Non-Cub Playoff Megathread Chit-Chat

[Rcal10]

4 minutes ago, Gjfificifjdej said:

the current system is unfair and also sucks. All I want is a league where everyone plays by the same rules, part of that is getting rid of the small markets special treatment, part of that is every team being allowed to spend as much as they want on any aspect of their franchise, roster payroll included in my opinion. 

I agree with this. I don’t know how they get to this, but this is what I want. One rule for all teams. Period. If you don’t spend you don’t get help and if you fall behind, you fall benind. 

[Stratos]

1 hour ago, Rcal10 said:

I agree. Which is why a salary cap can’t work. All teams have to share all revenues. And that isn’t happening. Which, again, is why I don’t believe 23 owners want this anyway. 

What we don't really know is how each individual owner feels about potential CBA changes since high end low revenue teams will have differing views and interests on some things. 

I don't even know how the owners decide amongst themselves what policies to push for.  Do they just have a vote amongst all 30 and majority rules?  There's no way they all agree on every issue.

The players seem to solve it by just everyone voting on the CBA proposals (not sure what % of votes are needed among players to approve it)

[Andy]

21 hours ago, soccer10k said:

The last 8 World Series champions all ranked in the top 10 for payroll. Last one who didn't was Houston in 2017 because they tanked for a few years and had a ton of cheap players.

We have 3 small markets left in the playoffs and every one of them has been sustainably winning at remarkable levels for a decade or more, levels the pro-cap people are literally telling us are impossible while it is happening.

If that doesn't count because all that matters is who wins the title, guess what, MLB has had more unique champions since 1990 than any of the salary capped leagues. And actually, it isn't even particularly close.

There's no version of this where pro-cap people aren't wrong.

Edited 4 hours ago by Andy

[Rcal10]

5 hours ago, Stratos said:

What we don't really know is how each individual owner feels about potential CBA changes since high end low revenue teams will have differing views and interests on some things. 

I don't even know how the owners decide amongst themselves what policies to push for.  Do they just have a vote amongst all 30 and majority rules?  There's no way they all agree on every issue.

The players seem to solve it by just everyone voting on the CBA proposals (not sure what % of votes are needed among players to approve it)

Any vote needs 23 owners to approve anything. 

[soccer10k]

12 hours ago, Jason Ross said:

Beyond that, the number of players a roster in a particular sport has is immaterial and we're moving goal posts. The point is that the salary cap has not created any more or less parity in those sports. It hasn't stopped a "clear best team". That is sports. 

When we're talking about how a sport functions, how many players and how much some of those players can affect a game or a season absolutely matters. I'm not moving the goal posts. You're the one who compared the Dodgers to the Patriots and Chiefs.

If you have peak LeBron James and you try in any way, there's a pretty high floor to how good your team will be (assuming health of course). If you have peak Tom Brady, the same holds true. Like can you imagine either of those players making the playoffs once over an 8 year peak? Over 17 seasons, Brady won 12+ games 13 times. The other four he won 10, 11, 11 and got hurt one year. LeBron was a lock for 50+ wins for a decade plus. Meanwhile Mike Trout won 90+ games once.

So in football, if you luck into Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, you're a dynasty in the making. In the NBA, if you luck into Michael Jordan, Tim Duncan or LeBron James, you're a dynasty in the making. But in baseball if you luck into Mike Trout, well, not so much. Because you can't just let Mike Trout take 40% of the PA's. Or you can't let a pitcher face 40% of the batters every game. The sports are fundamentally different, which is why it's wrong to compare them.