Another ex-Cub attempting a comeback

[Post Count Padder]

This time, its 40 year old Dave Veres:

 

Dave Veres-R- Rockies Jan. 4 - 12:04 pm et

 

 

Rockies signed RHP Dave Veres to a minor league contract and invited him to spring training.

 

It'd be a great story if the 40-year-old Veres could make it back to the majors after his replacement surgery. The former Rockies' closer last pitched in the majors in 2003 and has been out of baseball entirely the last two years. There's little chance of him winning a job out of spring training.

Source: Rocky Mountain News

 

[FergieJ31]

This time, its 40 year old Dave Veres:

 

Dave Veres-R- Rockies Jan. 4 - 12:04 pm et

 

 

Rockies signed RHP Dave Veres to a minor league contract and invited him to spring training.

 

It'd be a great story if the 40-year-old Veres could make it back to the majors after his replacement surgery. The former Rockies' closer last pitched in the majors in 2003 and has been out of baseball entirely the last two years. There's little chance of him winning a job out of spring training.

Source: Rocky Mountain News

 

 

Painful. The last pitch in the majors he threw was a two-run double to AGonz in game 7 that made the game 9-5 (AGonz was thrown out at third for the third out)

[rawaction]

Man, Veres could only throw 86 when he last pitched....2 years older...he may not hit 80.

[mg420]

Man, Veres could only throw 86 when he last pitched....2 years older...he may not hit 80.

 

i'm not saying veres can do it but doug jones had a pretty good career as a closer throwing 80 mph sinkers & a palm ball. location & movement are much more critical than just raw velocity - just ask greg maddux.

[abuck1220]

Man, Veres could only throw 86 when he last pitched....2 years older...he may not hit 80.

 

i'm not saying veres can do it but doug jones had a pretty good career as a closer throwing 80 mph sinkers & a palm ball. location & movement are much more critical than just raw velocity - just ask greg maddux.

 

and then ask the thousands upon thousands of other guys who couldn't make it because they lacked velocity.

 

people don't seem to understand that maddux is the exception, not the rule. there are not many successful pitchers throwing 84.

[UMFan83]

Didn't Veres give up the HR to Lowell in game 1 too? Or was the Guthrie?

[mg420]

Man, Veres could only throw 86 when he last pitched....2 years older...he may not hit 80.

 

i'm not saying veres can do it but doug jones had a pretty good career as a closer throwing 80 mph sinkers & a palm ball. location & movement are much more critical than just raw velocity - just ask greg maddux.

 

and then ask the thousands upon thousands of other guys who couldn't make it because they lacked velocity.

 

people don't seem to understand that maddux is the exception, not the rule. there are not many successful pitchers throwing 84.

 

maybe thats because they pitch like they are throwing 94 instead of 84. knowing how to pitch and locate pitches is often lost in the world of the triple digit speed gun readings but there would be many more successful pitchers imo if they would learn (or be taught?) that velocity is not the major factor in getting batters out.

[CUBBIEblue16]

Didn't Veres give up the HR to Lowell in game 1 too? Or was the Guthrie?

 

Guthrie

[da bears]

Didn't Veres give up the HR to Lowell in game 1 too? Or was the Guthrie?

 

Guthrie

 

Ill never forget that bum. Still can't believe they lost that game.

[KingCubsFan]

Man, Veres could only throw 86 when he last pitched....2 years older...he may not hit 80.

 

i'm not saying veres can do it but doug jones had a pretty good career as a closer throwing 80 mph sinkers & a palm ball. location & movement are much more critical than just raw velocity - just ask greg maddux.

Maddux threw harder than 84 in his prime, he just didn't throw 95+ like most great pitchers

[Jehrico]

Man, Veres could only throw 86 when he last pitched....2 years older...he may not hit 80.

 

i'm not saying veres can do it but doug jones had a pretty good career as a closer throwing 80 mph sinkers & a palm ball. location & movement are much more critical than just raw velocity - just ask greg maddux.

 

and then ask the thousands upon thousands of other guys who couldn't make it because they lacked velocity.

 

people don't seem to understand that maddux is the exception, not the rule. there are not many successful pitchers throwing 84.

 

Also, re Veres, he didn't have impeccable control or outstanding movement before missing two seasons and undergoing surgery, so it's highly doubtful he'd have good enough of control or movement to compensate for his lack of velocity.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I remember watching big Dave being lit up in Des Moines in 03.

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Dave Veres-R- Rockies Jan. 4 - 12:04 pm et

 

 

Rockies signed RHP Dave Veres to a minor league contract and invited him to spring training.

 

It'd be a great story if the 40-year-old Veres could make it back to the majors after his replacement surgery. The former Rockies' closer last pitched in the majors in 2003 and has been out of baseball entirely the last two years. There's little chance of him winning a job out of spring training.

Source: Rocky Mountain News

 

Ooh, replacement surgery, sounds to me close enough to a brutal procedure for getting undeserving pitchers off a roster that I like it!

[SouthSideRyan]

Didn't Veres give up the HR to Lowell in game 1 too? Or was the Guthrie?

 

Guthrie

 

And why was it Guthrie??? Because Dusty didn't want to bring in the righty and have Lenny Harris pinch hit.

[sethuel1]

I think his comeback depends on what they replaced.

[OleMissCub]

The names Dave Veres, Guthrie, and Lenny Harris, along with a mention of game 6 has made a terrible cocktail in my stomach, and I seriously want to puke now.

 

I don't think i'll ever recover from all of that.

[AllStarMe]

I think his comeback depends on what they replaced.

If they replaced him with a better pitcher he'd probably stand a decent chance.