College Football - Week of 10/21

[Butterscup1679666578]

Thanks for winning this week, IMB. Next Saturday is gonna be great.

 

Fears confirmed.

 

No AD = no passing

 

Well, you'll have more time to try, Brian Smith fractured his hip today and is done until bowl season.

 

Damn, I saw him being helped off, was hoping it was just an ankle or something. Good thing we're deep on the line, but it's tough to lose a Lombardi Finalist.

[snoodmonger]

Thanks for winning this week, IMB. Next Saturday is gonna be great.

 

Fears confirmed.

 

No AD = no passing

 

IMB, what's your take on Mangino?

[hawkeyecub]

This is the way I'd rank the conferences

 

#1 - SEC

#2 - Pac-10

#3 - Big 10

#4 - Big 12

#5 - Big East

#6 - ACC

 

1. SEC

2. Big 10

3. Big East

4. Pac-10

5. Big 12/ACC tie

[fiver]

clemson is destroying GT...Spiller with a huge game.

 

edit - actually Spiller AND Davis have had huge games...If I'm going to root for a Bowden...it's going to be Tommy.

Edited October 22, 2006 by fiver

[Butterscup1679666578]

Wow, apparently Ok. State missed the game tying PAT in OT and lost 34-33.

[hawkeyecub]

By the way, I can't remember the last time I saw a Michigan defense like the one they have this year. At least not since '97.

 

Iowa came to play today and the defense played very well all day. We just couldn't flip the field position and evenutally that's what lost it for us. That UM defense is just so big up front and so quick and fast everywhere, man. Hart really got running hard in the second half and Breaston's big kick return when it was tied midway through the 3rd was huge.

Henne doesn't look as good without a Braylon or Manningham to throw the ball up to. Man it would be nice to have some recievers this year for Tate. Stupid Arrington.

[cubweiser03]

Spiller looks really good. Can see why he was so highly regarded in HS. The dude is so frickn fast.

[cubweiser03]

By the way, I can't remember the last time I saw a Michigan defense like the one they have this year. At least not since '97.

 

Iowa came to play today and the defense played very well all day. We just couldn't flip the field position and evenutally that's what lost it for us. That UM defense is just so big up front and so quick and fast everywhere, man. Hart really got running hard in the second half and Breaston's big kick return when it was tied midway through the 3rd was huge.

Henne doesn't look as good without a Braylon or Manningham to throw the ball up to. Man it would be nice to have some recievers this year for Tate. Stupid Arrington.

 

UM's front 4 is really strong. Instead of playing that stupid hold your gap defense upfront they are now using their talent to their advantage and attacking people. The LB have really improved too, and they have been used more in blitz packages. I thought Tate hung in there really well today, at first he started really slow and thought UM would roll them. After the bad first couple possesions he did really well considering they couldnt establish the run. #88 looked pretty good for Iowa and their TE had some good catches. Iowas defense looked pretty good upfront too, we were impressed by there run stopping a pressure on Henne. Hart really had to work for his yards, i think Iowas MLB made some bad reads and it cost them the Td and some other plays too. I dont know where #85 Carson Butler came from for UM but they used him quite a bit today and he did well. I agree, Breastons return was huge.

[Derwood]

I don't follow the SEC enough to know if they are the best or not.

 

What I do know is Penn State, and I happened to look at their schedule next year. They drop Minnesota and Northwestern to pick up Iowa and Indiana. With Notre Dame in Week 2, the Lions will have to play the Irish, Michigan, Ohio State, Wisconsin and Iowa next year. That's got to be about as hard as any other 5 games by any other school in the country.

[imb]

Thanks for winning this week, IMB. Next Saturday is gonna be great.

 

Fears confirmed.

 

No AD = no passing

 

IMB, what's your take on Mangino?

 

I was indifferent to him while he was here. He was decent as an offensive coordinator, but I dont think I would want him to run a program.

[hawkeyecub]

#88 looked pretty good for Iowa and their TE had some good catches. Iowas defense looked pretty good upfront too, we were impressed by there run stopping a pressure on Henne. Hart really had to work for his yards, i think Iowas MLB made some bad reads and it cost them the Td and some other plays too. I dont know where #85 Carson Butler came from for UM but they used him quite a bit today and he did well. I agree, Breastons return was huge.

 

#88 is Dominique Douglas a true freshman from Detroit who wasn't recruited by Michigan (or MSU). His best offers besides Iowa were Cincy, Bowling Green and Eastern Michigan. It's strange because he came out of Detroit with tons of honors, but none of the big boys thought he was fast enough or big enough to get by without 4.5 speed. He's a tremendous route runner, great hands and just knows how to play. Unfortunately he's our only legit WR right now.

