Cubs (TBD) vs Reds (Lowder): 09/20/26, 12:40 PM

[Rcal10]

4 minutes ago, Derwood said:

That's not 5 feet. The warning track is around 12-15 feet wide, and he's another 8-10 feet into the grass

Your right, it is more than 5ft. I was looking at the second photo when after he was hit he backpedaled. Not 25 ft though. And really it doesn’t matter. He was hit. He would have been further back and been hit by a different trajectory of a ball. It was just a freak accident. As someone else said, players know the risk. They want to be as close as they can get.!

[gflore34]

Last year Horton, this year Bregman, both kind of freak injuries, just complete nonsense.  

Edited 4 hours ago by gflore34

[Irrelevant Dude]

2 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

As someone else said, players know the risk. They want to be as close as they can get.!

So protect them from themselves.  If everyone has to stay on the circle, then nobody is gaining an advantage.

[Rcal10]

7 minutes ago, macarthur31 said:

To borrow from "Football Manager"/"Championship Manager", I'd definitely rate Bregman's "Determination" as a 20 of 20.  As much as I respect it - it's so much to believe that 1)come back at all for any postseason play, 2)even if he did, is trajekt enough to get him back up to game speed much less any understandable mental fear/yips when the opposing pitcher fires a fastball up and in on him?  

Not trying to be a downer, but at this point, we just gotta assume it's gonna be Shaw/Ramirez and hope those dudes can catch fire.

He wasn’t hit by a pitched ball. I don’t worry about him having the yips. But I don’t expect him to play for at least 2 to 3 weeks because of multiple fractures. As much as he is extremely determined to play, I can’t see it happening. And without him, I don’t think the Cubs enough to last 2 to 3 weeks without him. 

[Stratos]

31 minutes ago, Irrelevant Dude said:

Based on what?  The big question is how long it takes for swelling to go down.  The facial fractures suck, but that isn't an injury that is really at risk of someone aggravating by playing baseball.  So I would think as soon as the swelling goes down enough and his vision is clear, he would be able to play.  Is that in 7 days or 15 days, I have no idea, but any timeframes are pure speculation.

My guess is the running and also sliding (even feet first) would be what could aggravate it the most of not fully healed.  Luckily he's a slow runner so that could help a bit lol.

Google says a minor or hairline fracture takes about 6-8 weeks to heal, but i imagine if he's able to swing and run he'll be out there.  I would be anyways lol.

[Stratos]

3 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

He wasn’t hit by a pitched ball. I don’t worry about him having the yips. But I don’t expect him to play for at least 2 to 3 weeks because of multiple fractures. As much as he is extremely determined to play, I can’t see it happening. And without him, I don’t think the Cubs enough to last 2 to 3 weeks without him. 

Yeah we're effed.  I think he's likely out the first round at the very least, and maybe the 2nd round. Given how he's been hitting this is a massive blow.  He's been one of the best players in the MLB.

[ILMindState]

37 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

Oh yeah.  That was annoying and led to our downfall with all our gassed pitchers getting lit up in the NLDS.

I think they would have won the game Shota started that series. Or at least have had a chance to. Shota got rocked early. 

[chibears55]

30 minutes ago, Irrelevant Dude said:

Do they really need to?  It isn't the NBA where guys are throwing elbows under the basket.  As long as he doesn't slide headfirst into a base, the chances of any further contact to the face are incredibly low.

Might be up to him, who knows...

Guess its a matter of will a groundball to the face, or a hard tag on a slide, or anything that might draw contact to his face make it worst.

Once youre playing, especially in a playoff game,  you can't really go easy and try to avoid making certain plays or movements,  like sliding headfirst if you need to.

[ILMindState]

1 minute ago, chibears55 said:

Might be up to him, who knows...

Guess its a matter of will a groundball to the face, or a hard tag on a slide, or anything that might draw contact to his face make it worst.

Once youre playing, especially in a playoff game,  you can't really go easy and try to avoid making certain plays or movements,  like sliding headfirst if you need to.

He'll probably DH if we're still playing when he comes back

[chibears55]

2 minutes ago, ILMindState said:

He'll probably DH if we're still playing when he comes back

Yea that would help him alot and may factor in big as to him playing, even in WC round. 

