Lou Piniella the New Cubs Manager

[XZero771679666304]

 

I would rather have Soriano leading off. Soriano is more of a threat to steal a base than Murton is. Murton would benefit being in the 2 spot, because he has the ability to hit the ball anywhere on the field, and he makes contract the majority of the time.

 

wow, none of those things are particularly important for a 1 or 2 hitter.

 

Are you kidding me? Have you watched the Dertroit Tigers? Granderson gets on base, then Polanco moves him over with a bunt, or the hit and run. Works out pretty well for them. Whitesox used it in 05 also.

 

There is what is important. I will also say it is important for the number 2 hitter to make contact, but hitting the ball all over the field and stealing bases aren't critical for top of the order hitters.

[Jon]

 

I would rather have Soriano leading off. Soriano is more of a threat to steal a base than Murton is. Murton would benefit being in the 2 spot, because he has the ability to hit the ball anywhere on the field, and he makes contract the majority of the time.

 

wow, none of those things are particularly important for a 1 or 2 hitter.

 

Are you kidding me? Have you watched the Dertroit Tigers? Granderson gets on base, then Polanco moves him over with a bunt, or the hit and run. Works out pretty well for them. Whitesox used it in 05 also.

Detroit's offense is pretty average. They're a slugging team with little OBP. The White Sox offense from last year was below average and also a low OBP team.

[XZero771679666304]

 

I would rather have Soriano leading off. Soriano is more of a threat to steal a base than Murton is. Murton would benefit being in the 2 spot, because he has the ability to hit the ball anywhere on the field, and he makes contract the majority of the time.

 

wow, none of those things are particularly important for a 1 or 2 hitter.

 

Are you kidding me? Have you watched the Dertroit Tigers? Granderson gets on base, then Polanco moves him over with a bunt, or the hit and run. Works out pretty well for them. Whitesox used it in 05 also.

 

The White Sox offense was below average. The reason they weren't completely pathetic was because both teams had the ability to hit 200 home runs. I'd be willing to bet that the White Sox and Tigers would've scored more runs if they didn't get CS or give up outs in place of trying to get on base or something similar.

 

Exactly. The whole White Sox/Small ball thing was a total crock. The 2005 Sox, like the 2006 version, was a slugging bunch that won because of their pitching.

[Andy]

Where's cheapseats to bring us this:

 

Lou should bring FIRE! and INTENSITY!

[Burtonbell]

I would rather see the Cubs add Suppan to their rotation.

 

Is he a FA after this season?

[NewUserName]

I was at first against the hiring of Lou Piniella. I still think that he isnt that great of a hire. However the reason that I was against him was that he got a reputation of being poor with young players. I think however he may have been labeled that way because of his tenure in Tampa Bay. He certainly shouldnt be in charge of team that is filled with young players however he has given quite a few players their first significant playing time in the Major leagues. I wouldnt say that young players are his first choice but he certainly has a lot better track record than Dusty.

[XZero771679666304]

I was at first against the hiring of Lou Piniella. I still think that he isnt that great of a hire. However the reason that I was against him was that he got a reputation of being poor with young players. I think however he may have been labeled that way because of his tenure in Tampa Bay. He certainly shouldnt be in charge of team that is filled with young players however he has given quite a few players their first significant playing time in the Major leagues. I wouldnt say that young players are his first choice but he certainly has a lot better track record than Dusty.

 

I think he'll be okay as long as he has a mix of young/veteran players, not a whole roster of young players like he did in Tampa.

[goonys evil twin]

 

I would rather have Soriano leading off. Soriano is more of a threat to steal a base than Murton is. Murton would benefit being in the 2 spot, because he has the ability to hit the ball anywhere on the field, and he makes contract the majority of the time.

 

wow, none of those things are particularly important for a 1 or 2 hitter.

 

Are you kidding me? Have you watched the Dertroit Tigers? Granderson gets on base, then Polanco moves him over with a bunt, or the hit and run. Works out pretty well for them. Whitesox used it in 05 also.

 

So you think their offense is based on Polanco moving Granderson over?

 

First off, their success is based on league leading pitching. Their offensive success is based on very high HR totals.

[A New Era]

Where's cheapseats to bring us this:

 

Lou should bring FIRE! and INTENSITY!

 

Does my avatar count?

[Chocolate Milk]

It's pretty hard to hold Tampa against Lou. No one is going to win there.

[goonys evil twin]

It's pretty hard to hold Tampa against Lou. No one is going to win there.

 

Can we hold his decision making ability against him, since he chose to go there? :D

[USSoccer]

Jim Hendry: Overpaying for Talent since 2007.

 

I hope that's your new quote in 2007.

 

Lets hope

[ThePenguin11]

It's pretty hard to hold Tampa against Lou. No one is going to win there.

 

Can we hold his decision making ability against him, since he chose to go there? :D

 

He chose Tampa because he and his family live there. Not because it was an ideal winning situation.

[cjbucks]

 

I would rather have Soriano leading off. Soriano is more of a threat to steal a base than Murton is. Murton would benefit being in the 2 spot, because he has the ability to hit the ball anywhere on the field, and he makes contract the majority of the time.

 

wow, none of those things are particularly important for a 1 or 2 hitter.

 

Are you kidding me? Have you watched the Dertroit Tigers? Granderson gets on base, then Polanco moves him over with a bunt, or the hit and run. Works out pretty well for them. Whitesox used it in 05 also.

 

So you think their offense is based on Polanco moving Granderson over?

 

First off, their success is based on league leading pitching. Their offensive success is based on very high HR totals.

