad about the national title picture a bit earlier and I thought up an interesting question. Let's say the following series of events happens:

 

1. Missouri beats Kansas by only a couple points in a very close game.

2. West Virginia drops one of their last two games.

3. Missouri loses in the Big 12 title game.

 

Ohio State at 11-1 would likely be No. 1 but who do you vote No. 2? Kansas will only have one loss but will not have even played in their conference championship game. So do you vote Kansas at 11-1 or one of the two loss teams?

 

I'd guess LSU only drops to, say, #4 with their loss today, with the Mizzou/Kansas winner #1, WVU #2, OSU #3. Georgia in at #5, with VT at 6, USC 7. No way Georgia will make the title game if they don't even play in the SEC championship, so then if LSU loses again, I wouldn't be surprised to see VT or USC jump Georgia to play in the title game.

 

You don't think the Kansas-Missouri loser stays in the top-7, especially if it's Kansas and they only have one loss?

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I was talking with my dad about the national title picture a bit earlier and I thought up an interesting question. Let's say the following series of events happens:

 

1. Missouri beats Kansas by only a couple points in a very close game.

2. West Virginia drops one of their last two games.

3. Missouri loses in the Big 12 title game.

 

Ohio State at 11-1 would likely be No. 1 but who do you vote No. 2? Kansas will only have one loss but will not have even played in their conference championship game. So do you vote Kansas at 11-1 or one of the two loss teams?

 

I'd guess LSU only drops to, say, #4 with their loss today, with the Mizzou/Kansas winner #1, WVU #2, OSU #3. Georgia in at #5, with VT at 6, USC 7. No way Georgia will make the title game if they don't even play in the SEC championship, so then if LSU loses again, I wouldn't be surprised to see VT or USC jump Georgia to play in the title game.

 

You don't think the Kansas-Missouri loser stays in the top-7, especially since it's Kansas and they only have one loss?

 

The reaon Kansas could fall so far is that to may pollsters, their schedule is suspect. Tomorrow's game is their chance to prove they are for real, but if they lose to Mizzou, then many will not see them as a "true" one loss team in the same way that no one takes undefeated Hawaii seriously.

[shnsajax]

I was talking with my dad about the national title picture a bit earlier and I thought up an interesting question. Let's say the following series of events happens:

 

1. Missouri beats Kansas by only a couple points in a very close game.

2. West Virginia drops one of their last two games.

3. Missouri loses in the Big 12 title game.

 

Ohio State at 11-1 would likely be No. 1 but who do you vote No. 2? Kansas will only have one loss but will not have even played in their conference championship game. So do you vote Kansas at 11-1 or one of the two loss teams?

 

I'd guess LSU only drops to, say, #4 with their loss today, with the Mizzou/Kansas winner #1, WVU #2, OSU #3. Georgia in at #5, with VT at 6, USC 7. No way Georgia will make the title game if they don't even play in the SEC championship, so then if LSU loses again, I wouldn't be surprised to see VT or USC jump Georgia to play in the title game.

 

I forgot Tennessee beat Georgia, that changes everything.

[Outshined_One]

I forgot Tennessee beat Georgia, that changes everything.

 

Oddly enough, they'd have one of the best claims in the nation to the #2 spot if they hadn't screwed up against Tennessee.

 

Virginia Tech probably would have the strongest case if they win out. Their only two losses have been a blowout to LSU and a close one to BC.

[Guest]

I forgot Tennessee beat Georgia, that changes everything.

 

Oddly enough, they'd have one of the best claims in the nation to the #2 spot if they hadn't screwed up against Tennessee.

 

Virginia Tech probably would have the strongest case if they win out. Their only two losses have been a blowout to LSU and a close one to BC.

 

To me, Virginia Tech getting killed by LSU really hurts their case. It wasn't just that they lost the game but the fashion in which they lost it.

 

I'd say LSU has a better case than Va Tech for that mainly for that reason but also because their two losses were by 6 and 2 and both came in triple overtime.

 

USC has a similar embarrassing loss like Va Tech - the one at home to Stanford. Even though Booty played most of the game with a broken finger on his throwing hand, it's still no excuse.

Georgia got drilled by Tennessee and might not even play in the SEC title game.

Arizona State got pounded at home by USC.

Oregon also has a pretty good case seeing as they're in the drivers seat for the Pac-10 title but I think they'll lose one of their final two games since Dixon is out.

Oklahoma also has a decent case but I don't think it's as good as LSU's.

[SouthSideRyan]

Without reading the thread from earlier today.

 

HAHAHAHHAHAA

[Keener98]

So with the LSU loss and Ohio State possible playing for the the title, does that push the Illini into the Rose Bowl?

[shnsajax]

So with the LSU loss and Ohio State possible playing for the the title, does that push the Illini into the Rose Bowl?

 

I don't think it is automatic, but they are helped by the committee possibly pushing the at large rankings back from 14 to 18. If it stays at 14 I don't think they get in.

[Guest]

So with the LSU loss and Ohio State possible playing for the the title, does that push the Illini into the Rose Bowl?

