Cardinals Pitcher Josh Hancock Dies in Car Crash

[Mizzou]

Having the weed in his car doesn't mean he had been smoking it recently.

It was a rental car, it couldn't have been in there too long. Unless Enterprise is offering new services.

[jersey cubs fan]

Going down the freeway at a good rate of speed. Drunk. Packing the pipe. The other hand holding the pipe. Then, the other reaching for a lighter. Then trying to light it.

 

It wouldn't happen while driving.

 

It's not like he was either motionless or going full speed. Is there not a light or two between the bar and the highway? Either way, there's a number of methods of smoking, and I have personally seen people use some of the more complicated methods, while driving.

[Soriano12]

Having the weed in his car doesn't mean he had been smoking it recently.

It was a rental car, it couldn't have been in there too long. Unless Enterprise is offering new services.

 

That would an interesting feature.

[jersey cubs fan]

He was talking on his cell phone when the accident happened.

 

Handsfree?

[SouthSideRyan]

Going down the freeway at a good rate of speed. Drunk. Packing the pipe. The other hand holding the pipe. Then, the other reaching for a lighter. Then trying to light it.

 

It wouldn't happen while driving.

 

With a 4th hand on the phone. Word around my office via St. Louis is that he was texting back and forth with one of the strippers from the club, with the last text not long before the crash.

[jersey cubs fan]

Having the weed in his car doesn't mean he had been smoking it recently.

It was a rental car, it couldn't have been in there too long. Unless Enterprise is offering new services.

 

That would an interesting feature.

 

"We'll pick you up."

[UK1679666180]

Going down the freeway at a good rate of speed. Drunk. Packing the pipe. The other hand holding the pipe. Then, the other reaching for a lighter. Then trying to light it.

 

It wouldn't happen while driving.

 

Whos to say the pipe wasnt packed already? Believe me, it can be done if the person wants it, and not that difficulty involved.

 

Why would someone leave a pipe packed for a period of time?

[Mizzou]

Going down the freeway at a good rate of speed. Drunk. Packing the pipe. The other hand holding the pipe. Then, the other reaching for a lighter. Then trying to light it.

 

It wouldn't happen while driving.

 

With a 4th hand on the phone. Word around my office via St. Louis is that he was texting back and forth with one of the strippers from the club, with the last text not long before the crash.

Haven't heard that one at all.

[Keener98]

Going down the freeway at a good rate of speed. Drunk. Packing the pipe. The other hand holding the pipe. Then, the other reaching for a lighter. Then trying to light it.

 

It wouldn't happen while driving.

 

Whos to say the pipe wasnt packed already? Believe me, it can be done if the person wants it, and not that difficulty involved.

 

Why would someone leave a pipe packed for a period of time?

 

Ive seen people take a hit off a pipe and lay it down go do something and come back to it and just light and take a hit.

[Chris]

Wouldn't the report have said texting and not talking?

[Yeti]

Going down the freeway at a good rate of speed. Drunk. Packing the pipe. The other hand holding the pipe. Then, the other reaching for a lighter. Then trying to light it.

 

It wouldn't happen while driving.

 

Whos to say the pipe wasnt packed already? Believe me, it can be done if the person wants it, and not that difficulty involved.

 

Why would someone leave a pipe packed for a period of time?

i think mine's packed right now and i havent used it in at least 18 hours

[Chocolate Milk]

Going down the freeway at a good rate of speed. Drunk. Packing the pipe. The other hand holding the pipe. Then, the other reaching for a lighter. Then trying to light it.

 

It wouldn't happen while driving.

 

Whos to say the pipe wasnt packed already? Believe me, it can be done if the person wants it, and not that difficulty involved.

 

Why would someone leave a pipe packed for a period of time?

 

So they don't have to do it later?

[Soriano12]

Going down the freeway at a good rate of speed. Drunk. Packing the pipe. The other hand holding the pipe. Then, the other reaching for a lighter. Then trying to light it.

 

It wouldn't happen while driving.

 

Whos to say the pipe wasnt packed already? Believe me, it can be done if the person wants it, and not that difficulty involved.

 

Why would someone leave a pipe packed for a period of time?

i think mine's packed right now and i havent used it in at least 18 hours

 

Did you bring enough for everyone? :wink:

[UK1679666180]

Going down the freeway at a good rate of speed. Drunk. Packing the pipe. The other hand holding the pipe. Then, the other reaching for a lighter. Then trying to light it.

 

It wouldn't happen while driving.

 

Whos to say the pipe wasnt packed already? Believe me, it can be done if the person wants it, and not that difficulty involved.

 

Why would someone leave a pipe packed for a period of time?

 

So they don't have to do it later?

 

There's a reason why it is sealed tightly.

[UK1679666180]

Going down the freeway at a good rate of speed. Drunk. Packing the pipe. The other hand holding the pipe. Then, the other reaching for a lighter. Then trying to light it.

 

It wouldn't happen while driving.

 

Whos to say the pipe wasnt packed already? Believe me, it can be done if the person wants it, and not that difficulty involved.

 

Why would someone leave a pipe packed for a period of time?

i think mine's packed right now and i havent used it in at least 18 hours

 

Slacker.

[Chocolate Milk]

Going down the freeway at a good rate of speed. Drunk. Packing the pipe. The other hand holding the pipe. Then, the other reaching for a lighter. Then trying to light it.

 

It wouldn't happen while driving.

 

Whos to say the pipe wasnt packed already? Believe me, it can be done if the person wants it, and not that difficulty involved.

 

Why would someone leave a pipe packed for a period of time?

 

So they don't have to do it later?

