Dreams of Brian Giles in Cubbie Blue...

[ManCrushOnNomar]

Time to turn attention towards Aubrey Huff.

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[RynoRules]

And the Padres fans aren't happy with it. :evil:

 

Yeah, I've talked to many SD fans here about the possibility of the Cubs making a big offer for Giles, and they all make the same claim....They wouldn't miss him. What they seem to think in San Diego is that it is just some fluke that Giles, Klesko and Nevin lost power moving to Petco. It's not a fluke. Whatever power hitter they get is going to show a decrease in power, and it's not because of steroids.

 

Well, if Giles is dumb enough to take such a huge paycut to stay and play in a park that will hurt his HOF chances, meanwhile playing for an owner that cares more about what's going on around the park (shopping centers, condos, hotels, etc...) than what is going on inside the park (besides the sold out games), so be it.

 

Cliff Floyd, here we come.

 

Ok, he's good, but once and foer all, he's no where near an HOFer. I know that most of us wanted him, but guys, lets be serious here: he's a very nice player who would have been a very good fit in our OF.

 

That said, it ain't over till its over. And I have suspected all along that JH wasn't counting on getting him. I mean, if we al knew it would take more than the usual dollars to pry him away from the Coast, then it stands to reason that getting him at all was, at best, not likely.

[USSoccer]

Are the Rays going to move Huff to first? That'd seem like the wise move to me.

 

Crawford

Lugo

Young

Gomes

Cantu

Huff

Upton

Baldelli

Hall

 

That was done very quickly off the top of my head, but that is a helluva lot of great young hitting talent.

 

If they move Huff I want no part of him. He sucked last year, and has motivation/attitude isues.

[TheDude]

The reasons for Giles to not leave San Diego had been discussed ad nauseam. I don't think many people held out more than a dream's chances for Giles to come to Chicago. Maybe Hendry knew Giles wasn't going anywhere, and that's why he never stated he was going to pursue him?

 

I'm glad this is approaching an end, because Giles name has stifled every other discussion about offseason priority.

[BigbadB]

And the Padres fans aren't happy with it. :evil:

 

Yeah, I've talked to many SD fans here about the possibility of the Cubs making a big offer for Giles, and they all make the same claim....They wouldn't miss him. What they seem to think in San Diego is that it is just some fluke that Giles, Klesko and Nevin lost power moving to Petco. It's not a fluke. Whatever power hitter they get is going to show a decrease in power, and it's not because of steroids.

 

Well, if Giles is dumb enough to take such a huge paycut to stay and play in a park that will hurt his HOF chances, meanwhile playing for an owner that cares more about what's going on around the park (shopping centers, condos, hotels, etc...) than what is going on inside the park (besides the sold out games), so be it.

 

Cliff Floyd, here we come.

 

Ok, he's good, but once and foer all, he's no where near an HOFer. I know that most of us wanted him, but guys, lets be serious here: he's a very nice player who would have been a very good fit in our OF.

 

That said, it ain't over till its over. And I have suspected all along that JH wasn't counting on getting him. I mean, if we al knew it would take more than the usual dollars to pry him away from the Coast, then it stands to reason that getting him at all was, at best, not likely.

 

How about reading the whole thread before you pick a comment to tear apart? I already retracted my comment with the fact he started too late, and either played for bad teams or played in bad hitters parks.

[Dr. Cub]

Are the Rays going to move Huff to first? That'd seem like the wise move to me.

 

Crawford

Lugo

Young

Gomes

Cantu

Huff

Upton

Baldelli

Hall

 

That was done very quickly off the top of my head, but that is a helluva lot of great young hitting talent.

 

If they move Huff I want no part of him. He sucked last year, and has motivation/attitude isues.

 

I can only speak for myself, but after years of dealing with THAT management/organization, I think I'd have an attitude problem as well. That being said, I still don't want Huff.

[RynoRules]

And the Padres fans aren't happy with it. :evil:

 

Yeah, I've talked to many SD fans here about the possibility of the Cubs making a big offer for Giles, and they all make the same claim....They wouldn't miss him. What they seem to think in San Diego is that it is just some fluke that Giles, Klesko and Nevin lost power moving to Petco. It's not a fluke. Whatever power hitter they get is going to show a decrease in power, and it's not because of steroids.

 

Well, if Giles is dumb enough to take such a huge paycut to stay and play in a park that will hurt his HOF chances, meanwhile playing for an owner that cares more about what's going on around the park (shopping centers, condos, hotels, etc...) than what is going on inside the park (besides the sold out games), so be it.

 

Cliff Floyd, here we come.