 

Our defense looked tough today and return 9/11 starters next year. Unfortunately we don't get to play UM or OSU because of the stupid Big Ten schedule.

[Jazz]

my top 15 after tonight

 

#1 Ohio State

#2 Michigan

#3 USC

#4 West Virginia

#5 Texas

#6 Louisville

#7 Auburn

#8 Tennessee

#9 California

#10 Clemson

#11 Florida

#12 Notre Dame

#13 LSU

#14 Arkansas

#15 Nebraska

[NewUserName]

#88 looked pretty good for Iowa and their TE had some good catches. Iowas defense looked pretty good upfront too, we were impressed by there run stopping a pressure on Henne. Hart really had to work for his yards, i think Iowas MLB made some bad reads and it cost them the Td and some other plays too. I dont know where #85 Carson Butler came from for UM but they used him quite a bit today and he did well. I agree, Breastons return was huge.

 

#88 is Dominique Douglas a true freshman from Detroit who wasn't recruited by Michigan (or MSU). His best offers besides Iowa were Cincy, Bowling Green and Eastern Michigan. It's strange because he came out of Detroit with tons of honors, but none of the big boys thought he was fast enough or big enough to get by without 4.5 speed. He's a tremendous route runner, great hands and just knows how to play. Unfortunately he's our only legit WR right now.

 

Our defense looked tough today and return 9/11 starters next year. Unfortunately we don't get to play UM or OSU because of the stupid Big Ten schedule.

 

 

How is it that Purdue got both Michigan and OSU off the last couple of years and Iowa gets them both off the next couple of years. Since they have expanded to 12 games I really think that the Big Ten ought to go to a 10 game conference schedule. I know they wont but it would eliminate things like OSU not playing Wisconin this year.

[Flames24Rulz]

NIU beat Temple 41-20. My friends back in DeKalb said that even though Nicholson threw a pick, he looked much more poised and looked like an actual QB compared to Horvath. I think we'd actually have a shot to do something against Iowa next week if Danny Nic started, but that probably won't happen. Wolfe's New York hopes are definitely done now and NIU's MAC West hopes are in serious jeopardy as well as WMU beat Ball St.

 

SIU had a heartbreaking loss tonight to Western Kentucky, 27-24. We took a 24-10 lead at halftime and then all of a sudden, our offense just quit on us. Our secondary looked like a bunch of wounded ducks as well in the 2nd half. WKU took the lead with 2:20 left, and we were able to convert a 4th and 3 that took us to our 40. On the next play, Nick Hill completed a pass to one of our wideouts to the WKU 45, but a WKU safety stripped the ball away from him and recovered, ending our chances of a comeback.

 

SIU's chances of winning a 4th straight Gateway conference football championship looks to be a moot point right now. We have 2 easy games left in Missouri State and Southern Utah and 2 difficult games at Youngstown State and at home VS Northern Iowa. If we can win 3 of those 4, we'll be in the playoffs. If we can win all 4, we may have a shot for tying for the conference championship. If we lose any more than 1 of those games, we won't even make the playoffs this year.

[Warpticon]

my top 15 after tonight

 

#1 Ohio State

#2 Michigan

#3 USC

#4 West Virginia

#5 Texas

#6 Louisville

#7 Auburn

#8 Tennessee

#9 California

#10 Clemson

#11 Florida

#12 Notre Dame

#13 LSU

#14 Arkansas

#15 Nebraska

 

I'd have Clemson 9, Florida 10, and Cal 11. Otherwise, same.

[Butterscup1679666578]

my top 15 after tonight

 

#1 Ohio State

#2 Michigan

#3 USC

#4 West Virginia

#5 Texas

#6 Louisville

#7 Auburn

#8 Tennessee

#9 California

#10 Clemson

#11 Florida

#12 Notre Dame

#13 LSU

#14 Arkansas

#15 Nebraska

 

Interesting, Nebraska #15. They are good, no doubt, but they haven't impressively beat anyone in conference. A bad KU team by only 7, a bad Iowa State team by only 14, and a meh K-State team by only 18. They are good, and I'd rank them higher than Missouri at this point (just because they have played USC and UT tough), but I don't think they're a top 15 team. I see them losing two of the next three games: on the road against a solid Oklahoma State, home vs. Missouri, and on the road against A&M.

[Soul]

my top 15 after tonight

 

#1 Ohio State

#2 Michigan

#3 USC

#4 West Virginia

#5 Texas

#6 Louisville

#7 Auburn

#8 Tennessee

#9 California

#10 Clemson

#11 Florida

#12 Notre Dame

#13 LSU

#14 Arkansas

#15 Nebraska

 

Interesting, Nebraska #15. They are good, no doubt, but they haven't impressively beat anyone in conference. A bad KU team by only 7, a bad Iowa State team by only 14, and a meh K-State team by only 18. They are good, and I'd rank them higher than Missouri at this point (just because they have played USC and UT tough), but I don't think they're a top 15 team. I see them losing two of the next three games: on the road against a solid Oklahoma State, home vs. Missouri, and on the road against A&M.