 

There's a reason why it is sealed tightly.

 

huh?

[98navigator]

Having the weed in his car doesn't mean he had been smoking it recently.

 

True, we don't need to jump to conclusions. But almost a quarter of weed and a pipe in a rented vehicle doesn't exactly scream innocence.

 

I think the fact that it was a rental vehicle increases the likeliness that he'd smoked recently (not that it matters because he was well over the legal limit already).

[SouthSideRyan]

Having the weed in his car doesn't mean he had been smoking it recently.

It was a rental car, it couldn't have been in there too long. Unless Enterprise is offering new services.

 

I'm not saying it's impossible or even improbable that he was high at the time, but the mere presence far from guarantees it. He had a lot of weed in there, doesn't it follow from everyone's logic that he must be smoking all of it on that car ride. He may have smoked it earlier in the night, he may have not wanted to keep it around his hotel/apartment, he may have just got it from somebody at Shannon's.

 

I'm not even one to say wait until everything is proven before assuming things, as I assumed he was drunk as soon as I heard the accident repot, but I'm not convinced he was high.

[Mizzou]

Having the weed in his car doesn't mean he had been smoking it recently.

It was a rental car, it couldn't have been in there too long. Unless Enterprise is offering new services.

 

I'm not saying it's impossible or even improbable that he was high at the time, but the mere presence far from guarantees it. He had a lot of weed in there, doesn't it follow from everyone's logic that he must be smoking all of it on that car ride. He may have smoked it earlier in the night, he may have not wanted to keep it around his hotel/apartment, he may have just got it from somebody at Shannon's.

 

I'm not even one to say wait until everything is proven before assuming things, as I assumed he was drunk as soon as I heard the accident repot, but I'm not convinced he was high.

I don't think it makes a difference either way if he was high.

[Chocolate Milk]

Having the weed in his car doesn't mean he had been smoking it recently.

It was a rental car, it couldn't have been in there too long. Unless Enterprise is offering new services.

 

I'm not saying it's impossible or even improbable that he was high at the time, but the mere presence far from guarantees it. He had a lot of weed in there, doesn't it follow from everyone's logic that he must be smoking all of it on that car ride. He may have smoked it earlier in the night, he may have not wanted to keep it around his hotel/apartment, he may have just got it from somebody at Shannon's.

 

I'm not even one to say wait until everything is proven before assuming things, as I assumed he was drunk as soon as I heard the accident repot, but I'm not convinced he was high.

I don't think it makes a difference either way if he was high.

 

Me either. He was already inebriated enough to get into a fatal accident. Just another item in a list of bad decisions.

[UK1679666180]

Having the weed in his car doesn't mean he had been smoking it recently.

It was a rental car, it couldn't have been in there too long. Unless Enterprise is offering new services.

 

I'm not saying it's impossible or even improbable that he was high at the time, but the mere presence far from guarantees it. He had a lot of weed in there, doesn't it follow from everyone's logic that he must be smoking all of it on that car ride. He may have smoked it earlier in the night, he may have not wanted to keep it around his hotel/apartment, he may have just got it from somebody at Shannon's.

 

I'm not even one to say wait until everything is proven before assuming things, as I assumed he was drunk as soon as I heard the accident repot, but I'm not convinced he was high.

I don't think it makes a difference either way if he was high.

 

He'd probably still be alive if he was only "high".

[CUBZ99]

Having the weed in his car doesn't mean he had been smoking it recently.

It was a rental car, it couldn't have been in there too long. Unless Enterprise is offering new services.

 

I'm not saying it's impossible or even improbable that he was high at the time, but the mere presence far from guarantees it. He had a lot of weed in there, doesn't it follow from everyone's logic that he must be smoking all of it on that car ride. He may have smoked it earlier in the night, he may have not wanted to keep it around his hotel/apartment, he may have just got it from somebody at Shannon's.

 

I'm not even one to say wait until everything is proven before assuming things, as I assumed he was drunk as soon as I heard the accident repot, but I'm not convinced he was high.

I don't think it makes a difference either way if he was high.

 

He'd probably still be alive if he was only "high".

 

Didn't the police find weed in Kile's hotel room also? Not that it is relevant to the Hancock discussion, but is weed widely used by baseball players? and is it one of the drugs they test for during the season?

[The Voice of Reason]

In a rental car (due to a crash three days before), High, twice the legal alcohol limit and talking on a cell phone. Thank God this Moron didn't hit any innocent people.

 

St. Louis medical examiner Michael Graham said Hancock's blood-alcohol level was 0.157, nearly twice Missouri's legal limit of 0.08.

 

Mokwa said cell phone records showed Hancock was speaking with a female acquaintance at about the time of the accident. Mokwa said the conversation ended abruptly, presumably when the accident occurred.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2860122

[bcruise]

wow, can't really feel sorry for the guy now, at least he didn't take anyone else with him.

 

I feel similar, but I definitely still feel for the Cards - they lost a teammate and a friend. It certainly explains the mental mistakes made in the Brewers series - their minds are clearly not on baseball right now - especially if some of them thought there was something they could have done to prevent this tragedy.

[C.C.]

In a rental car (due to a crash three days before), High, twice the legal alcohol limit and talking on a cell phone. Thank God this Moron didn't hit any innocent people.

 

St. Louis medical examiner Michael Graham said Hancock's blood-alcohol level was 0.157, nearly twice Missouri's legal limit of 0.08.

 

Mokwa said cell phone records showed Hancock was speaking with a female acquaintance at about the time of the accident. Mokwa said the conversation ended abruptly, presumably when the accident occurred.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2860122

 

I'm amazed these people don't just call a cab?