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Cardinals Pitcher Josh Hancock Dies in Car Crash

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These developments can't be helpful to Dean's lawsuit.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2888691

 

ST. LOUIS -- A state investigation found no evidence that workers at Mike Shannon's restaurant knew Josh Hancock was drunk when they served the St. Louis Cardinals pitcher alcohol in the hours prior to his fatal accident.

 

Peter Lobdell, supervisor of the state Division of Alcohol and Tobacco Control, said at a news conference Thursday that investigators interviewed four employees of the restaurant and two of Hancock's teammates who were with him that night.

 

"The investigators determined Hancock was drinking in moderation, socializing with teammates and friends and employees of Shannon's," Lobdell said. "He did not appear to be intoxicated to any patrons or employees who came forward to be interviewed."

 

The suit claims Mike Shannon's workers kept providing drinks to Hancock long after it was clear he was intoxicated.

 

I'm not disputing whether or not he was visibly drunk, but I wonder what the people who didn't come forward to be interviewed thought. I mean, if you were a regular at Shannon's and you thought the suit was BS, and it wasn't obvious that Hancock was plastered, wouldn't you come forward to tell the police that?

Great catch.

 

I agree that this is a major setback for the plaintiffs, but the whole "who came forward to be interviewed" part puts a huge asterisk on the whole deal.

There actually was a couple that observed Hancock in Shannons that night. They were interviewed by the STL media the day after the accident and they said he was visibly drunk. However, it makes no difference whether anyone thought he was visibly drunk. Missouri does not even permit such a suit if the drinker is 21 or older. The only exception is if if the liquor consumption is "involuntary" and that is what the suit is claiming. I still think that is a very weak argument.

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These developments can't be helpful to Dean's lawsuit.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2888691

 

ST. LOUIS -- A state investigation found no evidence that workers at Mike Shannon's restaurant knew Josh Hancock was drunk when they served the St. Louis Cardinals pitcher alcohol in the hours prior to his fatal accident.

 

Peter Lobdell, supervisor of the state Division of Alcohol and Tobacco Control, said at a news conference Thursday that investigators interviewed four employees of the restaurant and two of Hancock's teammates who were with him that night.

 

"The investigators determined Hancock was drinking in moderation, socializing with teammates and friends and employees of Shannon's," Lobdell said. "He did not appear to be intoxicated to any patrons or employees who came forward to be interviewed."

 

The suit claims Mike Shannon's workers kept providing drinks to Hancock long after it was clear he was intoxicated.

 

I'm not disputing whether or not he was visibly drunk, but I wonder what the people who didn't come forward to be interviewed thought. I mean, if you were a regular at Shannon's and you thought the suit was BS, and it wasn't obvious that Hancock was plastered, wouldn't you come forward to tell the police that?

Great catch.

 

I agree that this is a major setback for the plaintiffs, but the whole "who came forward to be interviewed" part puts a huge asterisk on the whole deal.

There actually was a couple that observed Hancock in Shannons that night. They were interviewed by the STL media the day after the accident and they said he was visibly drunk. However, it makes no difference whether anyone thought he was visibly drunk. Missouri does not even permit such a suit if the drinker is 21 or older. The only exception is if if the liquor consumption is "involuntary" and that is what the suit is claiming. I still think that is a very weak argument.

 

Extremely weak.

 

Unless they tied him up, put a funnel in his mouth and poured vodka down his throat, it was in no way "involuntary."

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Dear lord is this thread still going? Even Cards fans have moved on...

 

CFICT, any idea what the bottle in your avatar is from?

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Did I miss whether or not Hancock's dad is suing the estate of President Eisenhower since he was instrumental in interstate highways being created?

 

Plus, who invented cement and made it so hard? I'm sure they could also be sued.

 

:roll:

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Did I miss whether or not Hancock's dad is suing the estate of President Eisenhower since he was instrumental in interstate highways being created?

 

Plus, who invented cement and made it so hard? I'm sure they could also be sued.

 

:roll:

 

And who ended prohibition? No alcohol and none of this would have happened!

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Updating with news on the story seems relevant, making the same jokes that were used up well over a month ago, not so much.

 

Sorry, Dad!

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Good for the tow truck driver.

 

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/7F7E7FDDEBB7DD6686257316005DDB92?OpenDocument

 

Countersuit against Hancock estate progresses

 

CLAYTON -- The attorney for the tow truck driver sued in the wrongful death case of Josh Hancock said Thursday his client intends to move forward with a countersuit against the estate of the late Cardinals pitcher.

Robert Pedroli, the attorney for tow truck driver Jacob Hargrove, said the

Hancock family has not responded to his requests to drop the suit that claims Hargrove and others were liable for Hancock's death. Pedroli had given the Hancocks 21 days to dismiss the suit.

 

Hargrove, who did not attend the news conference, had pulled his flatbed truck behind a stalled car on westbound Highway 40 on April 29 when Hancock slammed into the back of the truck. Hancock, police said, was speeding, talking on a cell phone and had a blood-alcohol level nearly twice the legal limit had the time of the crash.

 

Hargrove had activated his lights upon pulling his truck behind the stranded motorist. Hargrove, who Pedroli said suffered a concussion and post-traumatic stress syndrome in the crash, continues to work as a tow truck driver. "I believe it's a case that should never have been filed in the first place," Pedroli said, when asked if the Hancock family had been given enough time to drop the suit. "Fifteen minutes would have been long enough."

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