 

Wasn't Nebraska #17 this week? You don't go up 2 spots by losing, IMO. Yes, I know they played a top team. I still don't think they'll go up.

[Jazz]

my top 15 after tonight

 

#1 Ohio State

#2 Michigan

#3 USC

#4 West Virginia

#5 Texas

#6 Louisville

#7 Auburn

#8 Tennessee

#9 California

#10 Clemson

#11 Florida

#12 Notre Dame

#13 LSU

#14 Arkansas

#15 Nebraska

 

Interesting, Nebraska #15. They are good, no doubt, but they haven't impressively beat anyone in conference. A bad KU team by only 7, a bad Iowa State team by only 14, and a meh K-State team by only 18. They are good, and I'd rank them higher than Missouri at this point (just because they have played USC and UT tough), but I don't think they're a top 15 team. I see them losing two of the next three games: on the road against a solid Oklahoma State, home vs. Missouri, and on the road against A&M.

 

Wasn't Nebraska #17 this week? You don't go up 2 spots by losing, IMO. Yes, I know they played a top team. I still don't think they'll go up.

 

they barely lost though. a win would have put them in my top 10. losing by two to a heavy favorite top 5 team is at least 2 spots IMO. Who else would you put at 15? Oregon lost badly, GT lost badly (even though it was to a great clemson team). That's two teams that dropped to let Nebraska go up 2.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

my top 15 after tonight

 

#1 Ohio State

#2 Michigan

#3 USC

#4 West Virginia

#5 Texas

#6 Louisville

#7 Auburn

#8 Tennessee

#9 California

#10 Clemson

#11 Florida

#12 Notre Dame

#13 LSU

#14 Arkansas

#15 Nebraska

 

Interesting, Nebraska #15. They are good, no doubt, but they haven't impressively beat anyone in conference. A bad KU team by only 7, a bad Iowa State team by only 14, and a meh K-State team by only 18. They are good, and I'd rank them higher than Missouri at this point (just because they have played USC and UT tough), but I don't think they're a top 15 team. I see them losing two of the next three games: on the road against a solid Oklahoma State, home vs. Missouri, and on the road against A&M.

 

Wasn't Nebraska #17 this week? You don't go up 2 spots by losing, IMO. Yes, I know they played a top team. I still don't think they'll go up.

 

they barely lost though. a win would have put them in my top 10. losing by two to a heavy favorite top 5 team is at least 2 spots IMO.

 

They also barely beat Kansas at home. Their best win was against 4-4 K-State. There's no way they're in the top 15, and they really shouldn't be in the top 20 either. There's too many teams with fewer losses, better wins, or both.

[SouthSideRyan]

Because Auburn, Florida, LSU and Tennessee are all very good teams; Arkansas may be in that group, and South Carolina, Georgia and Alabama all have very good defenses and can be dangerous to any of the teams above. Even Vandy has won at Georgia and played Arkansas tough. Ole Miss has been pretty competitive too...

 

Can I just throw out that Georgia and Ole Miss are F***** dog**** teams and would struggle to win the MAC?

 

And I can't help but mention that warpticon trumped these claims by saying the Big 12 was in the running as the best conference, when it seems to clearly be in the running as the worst of the BCSers.

 

 

PAC 10

Big 10

SEC

Big East

Big 12

ACC

[CubColtPacer]

my top 15 after tonight

 

#1 Ohio State

#2 Michigan

#3 USC

#4 West Virginia

#5 Texas

#6 Louisville

#7 Auburn

#8 Tennessee

#9 California

#10 Clemson

#11 Florida

#12 Notre Dame

#13 LSU

#14 Arkansas

#15 Nebraska

 

Interesting, Nebraska #15. They are good, no doubt, but they haven't impressively beat anyone in conference. A bad KU team by only 7, a bad Iowa State team by only 14, and a meh K-State team by only 18. They are good, and I'd rank them higher than Missouri at this point (just because they have played USC and UT tough), but I don't think they're a top 15 team. I see them losing two of the next three games: on the road against a solid Oklahoma State, home vs. Missouri, and on the road against A&M.

 

Wasn't Nebraska #17 this week? You don't go up 2 spots by losing, IMO. Yes, I know they played a top team. I still don't think they'll go up.

