Lou Piniella the New Cubs Manager

[C.C.]

I think he's coming here because he thinks he can win. Why else would he come here?

 

Perhaps because he's old, it might be his last chance to manager, the Yankees job is unavailable, SF is too far and the Cubs spend a lot of money on payroll and employ lots of veterans. Lots of managers think payroll and veterans are the key to winning.

 

 

Aren't they?

[XZero771679666304]

I think he's coming here because he thinks he can win. Why else would he come here?

 

Perhaps because he's old, it might be his last chance to manager, the Yankees job is unavailable, SF is too far and the Cubs spend a lot of money on payroll and employ lots of veterans. Lots of managers think payroll and veterans are the key to winning.

 

 

Aren't they?

 

It hasn't helped us the past 3 seasons, has it? TALENT and payroll, maybe.

[C.C.]

I think he's coming here because he thinks he can win. Why else would he come here?

 

Perhaps because he's old, it might be his last chance to manager, the Yankees job is unavailable, SF is too far and the Cubs spend a lot of money on payroll and employ lots of veterans. Lots of managers think payroll and veterans are the key to winning.

 

 

Aren't they?

 

It hasn't helped us the past 3 seasons, has it? TALENT and payroll, maybe.

 

I was just editing my post. I agree Talent wins.

[ZMovieman]

It's pretty hard to hold Tampa against Lou. No one is going to win there.

 

Whatever gives you that idea ???

 

          1876 thru 2006                            World Series
team                        W       L     pct    PA     W     L

New York Yankees         9291    7094   0.567    46    26    13
San Francisco Giants    10117    8632   0.540    22     5    12
Los Angeles Dodgers      9391    8531   0.524    24     6    12
Boston Red Sox           8444    7960   0.515    17     6     4
Chicago Cubs             9901    9387   0.513    14     2     8
Cleveland Indians        8393    8025   0.511     9     2     3
St. Louis Cardinals      8984    8679   0.509    23     9     7
Pittsburgh Pirates       9327    8987   0.509    14     5     2
Detroit Tigers           8316    8117   0.506    12     4     5
Chicago White Sox        8293    8092   0.506     8     3     2
Cincinnati Reds          9196    9107   0.502    12     5     4
Arizona Diamondbacks      728     730   0.499     3     1     0
Atlanta Braves           9612    9639   0.499    20     3     6
Houston Astros           3576    3586   0.499     9     0     1
Toronto Blue Jays        2345    2379   0.496     5     2     0
Anaheim Angels           3596    3735   0.491     6     1     0
Kansas City Royals       2924    3081   0.487     7     1     1
Oakland A's              7925    8423   0.485    23     9     5
Washington Nationals     2907    3115   0.483     1     0     0
Minnesota Twins          7884    8515   0.481    12     3     3
New York Mets            3408    3740   0.477     7     2     2
Baltimore Orioles        7810    8559   0.477    11     3     4
Florida Marlins          1041    1160   0.473     2     2     0
Milwaukee Brewers        2836    3187   0.471     2     0     1
Seattle Mariners         2227    2508   0.470     4     0     0
Texas Rangers            3416    3889   0.468     3     0     0
Philadelphia Phillies    8734    9967   0.467     9     1     4
Colorado Rockies         1025    1180   0.465     1     0     0
San Diego Padres         2781    3248   0.461     5     0     2
Tampa Bay Devilrays       579     876   0.398     0     0     0

 

I feel stupid for just noticing this, because I knew the Yankees had 26 World Series championships, but I had forgotten that no other team was even in double digits. My hatred for them just grew...

[Southpaw191679666239]

Trying to stick to the topic... who knew lo' those many years ago, when I watched The Baseball Bunch as a kid, that one of the guests would be the future Cubs manager?

 

I wonder what that VHS tape would go for nowadays? *goes to search through tape collection* :lol:

[Fred Hornkohl]

 

I feel stupid for just noticing this, because I knew the Yankees had 26 World Series championships, but I had forgotten that no other team was even in double digits. My hatred for them just grew...

 

Did ya notice that even after 60 years of futility, the CUBS still have the 5th best winning percentage in the game ???

[goonys evil twin]

I think he's coming here because he thinks he can win. Why else would he come here?

 

Perhaps because he's old, it might be his last chance to manager, the Yankees job is unavailable, SF is too far and the Cubs spend a lot of money on payroll and employ lots of veterans. Lots of managers think payroll and veterans are the key to winning.

 

So he's coming here because he thinks he can win.

 

I think it's one of many factors. He thinks he can win, location obviously played a major role.

[Sweet Swinging Billy]

I'll believe it when it's made official. ESPN 1000 is an awful radio station, they have no credability with me. What are they reporting on the Score? Now that's a good station. If, it's true and Sweet Lou has the job, I say fire Hendry right now! Joe Girardi is the right choice.

[A New Era]

I'll believe it when it's made official. ESPN 1000 is an awful radio station, they have no credability with me. What are they reporting on the Score? Now that's a good station. If, it's true and Sweet Lou has the job, I say fire Hendry right now! Joe Girardi is the right choice.

 

Check cubs.com if you want official. It's on there too.

[Magnetic Curses]

 

I would rather have Soriano leading off. Soriano is more of a threat to steal a base than Murton is. Murton would benefit being in the 2 spot, because he has the ability to hit the ball anywhere on the field, and he makes contract the majority of the time.

