Cubs still in Bradley race, Dusty flies to meet with him

[St.Paul Cub]

I could stomach Bradley in RF if the Cubs hold on to Walker. Otherwise, I think they'll need better production out there. Since Walker wasn't part of the Pierre trade, perhaps there is hope that he'll be back. I doubt it.

 

 

A 1-6 of Pierre,Walker,Bradley,Lee,Ramirez, and Barret/Murton may be able to consistently generate runs. With such a lineup, I don't believe we'll see weeks were the Cubs score 4 runs in 6 games, etc. as often as we did in 05.

 

I'd like to keep Walker too. I'm fine with him and Cedeno up the middle. I think that would be a good lineup.

[nolanwood]

yeah, I think a MI of Walker/Cedeno sounds great to me as well. I hope Walker stays :D Spend those extra prospects and $ on quality RF bat and likewise SP.

[Jehrico]

yeah, I think a MI of Walker/Cedeno sounds great to me as well. I hope Walker stays :D Spend those extra prospects and $ on quality RF bat and likewise SP.

 

I like that too....however, I feel better about Baker using Neifi as a backup like he should be if we had another SS and Ronny was penned in for 2B. Don't ask me why, but just call it a gut feeling that Baker will give Neifi more starts over RonnyC at SS than he would at 2b. That was the only real reason I was disappointed when Furcal went to the idiots out west.

[snoodmonger]

With the acquisition for Pierre, maybe Dusty was there to guage whether Bradley would be opposed to playing rightfield.

 

I'm not sure I want Bradley now. I want a 30 HR 280/350 guy in right and I'm not sure Bradley fits that bill.

 

That's only a .630 OPS! :wink:

 

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Wow,

 

A Les Miserables reference. :shock:

 

Now folks, that what makes this board special. You don't get culture like that on other sites.

 

 

I thought it was a Seinfeld reference. :P

[Andy]

Jayson Stark just said that he expects Bradley to be a Cub. "Maybe not this week", said Stark, but he thinks Bradley will end up on the North Side.

[mg420]

Jayson Stark just said that he expects Bradley to be a Cub. "Maybe not this week", said Stark, but he thinks Bradley will end up on the North Side.

 

i hope he's wrong. i'll take floyd or wilkerson over bradley any day.

[soapy]

Jayson Stark just said that he expects Bradley to be a Cub. "Maybe not this week", said Stark, but he thinks Bradley will end up on the North Side.

 

i hope he's wrong. i'll take floyd or wilkerson over bradley any day.

 

Why not both (Floyd and Bradley)? Can the Cubs pull off a trade for each? I think it's possible. Platoon Murton and Floyd in LF.

[CuseCubFan69]

I wonder if Hairston is going to LA? If Bradley goes to Chicago that would give the Cubs 2 guys that can play CF and the other positions are covered with backups too.

[soapy]

I wonder if Hairston is going to LA? If Bradley goes to Chicago that would give the Cubs 2 guys that can play CF and the other positions are covered with backups too.

 

Hairston + Patterson to LA for Bradley? (I still don't believe Patterson alone is enough)

 

What prospects are we talking for Floyd? (Williams, Hill, less?)

 

Pierre CF

Walker 2B

Lee 1B

Ramirez 3B

Floyd/Murton LF

Bradley RF

Barrett C

Cedeno/Perez SS

 

:thumright:

 

 

*comes back to reality*

[BigbadB]

I wonder if Hairston is going to LA? If Bradley goes to Chicago that would give the Cubs 2 guys that can play CF and the other positions are covered with backups too.

 

Hairston + Patterson to LA for Bradley? (I still don't believe Patterson alone is enough)

 

What prospects are we talking for Floyd? (Williams, Hill, less?)

 

Pierre CF

Walker 2B

Lee 1B

Ramirez 3B

Floyd/Murton LF

Bradley RF

Barrett C

Cedeno/Perez SS

 

:thumright:

 

 

*comes back to reality*

 

Name some teams that can afford to take on Cliff Floyd's contract for 2006 that would be willing to also give up a significant prospect to get him?

 

That should answer your question as to what type of prospect it would take. I'm thinking Koronka or Wellemeyer.

 

NYM need to move Floyd to make salary space for Manny. Every team will know this. The team with the most appealing average prospect gets their man. Of course, we could add Jose Macias into any one of those deals, also. :D

[mg420]

Jayson Stark just said that he expects Bradley to be a Cub. "Maybe not this week", said Stark, but he thinks Bradley will end up on the North Side.

 

i hope he's wrong. i'll take floyd or wilkerson over bradley any day.

 

Why not both (Floyd and Bradley)? Can the Cubs pull off a trade for each? I think it's possible. Platoon Murton and Floyd in LF.