 

they barely lost though. a win would have put them in my top 10. losing by two to a heavy favorite top 5 team is at least 2 spots IMO. Who else would you put at 15? Oregon lost badly, GT lost badly (even though it was to a great clemson team). That's two teams that dropped to let Nebraska go up 2.

 

I would think Rutgers would deserve to be in 15th now at least now that they are 7-0 and have beaten a legitimate opponent. Also Wisconsin deserves to be in front of Nebraska-only one loss to Michigan. A 3rd team that should be in front is BC-only one loss, and wins over Clemson, Va Tech, and Florida State.

[CDBears1259]

Because Auburn, Florida, LSU and Tennessee are all very good teams; Arkansas may be in that group, and South Carolina, Georgia and Alabama all have very good defenses and can be dangerous to any of the teams above. Even Vandy has won at Georgia and played Arkansas tough. Ole Miss has been pretty competitive too...

 

Can I just throw out that Georgia and Ole Miss are F***** dog**** teams and would struggle to win the MAC?

 

And I can't help but mention that warpticon trumped these claims by saying the Big 12 was in the running as the best conference, when it seems to clearly be in the running as the worst of the BCSers.

 

 

PAC 10

Big 10

SEC

Big East

Big 12

ACC

 

Ole Miss, maybe??? Georgia, that's laughable. I understand that UGA is having a bad year, but on athleticism alone they'd dominate in the MAC. SEC third best conference, pffftt!!!

[CuseCubFan69]

Top to bottom the best conference is the Big East, not the SEC. Their are no gimmes in the Big East.

 

There's simply no way this is true. There are 3 downright bad teams out of only 8.

 

What are the bad teams? Syracuse that lost to once beaten Wake Forrest by 10 and Iowa in OT and beat Illinois. UConn beat Indiana. S.Florida beat North Carolina but did lose to Kansas, Cincy played Ohio St and VTech tough so tell me how are they god awful? Mississippi, Vanderbuilt, Miss St, South Carolina and Kentucky haven't beaten one major conference team this year...none and have blown out when they have. Georgia played a 1-6 Colorado, LSU a 3-4 Arizona, Alabama a 0-7 Duke and the only one that acutally plays teams Tenn which beat Cal and Air Force by 1. By this, tell me why this is the best conference? Is it your perception of what you think is good? I admit the wonderful stadiums being full and the great tradition they have is something the Big East does not have but in 2006 they are not better or deeper. I'd say the PAC 10 would be the toughest top to bottom if Stanford didn't suck.

[CuseCubFan69]

my top 15 after tonight

 

#1 Ohio State

#2 Michigan

#3 USC

#4 West Virginia

#5 Texas

#6 Louisville

#7 Auburn

#8 Tennessee

#9 California

#10 Clemson

#11 Florida

#12 Notre Dame

#13 LSU

#14 Arkansas

#15 Nebraska

 

Interesting, Nebraska #15. They are good, no doubt, but they haven't impressively beat anyone in conference. A bad KU team by only 7, a bad Iowa State team by only 14, and a meh K-State team by only 18. They are good, and I'd rank them higher than Missouri at this point (just because they have played USC and UT tough), but I don't think they're a top 15 team. I see them losing two of the next three games: on the road against a solid Oklahoma State, home vs. Missouri, and on the road against A&M.

 

Wasn't Nebraska #17 this week? You don't go up 2 spots by losing, IMO. Yes, I know they played a top team. I still don't think they'll go up.

 

they barely lost though. a win would have put them in my top 10. losing by two to a heavy favorite top 5 team is at least 2 spots IMO. Who else would you put at 15? Oregon lost badly, GT lost badly (even though it was to a great clemson team). That's two teams that dropped to let Nebraska go up 2.

 

I would think Rutgers would deserve to be in 15th now at least now that they are 7-0 and have beaten a legitimate opponent. Also Wisconsin deserves to be in front of Nebraska-only one loss to Michigan. A 3rd team that should be in front is BC-only one loss, and wins over Clemson, Va Tech, and Florida State.

 

They also beat them in Pitt.

[CuseCubFan69]

my top 15 after tonight

 

#1 Ohio State

#2 Michigan

#3 USC

#4 West Virginia

#5 Texas

#6 Louisville

#7 Auburn

#8 Tennessee

#9 California

#10 Clemson

#11 Florida

#12 Notre Dame

#13 LSU

#14 Arkansas

#15 Nebraska

 

Why is Arkansas behind Auburn who they destroyed in Auburn, Tenn, Florida and LSU who lost to Auburn along with Florida while Forida beat Tennessee?

 

If I remember correctly the Freshman QB didn't play or start against USC. Maybe there's a reason why those teams schedule D2 teams out of conference.

Edited October 22, 2006 by CuseCubFan69