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4 minutes ago, Derwood said:

That's not 5 feet. The warning track is around 12-15 feet wide, and he's another 8-10 feet into the grass

Your right, it is more than 5ft. I was looking at the second photo when after he was hit he backpedaled. Not 25 ft though. And really it doesn’t matter. He was hit. He would have been further back and been hit by a different trajectory of a ball. It was just a freak accident. As someone else said, players know the risk. They want to be as close as they can get.!

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Last year Horton, this year Bregman, both kind of freak injuries, just complete nonsense.  

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2 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

As someone else said, players know the risk. They want to be as close as they can get.!

So protect them from themselves.  If everyone has to stay on the circle, then nobody is gaining an advantage.

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7 minutes ago, macarthur31 said:

To borrow from "Football Manager"/"Championship Manager", I'd definitely rate Bregman's "Determination" as a 20 of 20.  As much as I respect it - it's so much to believe that 1)come back at all for any postseason play, 2)even if he did, is trajekt enough to get him back up to game speed much less any understandable mental fear/yips when the opposing pitcher fires a fastball up and in on him?  

Not trying to be a downer, but at this point, we just gotta assume it's gonna be Shaw/Ramirez and hope those dudes can catch fire.

He wasn’t hit by a pitched ball. I don’t worry about him having the yips. But I don’t expect him to play for at least 2 to 3 weeks because of multiple fractures. As much as he is extremely determined to play, I can’t see it happening. And without him, I don’t think the Cubs enough to last 2 to 3 weeks without him. 

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31 minutes ago, Irrelevant Dude said:

Based on what?  The big question is how long it takes for swelling to go down.  The facial fractures suck, but that isn't an injury that is really at risk of someone aggravating by playing baseball.  So I would think as soon as the swelling goes down enough and his vision is clear, he would be able to play.  Is that in 7 days or 15 days, I have no idea, but any timeframes are pure speculation.

My guess is the running and also sliding (even feet first) would be what could aggravate it the most of not fully healed.  Luckily he's a slow runner so that could help a bit lol.

Google says a minor or hairline fracture takes about 6-8 weeks to heal, but i imagine if he's able to swing and run he'll be out there.  I would be anyways lol.

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3 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

He wasn’t hit by a pitched ball. I don’t worry about him having the yips. But I don’t expect him to play for at least 2 to 3 weeks because of multiple fractures. As much as he is extremely determined to play, I can’t see it happening. And without him, I don’t think the Cubs enough to last 2 to 3 weeks without him. 

Yeah we're effed.  I think he's likely out the first round at the very least, and maybe the 2nd round. Given how he's been hitting this is a massive blow.  He's been one of the best players in the MLB.

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37 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

Oh yeah.  That was annoying and led to our downfall with all our gassed pitchers getting lit up in the NLDS.

I think they would have won the game Shota started that series. Or at least have had a chance to. Shota got rocked early. 

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30 minutes ago, Irrelevant Dude said:

Do they really need to?  It isn't the NBA where guys are throwing elbows under the basket.  As long as he doesn't slide headfirst into a base, the chances of any further contact to the face are incredibly low.

Might be up to him, who knows...

Guess its a matter of will a groundball to the face, or a hard tag on a slide, or anything that might draw contact to his face make it worst.

Once youre playing, especially in a playoff game,  you can't really go easy and try to avoid making certain plays or movements,  like sliding headfirst if you need to.

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1 minute ago, chibears55 said:

Might be up to him, who knows...

Guess its a matter of will a groundball to the face, or a hard tag on a slide, or anything that might draw contact to his face make it worst.

Once youre playing, especially in a playoff game,  you can't really go easy and try to avoid making certain plays or movements,  like sliding headfirst if you need to.

He'll probably DH if we're still playing when he comes back

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2 minutes ago, ILMindState said:

He'll probably DH if we're still playing when he comes back

Yea that would help him alot and may factor in big as to him playing, even in WC round. 

He could be the 2016 Schwarber 😅

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4 minutes ago, ILMindState said:

Good vision gives some hope

I don't get the same vibes. This feels like he ain't coming back.

He has legit skull fractures. Long term health of getting rattled again would be serious.

I hope it's pain management. My guess is it's beyond just that. And if there's anything beyond pain management, the Cubs will likely have to tell him no.

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10 minutes ago, Jason Ross said:

I don't get the same vibes. This feels like he ain't coming back.

He has legit skull fractures. Long term health of getting rattled again would be serious.

I hope it's pain management. My guess is it's beyond just that. And if there's anything beyond pain management, the Cubs will likely have to tell him no.

This is what I think as well. And, as I said, if he did come back it would be weeks away. Cubs don’t have weeks if he isn’t playing. 

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Just now, Tangled Up in Plaid said:

It's hard to believe they would let him play with facial fractures. Best case maybe he could DH

Yeah, the best case is that he's a DH. But even there, they'd have to do something to protect the face. And I'm not sure how you can both:
1. Protect that portion of his face well enough

While also:

2. Giving him enough vision that he can actually react to the type of stuff these guys will be throwing

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