 

because both murton & floyd should play full time. as i said, i would much rather have murton in lf & floyd in rf than bradley anywhere in the mix.

[goonys evil twin]

Jayson Stark just said that he expects Bradley to be a Cub. "Maybe not this week", said Stark, but he thinks Bradley will end up on the North Side.

 

i hope he's wrong. i'll take floyd or wilkerson over bradley any day.

 

Why not both (Floyd and Bradley)? Can the Cubs pull off a trade for each? I think it's possible. Platoon Murton and Floyd in LF.

 

because both murton & floyd should play full time. as i said, i would much rather have murton in lf & floyd in rf than bradley anywhere in the mix.

 

Murton is no guarantee for 600+ PA of solid production, while Floyd is not a 600+ PA guy either. I'd take an OF of Murton (400), Pierre (400), Floyd (400) and Bradley (600), with Hairston and Mabry down the line. That would be affordable, flexible and productive.

 

I'd love to get Murton 600 PA this year. But this offense isn't good enough to take the chance that he'll end up with a 750 OPS. Floyd would be nice to have, but he never plays a full season. Bradley would be great to have, and the worst that could happen is he's only out there for 200 PA (if he gets hurt or flips out), in which case you have Floyd and Murton to step in.

[mg420]

Jayson Stark just said that he expects Bradley to be a Cub. "Maybe not this week", said Stark, but he thinks Bradley will end up on the North Side.

 

i hope he's wrong. i'll take floyd or wilkerson over bradley any day.

 

Why not both (Floyd and Bradley)? Can the Cubs pull off a trade for each? I think it's possible. Platoon Murton and Floyd in LF.

 

because both murton & floyd should play full time. as i said, i would much rather have murton in lf & floyd in rf than bradley anywhere in the mix.

 

Murton is no guarantee for 600+ PA of solid production, while Floyd is not a 600+ PA guy either. I'd take an OF of Murton (400), Pierre (400), Floyd (400) and Bradley (600), with Hairston and Mabry down the line. That would be affordable, flexible and productive.

 

I'd love to get Murton 600 PA this year. But this offense isn't good enough to take the chance that he'll end up with a 750 OPS. Floyd would be nice to have, but he never plays a full season. Bradley would be great to have, and the worst that could happen is he's only out there for 200 PA (if he gets hurt or flips out), in which case you have Floyd and Murton to step in.

 

it is if the starting pitchers stay healthy & the bullpen comes through as expected. floyd had 600+ pa last year so why not in 2006?

Edited December 7, 2005 by mg420

[badgercub]

Jayson Stark just said that he expects Bradley to be a Cub. "Maybe not this week", said Stark, but he thinks Bradley will end up on the North Side.

 

i hope he's wrong. i'll take floyd or wilkerson over bradley any day.

 

Why not both (Floyd and Bradley)? Can the Cubs pull off a trade for each? I think it's possible. Platoon Murton and Floyd in LF.

 

because both murton & floyd should play full time. as i said, i would much rather have murton in lf & floyd in rf than bradley anywhere in the mix.

 

Murton is no guarantee for 600+ PA of solid production, while Floyd is not a 600+ PA guy either. I'd take an OF of Murton (400), Pierre (400), Floyd (400) and Bradley (600), with Hairston and Mabry down the line. That would be affordable, flexible and productive.

 

I'd love to get Murton 600 PA this year. But this offense isn't good enough to take the chance that he'll end up with a 750 OPS. Floyd would be nice to have, but he never plays a full season. Bradley would be great to have, and the worst that could happen is he's only out there for 200 PA (if he gets hurt or flips out), in which case you have Floyd and Murton to step in.

 

Goony, I think that makes a lot of sense. It reduces some of the injury risk and also strengthens the bench which was a glaring weakness last year. Now just add Lugo and you would have something like this:

 

Pierre

Lugo

Lee

Floyd

Ramirez

Bradley

Barrett

Cedeno

[snoodmonger]

Jayson Stark just said that he expects Bradley to be a Cub. "Maybe not this week", said Stark, but he thinks Bradley will end up on the North Side.

 

i hope he's wrong. i'll take floyd or wilkerson over bradley any day.

 

Why not both (Floyd and Bradley)? Can the Cubs pull off a trade for each? I think it's possible. Platoon Murton and Floyd in LF.

 

because both murton & floyd should play full time. as i said, i would much rather have murton in lf & floyd in rf than bradley anywhere in the mix.

 

Murton is no guarantee for 600+ PA of solid production, while Floyd is not a 600+ PA guy either. I'd take an OF of Murton (400), Pierre (400), Floyd (400) and Bradley (600), with Hairston and Mabry down the line. That would be affordable, flexible and productive.