 

Ok, he's good, but once and foer all, he's no where near an HOFer. I know that most of us wanted him, but guys, lets be serious here: he's a very nice player who would have been a very good fit in our OF.

 

That said, it ain't over till its over. And I have suspected all along that JH wasn't counting on getting him. I mean, if we al knew it would take more than the usual dollars to pry him away from the Coast, then it stands to reason that getting him at all was, at best, not likely.

 

How about reading the whole thread before you pick a comment to tear apart? I already retracted my comment with the fact he started too late, and either played for bad teams or played in bad hitters parks.

 

I don't think I "tore apart" your comment and I also don't think you completely retracted it. That said, it was not intended as insult towards you, only to remind everyone that whether we get Giles or not, its not necessarily the end of the world. Moreover, we all knew that it was a long-shot, and many amongst us were mainly concerned that he should not go to St Louis. Well, at least he doe snot appear to be going there.

 

However, as someone else pointed out, its not yet official, so you never know.

[Wheelimus]

I hope those sighing at a Cliff Floyd aquisition realize that Cliff Floyd may very well be the best case scenario in right field next year :(

[Transmogrified Tiger]

If Tampa Bay traded Johnny Gomes, you might as well just contract them now.

 

Crawford/Baldelli/Young isn't bad.

 

If Young plays in the big leagues.

 

It's going to happen soon, if not right at the beginning of the year. The D-Rays aren't going to compete next year, and Gomes isn't exactly a fan favorite that trading him and not replacing him with Young right away is going to kill fan morale(what little is left in TB).

 

I meant the rumors about Young and Upton being kept at AAA all next year.

 

Yeah, my point is that there's no doubt if Young will be up, just when. Gomes isn't someone who trading him for pitching help and replacing with a lesser player(Hollins?) to hold the fort for Young isn't going to cause the fanbase to be really upset.

[LoneStarCubFan]

I hope those sighing at a Cliff Floyd aquisition realize that Cliff Floyd may very well be the best case scenario in right field next year :(

 

Unless Matt Murton is the right fielder and Adam Dunn or Manny Ramirez is the left fielder.

 

I have a feeling the Cub roster will look drastically different shortly after the winter meetings.

[treebird]

offseason over

 

im thinking 07 could be our year though!

 

see you next october guys

[frostwyrm]

I wish Steinbrenner would throw a tantrum and put Matsui and Sheffield on the market.

[YearofDaCubs]

offseason over

 

im thinking 07 could be our year though!

 

see you next october guys

It's going to be a rough offseason and I just have no faith in Hendry. Can he sign FAs? Will he make trades to solidify our OF? I personally do not think so.

[CubsWin]

offseason over

 

im thinking 07 could be our year though!

 

see you next october guys

It's going to be a rough offseason and I just have no faith in Hendry. Can he sign FAs? Will he make trades to solidify our OF? I personally do not think so.

I think he will, but I certainly could be wrong. Can't wait to find out, though.

[CubsWin]

So where is this deal that was "all but done" over 24 hours ago?

 

I checked the official Padres site...nothing. I checked the Padres page over at Pro Sports Daily, one of my favorite sites...nothing. I checked all over the ESPN site...nothing. I googled Brian Giles and found a site called PadresNation...nothing. That lead me to the website for the San Diego newspaper the North County Times. The only story they had up on their Padres page that was remotely about Brian Giles was written on the 14th and it talked about Giles's intention to file for free agency after the end of the World Series. Another San Diego paper, the Union Tribune, had nothing on Giles. Most of the latest stories are either about GM Kevin Towers leaving to go join the D-Backs or the firing of the team's assistant trainer. Rotoworld? Fanball? Nothing.

 

So, just how done is this "all but done" deal?

[Jazz]

its looking more and more like this san diego radio station is the equivalent of our "beloved" Score.

 

The pieces dont seem to fit. Why would Giles accept most likely about 20 mil and a year less than he could make on the open market? Is the hometown discount really that much?

[CoolHandLuke]

I wish Steinbrenner would throw a tantrum and put Matsui and Sheffield on the market.

 

Isn't Matsui a free agent?

[mhuber92211]

I guess nobody read my post about the station. Oh well... People are pushing the panic button WAY too early

[Laura]

So, just how done is this "all but done" deal?

 

What throws fuel on the fire of any rumor these days *cough*dustytothedodgers*cough**hack**cough* is that MLB frowns upon teams announcing much of anything during post-season play.

 

I mean, they COULD have agreed to huge mega deals and they just can't SAY anything because of pesky Selig. Right?!?!