 

wow, none of those things are particularly important for a 1 or 2 hitter.

 

Are you kidding me? Have you watched the Dertroit Tigers? Granderson gets on base, then Polanco moves him over with a bunt, or the hit and run. Works out pretty well for them. Whitesox used it in 05 also.

 

no, you're the one that's kidding yourself.

 

i don't understand why some people think bunting is so important for a #2 hitter. #2 hitters should be hitters that you don't need to bunt with. in fact, the entire concept of putting a hitter whom you have so little faith in getting a hit with at the top of your batting order is foreign to me.

 

you don't ask good hitters to bunt, when you do, you waste them.

 

the only hitter that you should ever even think about sacrificing a man over with is the pitcher.......or neifi perez, and there's no excuse for him being in a major league lineup everyday, anyway.

[ltb]

i am disgusted by jim hendry

 

seriously

lou piniella for 3 years, and bringing back rothschild?

mark prior isn't going to pitch again until 2009.

[oldcubsfan]

For what it's worth, Steve Stone thought it was a terrific hire. He said he thinks Lou is the best talent evaluator as a manager that he knows. He doesn't think Joe is ready now, but will be down the road.

The score website might have it now, but I doubt it.

[CuseCubFan69]

For what it's worth, Steve Stone thought it was a terrific hire. He said he thinks Lou is the best talent evaluator as a manager that he knows. He doesn't think Joe is ready now, but will be down the road.

The score website might have it now, but I doubt it.

 

Too bad Lou didn't hire Joe to be his bench coach.

[rocket]

so jim OFFICIALLY is copying the tigers now

 

whatever. i'm more interested in the players that come over. we could have done better for a manager though.

[ronsanto10]

i think this was posted yesterday........ :wink:

 

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[Magnetic Curses]

For what it's worth, Steve Stone thought it was a terrific hire. He said he thinks Lou is the best talent evaluator as a manager that he knows. He doesn't think Joe is ready now, but will be down the road.

The score website might have it now, but I doubt it.

 

Too bad Lou didn't hire Joe to be his bench coach.

 

i think steve stone likes to say things.

[J.R.]

What are they reporting on the Score? Now that's a good station.

 

QFLOL

[UK1679666180]

For what it's worth, Steve Stone thought it was a terrific hire. He said he thinks Lou is the best talent evaluator as a manager that he knows. He doesn't think Joe is ready now, but will be down the road.

The score website might have it now, but I doubt it.

 

Too bad Lou didn't hire Joe to be his bench coach.

 

The best part of the hire is the bench coach-McLaren.

 

This might be the closest to having McLaren as manager as I expect Piniella to get ejected and suspended at various points during the next 3 years.

 

As much as Lou gets credit for being a great in-game manager, McLaren is usually the one that pulls those strings.

 

Lou is known as an aggressive manager on the bases.

[Omar]

The one thing I'm wondering, what does Lou think of .obp?

[Soriano12]

I wondered when I saw the "Reign of Terror" graphic if it originated here. Good work on that Jon M. Davis. Here's a somewhat random comment from redsoxnation.net on Lou:

 

Not that it would've lasted anyway, but say goodbye to what's left of Mark Prior's arm...

 

I said goodbye to that along time ago.

[KingCubsFan]

The one thing I'm wondering, what does Lou think of .obp?

As long as he's never uttered the phrase "Walks clog the bases" I think he's an upgrade over Dusty in that area

[UK1679666180]

The one thing I'm wondering, what does Lou think of .obp?

 

Probably higher than Baker, but not where it should be if it's a weakness that needs to improve.

[Keener98]

For what it's worth, Steve Stone thought it was a terrific hire. He said he thinks Lou is the best talent evaluator as a manager that he knows. He doesn't think Joe is ready now, but will be down the road.

The score website might have it now, but I doubt it.

 

Too bad Lou didn't hire Joe to be his bench coach.

 

The best part of the hire is the bench coach-McLaren.

 

This might be the closest to having McLaren as manager as I expect Piniella to get ejected and suspended at various points during the next 3 years.

 

As much as Lou gets credit for being a great in-game manager, McLaren is usually the one that pulls those strings.

 

Lou is known as an aggressive manager on the bases.

 

Where is McLaren from? I have never heard his name mentioned much for managers positions, why? Do we have any possibilities for the hitting coach and such? I have heard Chris Chambliss name mentioned as a possibility. Why is he a good choice?

[RynoRules]

so jim OFFICIALLY is copying the tigers now

 

whatever. i'm more interested in the players that come over. we could have done better for a manager though.

 

Kinda pinning my hopes on this too. I really wanted Bochy. Oh well.

 

See my sig.

[abuck1220]

For what it's worth, Steve Stone thought it was a terrific hire. He said he thinks Lou is the best talent evaluator as a manager that he knows. He doesn't think Joe is ready now, but will be down the road.

The score website might have it now, but I doubt it.

 

if you like piniella over girardi, fine. but to say that girardi isn't ready is just idiotic. the marlins put up a better record than the cubs with far less talent and fraction of the payroll. i don't know why the cubs' job is held in such high regard...the franchise is a joke. if he was ready to win 80 games with the marlins, he sure as hell is ready to win 75 with the cubs.

 

also, girardi did a heck of a lot more with the marlins than piniella ever did w/ the rays. and yes, i know the marlins were more talented than the drays, but i don't see any real evidence that piniella is any more 'ready' than girardi.