 

I don't think it is automatic, but they are helped by the committee possibly pushing the at large rankings back from 14 to 18. If it stays at 14 I don't think they get in.

 

They need to avoid a second big east or acc team getting into the top 14 and hawaii or boise state getting into the top 12. The texas loss today may hurt them.

[Guest]

Wow, really Boise State? The best play you can come up with on 3rd and 2 from your own 30 is a halfback pass? That's the best you can come up with when you're down 12 early in the fourth? That's crap.

[Guest]

Wow, really Boise State? The best play you can come up with on 3rd and 2 from your own 30 is a halfback pass? That's the best you can come up with when you're down 12 early in the fourth? That's crap.

 

 

no kidding.

[SouthSideRyan]

LSU has lost two games to teams with a combined 8 losses(probably 9 after tomorrow), whatever argument they have for their schedule causing their losses is gone. They're not even in the top 25 of SOS either.

 

Yeah but those teams only have 9 losses cause of the SEC!!! Cause Arkansas does have a win over South Carolina you know.(And a loss to Alabama who even Meph finally admitted was bad)

[Guest]

so Illinois fans cheer for:

Washington

Oklahoma

Virginia Tech

West Virginia

and everyone 8-12 in the BCS?

 

Shoud have just beaten Iowa.

[Mizzou]

I was talking with my dad about the national title picture a bit earlier and I thought up an interesting question. Let's say the following series of events happens:

 

1. Missouri beats Kansas by only a couple points in a very close game.

2. West Virginia drops one of their last two games.

3. Missouri loses in the Big 12 title game.

 

Ohio State at 11-1 would likely be No. 1 but who do you vote No. 2? Kansas will only have one loss but will not have even played in their conference championship game. So do you vote Kansas at 11-1 or one of the two loss teams?

There's no way that kU loses to MU and then suddenly appears higher in the rankings the following week, regardless of what MU does against Oklahoma.

[Guest]

I was talking with my dad about the national title picture a bit earlier and I thought up an interesting question. Let's say the following series of events happens:

 

1. Missouri beats Kansas by only a couple points in a very close game.

2. West Virginia drops one of their last two games.

3. Missouri loses in the Big 12 title game.

 

Ohio State at 11-1 would likely be No. 1 but who do you vote No. 2? Kansas will only have one loss but will not have even played in their conference championship game. So do you vote Kansas at 11-1 or one of the two loss teams?

There's no way that kU loses to MU and then suddenly appears higher in the rankings the following week, regardless of what MU does against Oklahoma.

 

Reread my post. I'm asking who would get ranked No. 2 after the regular season is over. And if Missouri beats KU but loses to OU again, they'll have 2 losses and Kansas will only have one. Kansas should be ranked ahead of Missouri then for the same reason that Missouri is ranked ahead of Oklahoma now even though Missouri lost to Oklahoma.

[CubColtPacer]

The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that LSU should not be given another shot even if the KU/Mizzou winner loses next week and WV loses today. Since the middle of the season, they lost to Kentucky, beat Auburn at the buzzer, had to come back late against Alabama, easy win against La Tech, struggled against Ole Miss, and lost to Arkansas. Even in the 2 games before that, they were in a tight battle with Tulane at halftime and they were a 4th down conversion away from losing to Florida. If it comes down to all flawed 2 loss teams, I think it should be the one who's best right now, and that's not LSU with how they've played their last 7-8 games.

[NewUserName]

The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that LSU should not be given another shot even if the KU/Mizzou winner loses next week and WV loses today. Since the middle of the season, they lost to Kentucky, beat Auburn at the buzzer, had to come back late against Alabama, easy win against La Tech, struggled against Ole Miss, and lost to Arkansas. Even in the 2 games before that, they were in a tight battle with Tulane at halftime and they were a 4th down conversion away from losing to Florida. If it comes down to all flawed 2 loss teams, I think it should be the one who's best right now, and that's not LSU with how they've played their last 7-8 games.

 

 

Its amazing how many times I have read that LSU would blow out (you put the name of a team here) in a National Title game. I havent seen evidence of LSU being great since the Va Tech game early in the season. Va Tech was not playing well then either. LSU's hype is based mostly on some people insisting that the SEC is in a different league than other conferences. I think they may be the best overall conference, but not so much better that their teams deserve the huge breaks in the polls that their teams are getting.

[TruffleShuffle]

hawai'i has a great offense and, for once, a pretty solid defense. hopefully they will finish off washington and then get to prove their worth in a bcs game.

[Derwood]

if LSU loses the SEC title game, you may see an LSU vs. Illinois matchup in the Capitol One Bowl

[CuseCubFan69]

Go WV!!!

 

What really hurts Kansas is playing just one above average team if they lose to Mizzou even though they only would have one loss. I'm curious if a 2 loss team could ever jump over WV, Mizzou or OSU if they all win out? The networks would freak out if there was a Mizzou/Kansas/WV Champ game.

 

I think that Cincy and SFlorida better move up the polls if they both win.

[SouthSideRyan]

if LSU loses the SEC title game, you may see an LSU vs. Illinois matchup in the Capitol One Bowl

 

Not if Va Tech and Washington get off their asses and do what's right.