[RynoRules]

So, just how done is this "all but done" deal?

 

What throws fuel on the fire of any rumor these days *cough*dustytothedodgers*cough**hack**cough* is that MLB frowns upon teams announcing much of anything during post-season play.

 

I mean, they COULD have agreed to huge mega deals and they just can't SAY anything because of pesky Selig. Right?!?!

 

I think that's accurate. We've heard it several times before. If the deal for Giles is done, we won't know until the day after tomorrow. :wink:

[Schwarber Fan]

I wish Steinbrenner would throw a tantrum and put Matsui and Sheffield on the market.

 

Isn't Matsui a free agent?

 

yes

[nilodnayr]

If true, 3 and 30's a bargain. Guess it's difficult for him to leave family behind and SD's a really nice place to live.

 

If it's true he's staying in SD, it may be just as well. Giles could have signed with STL before even considering the Cubs. With Sanders ($4M) and Walker ($6M) both free agents, and Roger Cedeno off the books ($1.5M), STL could have easily paid Giles $10-12M per year. That type of dough and the chance to win year-in/year-out is hard to pass up. Let's see if we get confirmation reports in the next 12 hours about re-signing with SD.

 

That's about the most positive spin to put on it. Thankfully's he not going to St. Louis.

 

The Cards would have had to add about 10M or so to their payroll to snag Giles. Even with that money coming off, it is nearly equal to the amount of money they have to pay inhouse for raises. Plus the have the matty mo decision to make. Also if Im not mistaken they need to get two corner outfielders with whatever money they have.

[gflore34]

If true, 3 and 30's a bargain. Guess it's difficult for him to leave family behind and SD's a really nice place to live.

 

If it's true he's staying in SD, it may be just as well. Giles could have signed with STL before even considering the Cubs. With Sanders ($4M) and Walker ($6M) both free agents, and Roger Cedeno off the books ($1.5M), STL could have easily paid Giles $10-12M per year. That type of dough and the chance to win year-in/year-out is hard to pass up. Let's see if we get confirmation reports in the next 12 hours about re-signing with SD.

 

That's about the most positive spin to put on it. Thankfully's he not going to St. Louis.

 

The Cards would have had to add about 10M or so to their payroll to snag Giles. Even with that money coming off, it is nearly equal to the amount of money they have to pay inhouse for raises. Plus the have the matty mo decision to make. Also if Im not mistaken they need to get two corner outfielders with whatever money they have.

 

Petty as it may sound (or is read?) I too, am thankful Giles may be re-upping with SD rather, than potentially seeing him in the Cardinal OF. As for the Cardinal corner OFers, we all know the "smart" Jocketty is going to take a gamble on some re-tread or a Jacque Jones, etc. who'll proceed to have the obligatory career year. Must be a secure feeling to know that nearly every gamble you take will pay off.

[indifferent]

If true, 3 and 30's a bargain. Guess it's difficult for him to leave family behind and SD's a really nice place to live.

 

If it's true he's staying in SD, it may be just as well. Giles could have signed with STL before even considering the Cubs. With Sanders ($4M) and Walker ($6M) both free agents, and Roger Cedeno off the books ($1.5M), STL could have easily paid Giles $10-12M per year. That type of dough and the chance to win year-in/year-out is hard to pass up. Let's see if we get confirmation reports in the next 12 hours about re-signing with SD.

 

That's about the most positive spin to put on it. Thankfully's he not going to St. Louis.

 

The Cards would have had to add about 10M or so to their payroll to snag Giles. Even with that money coming off, it is nearly equal to the amount of money they have to pay inhouse for raises. Plus the have the matty mo decision to make. Also if Im not mistaken they need to get two corner outfielders with whatever money they have.

 

But the Cards are rumored to be adding 10-15 mil in payroll due to moving into Busch. Jocketty confirmed that in a Post Dispatch article yesterday (not the specific amount, but that payroll will increase). If the Cards re-sign Sanders they only need one OF. If they don't, Taguchi and Rodgriguez are expected to platoon in LF.

[TheDude]

Petty as it may sound (or is read?) I too, am thankful Giles may be re-upping with SD rather, than potentially seeing him in the Cardinal OF. As for the Cardinal corner OFers, we all know the "smart" Jocketty is going to take a gamble on some re-tread or a Jacque Jones, etc. who'll proceed to have the obligatory career year. Must be a secure feeling to know that nearly every gamble you take will pay off.

The Cardinals can be tricky. Last offseason everyone thought they would decline, especially in starting pitching, because of very tight money concerns. Then they turned around and traded for Mulder at 6.5 mil, who figures to only get more expensive.