 

I'd love to get Murton 600 PA this year. But this offense isn't good enough to take the chance that he'll end up with a 750 OPS. Floyd would be nice to have, but he never plays a full season. Bradley would be great to have, and the worst that could happen is he's only out there for 200 PA (if he gets hurt or flips out), in which case you have Floyd and Murton to step in.

 

it is if the starting pitchers stay healthy & the bullpen comes through as expected. floyd had 600+ pa last year so why not in 2006?

 

Because he's only done it three times in his career, and last year was the first since 2001.

[mg420]

Jayson Stark just said that he expects Bradley to be a Cub. "Maybe not this week", said Stark, but he thinks Bradley will end up on the North Side.

 

i hope he's wrong. i'll take floyd or wilkerson over bradley any day.

 

Why not both (Floyd and Bradley)? Can the Cubs pull off a trade for each? I think it's possible. Platoon Murton and Floyd in LF.

 

because both murton & floyd should play full time. as i said, i would much rather have murton in lf & floyd in rf than bradley anywhere in the mix.

 

Murton is no guarantee for 600+ PA of solid production, while Floyd is not a 600+ PA guy either. I'd take an OF of Murton (400), Pierre (400), Floyd (400) and Bradley (600), with Hairston and Mabry down the line. That would be affordable, flexible and productive.

 

I'd love to get Murton 600 PA this year. But this offense isn't good enough to take the chance that he'll end up with a 750 OPS. Floyd would be nice to have, but he never plays a full season. Bradley would be great to have, and the worst that could happen is he's only out there for 200 PA (if he gets hurt or flips out), in which case you have Floyd and Murton to step in.

 

it is if the starting pitchers stay healthy & the bullpen comes through as expected. floyd had 600+ pa last year so why not in 2006?

 

Because he's only done it three times in his career, and last year was the first since 2001.

 

if you include 2002 when he had 596, thats 4 out of 8 years of him starting.

[BigbadB]

Jayson Stark just said that he expects Bradley to be a Cub. "Maybe not this week", said Stark, but he thinks Bradley will end up on the North Side.

 

i hope he's wrong. i'll take floyd or wilkerson over bradley any day.

 

Why not both (Floyd and Bradley)? Can the Cubs pull off a trade for each? I think it's possible. Platoon Murton and Floyd in LF.

 

because both murton & floyd should play full time. as i said, i would much rather have murton in lf & floyd in rf than bradley anywhere in the mix.

 

Murton is no guarantee for 600+ PA of solid production, while Floyd is not a 600+ PA guy either. I'd take an OF of Murton (400), Pierre (400), Floyd (400) and Bradley (600), with Hairston and Mabry down the line. That would be affordable, flexible and productive.

 

I'd love to get Murton 600 PA this year. But this offense isn't good enough to take the chance that he'll end up with a 750 OPS. Floyd would be nice to have, but he never plays a full season. Bradley would be great to have, and the worst that could happen is he's only out there for 200 PA (if he gets hurt or flips out), in which case you have Floyd and Murton to step in.

 

Goony, I think that makes a lot of sense. It reduces some of the injury risk and also strengthens the bench which was a glaring weakness last year. Now just add Lugo and you would have something like this:

 

Pierre

Lugo

Lee

Floyd

Ramirez

Bradley

Barrett

Cedeno

 

If you did what Goony suggests (stole my idea :P ), I don't think you need Lugo. Considering Tampa is standing firm that they want even more than Andy Marte for Lugo, I don't think Lugo is a realistic option anymore.

 

Cedeno and Walker hold down the middle infield. The offense would be plentiful from the other 7 spots that even if Cedeno couldn't bat his weight, the Cubs could still put a lot of runs on the board.

 

Pierre, Bradley, Lee, Floyd, Ramirez, Walker, Barrett, Cedeno

[badgercub]

[quote name="goony's evil twin

 

Murton is no guarantee for 600+ PA of solid production' date=' while Floyd is not a 600+ PA guy either. I'd take an OF of Murton (400), Pierre (400), Floyd (400) and Bradley (600), with Hairston and Mabry down the line. That would be affordable, flexible and productive.

 

I'd love to get Murton 600 PA this year. But this offense isn't good enough to take the chance that he'll end up with a 750 OPS. Floyd would be nice to have, but he never plays a full season. Bradley would be great to have, and the worst that could happen is he's only out there for 200 PA (if he gets hurt or flips out), in which case you have Floyd and Murton to step in.[/quote]

 

Goony, I think that makes a lot of sense. It reduces some of the injury risk and also strengthens the bench which was a glaring weakness last year. Now just add Lugo and you would have something like this:

 

Pierre

Lugo

Lee

Floyd

Ramirez

Bradley

Barrett

Cedeno

 

If you did what Goony suggests (stole my idea :P ), I don't think you need Lugo. Considering Tampa is standing firm that they want even more than Andy Marte for Lugo, I don't think Lugo is a realistic option anymore.