 

Granderson has a 335 obp - JP has as 330 obp. According to that theory we were just 1 good bunter away from the playoffs! Rats

[Fred Hornkohl]

It's pretty hard to hold Tampa against Lou. No one is going to win there.

 

Whatever gives you that idea ???

 

          1876 thru 2006                            World Series
team                        W       L     pct    PA     W     L

New York Yankees         9291    7094   0.567    46    26    13
San Francisco Giants    10117    8632   0.540    22     5    12
Los Angeles Dodgers      9391    8531   0.524    24     6    12
Boston Red Sox           8444    7960   0.515    17     6     4
Chicago Cubs             9901    9387   0.513    14     2     8
Cleveland Indians        8393    8025   0.511     9     2     3
St. Louis Cardinals      8984    8679   0.509    23     9     7
Pittsburgh Pirates       9327    8987   0.509    14     5     2
Detroit Tigers           8316    8117   0.506    12     4     5
Chicago White Sox        8293    8092   0.506     8     3     2
Cincinnati Reds          9196    9107   0.502    12     5     4
Arizona Diamondbacks      728     730   0.499     3     1     0
Atlanta Braves           9612    9639   0.499    20     3     6
Houston Astros           3576    3586   0.499     9     0     1
Toronto Blue Jays        2345    2379   0.496     5     2     0
Anaheim Angels           3596    3735   0.491     6     1     0
Kansas City Royals       2924    3081   0.487     7     1     1
Oakland A's              7925    8423   0.485    23     9     5
Washington Nationals     2907    3115   0.483     1     0     0
Minnesota Twins          7884    8515   0.481    12     3     3
New York Mets            3408    3740   0.477     7     2     2
Baltimore Orioles        7810    8559   0.477    11     3     4
Florida Marlins          1041    1160   0.473     2     2     0
Milwaukee Brewers        2836    3187   0.471     2     0     1
Seattle Mariners         2227    2508   0.470     4     0     0
Texas Rangers            3416    3889   0.468     3     0     0
Philadelphia Phillies    8734    9967   0.467     9     1     4
Colorado Rockies         1025    1180   0.465     1     0     0
San Diego Padres         2781    3248   0.461     5     0     2
Tampa Bay Devilrays       579     876   0.398     0     0     0

[CUBZ99]

So is Larry Rothschild back or not?

[abuck1220]

 

I would rather have Soriano leading off. Soriano is more of a threat to steal a base than Murton is. Murton would benefit being in the 2 spot, because he has the ability to hit the ball anywhere on the field, and he makes contract the majority of the time.

 

wow, none of those things are particularly important for a 1 or 2 hitter.

 

Are you kidding me? Have you watched the Dertroit Tigers? Granderson gets on base, then Polanco moves him over with a bunt, or the hit and run. Works out pretty well for them. Whitesox used it in 05 also.

 

the 'gets on base' part is the important part.

 

and for the 8 billionth time, the white sox won in '05 because they jacked a ton of homers and had remarkable pitching.

[OnTheBeach]

I wondered when I saw the "Reign of Terror" graphic if it originated here. Good work on that Jon M. Davis. Here's a somewhat random comment from redsoxnation.net on Lou:

 

Not that it would've lasted anyway, but say goodbye to what's left of Mark Prior's arm...

[Balsa]

I would rather see the Cubs add Suppan to their rotation.

What? The guy with a career 4.60 ERA? Really?

[goonys evil twin]

It's pretty hard to hold Tampa against Lou. No one is going to win there.

 

Can we hold his decision making ability against him, since he chose to go there? :D

 

He chose Tampa because he and his family live there. Not because it was an ideal winning situation.

 

So can we assume he's not coming to Chicago because of its ideal winning situation?

[abuck1220]

 

I would rather have Soriano leading off. Soriano is more of a threat to steal a base than Murton is. Murton would benefit being in the 2 spot, because he has the ability to hit the ball anywhere on the field, and he makes contract the majority of the time.

 

wow, none of those things are particularly important for a 1 or 2 hitter.

 

 

Why would you want a 40 HR hitter batting leadoff?? So he can just hit solo shots the entire time?

 

where did i say i'd bat a 40 hr guy first?

 

but anyway...hitting a solo shot is better than getting a single and successfully stealing 2nd 70% of the time.

[Drew Doughty]

I would rather see the Cubs add Suppan to their rotation.

What? The guy with a career 4.60 ERA? Really?

 

He has a 3.95 ERA over the last three years in the same division as the Cubs. I wouldn't mind signing him if it means we've drastically improved the offense.

[C.C.]

It's pretty hard to hold Tampa against Lou. No one is going to win there.

 

Can we hold his decision making ability against him, since he chose to go there? :D

 

He chose Tampa because he and his family live there. Not because it was an ideal winning situation.

 

So can we assume he's not coming to Chicago because of its ideal winning situation?

 

I think he's coming here because he thinks he can win. Why else would he come here?

[goonys evil twin]

I think he's coming here because he thinks he can win. Why else would he come here?

 

Perhaps because he's old, it might be his last chance to manager, the Yankees job is unavailable, SF is too far and the Cubs spend a lot of money on payroll and employ lots of veterans. Lots of managers think payroll and veterans are the key to winning.

[XZero771679666304]

I think he's coming here because he thinks he can win. Why else would he come here?

 

Perhaps because he's old, it might be his last chance to manager, the Yankees job is unavailable, SF is too far and the Cubs spend a lot of money on payroll and employ lots of veterans. Lots of managers think payroll and veterans are the key to winning.

 

So he's coming here because he thinks he can win.