He could be the 2016 Schwarber 😅

[ILMindState]

Good vision gives some hope

[Jason Ross]

4 minutes ago, ILMindState said:

Good vision gives some hope

I don't get the same vibes. This feels like he ain't coming back.

He has legit skull fractures. Long term health of getting rattled again would be serious.

I hope it's pain management. My guess is it's beyond just that. And if there's anything beyond pain management, the Cubs will likely have to tell him no.

[Rcal10]

10 minutes ago, Jason Ross said:

I don't get the same vibes. This feels like he ain't coming back.

He has legit skull fractures. Long term health of getting rattled again would be serious.

I hope it's pain management. My guess is it's beyond just that. And if there's anything beyond pain management, the Cubs will likely have to tell him no.

This is what I think as well. And, as I said, if he did come back it would be weeks away. Cubs don’t have weeks if he isn’t playing. 

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

It's hard to believe they would let him play with facial fractures. Best case maybe he could DH

[Jason Ross]

Just now, Tangled Up in Plaid said:

It's hard to believe they would let him play with facial fractures. Best case maybe he could DH

Yeah, the best case is that he's a DH. But even there, they'd have to do something to protect the face. And I'm not sure how you can both:
1. Protect that portion of his face well enough

While also:

2. Giving him enough vision that he can actually react to the type of stuff these guys will be throwing

[ILMindState]

Dansby is back, Danny P was finding his groove....man this is such a kick in the nuts. What a cursed season. 

[Wilson A2000]

19 minutes ago, Jason Ross said:

Yeah, the best case is that he's a DH. But even there, they'd have to do something to protect the face. And I'm not sure how you can both:
1. Protect that portion of his face well enough

While also:

2. Giving him enough vision that he can actually react to the type of stuff these guys will be throwing

 

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

9 minutes ago, Wilson A2000 said:

 

that would be nuts, lol

[Wilson A2000]

2 minutes ago, Tangled Up in Plaid said:

that would be nuts, lol

At the very least he’s going to be wearing the extended flap helmet for the rest of his career

[Jason Ross]

24 minutes ago, Wilson A2000 said:

 

I certainly hope they can figure something out. Just think that probably causes enough vision issues that I'm not sure if it's viable. 

Fingers crossed. But do think the end result will be Bregman's year being done barring a major run. 

[Stratos]

So do the benefits of standing as close to the plate as you can get away with (with a lefty at the plate) when on deck in order to time up the pitcher better outweigh the risks of getting your face smashed in?  Legit question.

I get CC was defending criticism of his player which is his job, but no need to get PO'd about a legit question.  Just say he was trying to get the best look he could.

And that may go for Morel "trying to hit the ball in the lake" too.

Edited 3 hours ago by Stratos

[Stratos]

1 hour ago, Irrelevant Dude said:

So protect them from themselves.  If everyone has to stay on the circle, then nobody is gaining an advantage.

Agreed.  An extreme example are PED's, not exactly healthy but if everyone's doing it then guys feel they need to just to compete.

[Stratos]

54 minutes ago, Tangled Up in Plaid said:

It's hard to believe they would let him play with facial fractures. Best case maybe he could DH

Well besides vision which is likely due to the swelling, which should go down after a few says, at least it's not bones that directly affect athletic performance.  Could be worse like a break in the arm or leg.

Here it's more about safety and pain tolerance.  Problem is if he's running then his face is bobbing up and down with each step, which could aggravate it.  There's all sorts of helmet contraptions to protect the face at bat or in the field (if those are allowed) so getting hit there again shouldn't be a concern.

[Soul]

12 hours ago, Bull said:

Have they said no fracture? Last I saw was CT scan planned.

This was a bad assumption on my part.

Damn, should we have not skipped church Sunday morning or something?  Effing terrible day.

[UMFan83]

19 minutes ago, Stratos said:

So do the benefits of standing as close to the plate as you can get away with (with a lefty at the plate) when on deck in order to time up the pitcher better outweigh the risks of getting your face smashed in?  Legit question.

I mean if they just let us bang on trash cans he wouldn’t need to stand so close to the plate. This is on the MLB.