 

Cedeno and Walker hold down the middle infield. The offense would be plentiful from the other 7 spots that even if Cedeno couldn't bat his weight, the Cubs could still put a lot of runs on the board.

 

Pierre, Bradley, Lee, Floyd, Ramirez, Walker, Barrett, Cedeno

 

My thinking is that Walker would be used one way or another to pick one of either Floyd, Bradley, or possibly another SP. I think the handwriting is on the wall that Walker will not be back, and if he isn't we will truly need Lugo, unless you want Neifi starting.

 

 

edit: sorry about the edit job on the quotes, just trying to eliminate some stuff

[rawaction]

Jayson Stark just said that he expects Bradley to be a Cub. "Maybe not this week", said Stark, but he thinks Bradley will end up on the North Side.

 

i hope he's wrong. i'll take floyd or wilkerson over bradley any day.

 

Why not both (Floyd and Bradley)? Can the Cubs pull off a trade for each? I think it's possible. Platoon Murton and Floyd in LF.

 

because both murton & floyd should play full time. as i said, i would much rather have murton in lf & floyd in rf than bradley anywhere in the mix.

 

Murton is no guarantee for 600+ PA of solid production, while Floyd is not a 600+ PA guy either. I'd take an OF of Murton (400), Pierre (400), Floyd (400) and Bradley (600), with Hairston and Mabry down the line. That would be affordable, flexible and productive.

 

I'd love to get Murton 600 PA this year. But this offense isn't good enough to take the chance that he'll end up with a 750 OPS. Floyd would be nice to have, but he never plays a full season. Bradley would be great to have, and the worst that could happen is he's only out there for 200 PA (if he gets hurt or flips out), in which case you have Floyd and Murton to step in.

 

Goony, I think that makes a lot of sense. It reduces some of the injury risk and also strengthens the bench which was a glaring weakness last year. Now just add Lugo and you would have something like this:

 

Pierre

Lugo

Lee

Floyd

Ramirez

Bradley

Barrett

Cedeno

 

If you did what Goony suggests (stole my idea :P ), I don't think you need Lugo. Considering Tampa is standing firm that they want even more than Andy Marte for Lugo, I don't think Lugo is a realistic option anymore.

 

Cedeno and Walker hold down the middle infield. The offense would be plentiful from the other 7 spots that even if Cedeno couldn't bat his weight, the Cubs could still put a lot of runs on the board.

 

Pierre, Bradley, Lee, Floyd, Ramirez, Walker, Barrett, Cedeno

 

May be the best solution for the Cubs. No great players (unless Lee repeats 04), but potential to be above average at every position.

[da bears]

Does the lineups were talking about generate enough offense though? That is my main concern. I mean, a healthy Bradley obviously would give you good solid power out in right, and if Murton does what he did this past season, left field should be solid, and overall the outfield should be a lot better. That beingn said, does that put our offense in a position to compete for the division?

[goonys evil twin]

Does the lineups were talking about generate enough offense though? That is my main concern. I mean, a healthy Bradley obviously would give you good solid power out in right, and if Murton does what he did this past season, left field should be solid, and overall the outfield should be a lot better. That beingn said, does that put our offense in a position to compete for the division?

 

They are not currently in a position to "compete within the division". But a good RF should change that. However, with a top 5 payroll in all of baseball, the Cubs should be in a position to win 95+ games, and I don't see it. This offense is an upgrade to last years, but with considerable downside risk. Take out Walker and add in more Neifi, and it gets worse. Personally I see Hendry going the easy way out with a bum in RF, which would probably leave the Cubs with no better than a 7/8th place finish in the NL for runs scored next year. Add in a better RF and maybe they are a 5th/6th place team (assuming no major setbacks). Add in a great RF and they could be top 4. And with so many questions about the pitching staff, I wouldn't be comfortable saying they'll definitely be top 5 there, that looks to me like a team that will contend for the wild card and maybe win 85-89 games, but hardly a top notch ballclub. Of course, Hendry still has a chance to rectify the situation and put a team on the field that a $100m payroll should demand.

[donobr]

If Bradley is the next move ,what is holding it up?

[NorthsideAvenger]

If Bradley is the next move ,what is holding it up?

 

Prolly trying to see if there is a better (or a team interested) deal out there then Patterson (or Walker).

[TrueBlueCubFan]

If Bradley is the next move ,what is holding it up?

Bradley is rumored to be non-tendered on Dec. 20th. Some teams may be waiting until then.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

Gammons has a small item about Bradley and the Cubs today here

 

 

10. Will anyone take Milton Bradley from the Dodgers?

The A's were interested. The Cubs thought they had a Todd Walker deal, and the stakes have risen. Watch out for the Blue Jays.