NFL Week 6

[BigbadB]

Jets putting on an offensive clinic in London. The clinic is on how not to run a 2 minute drill. 

[BigbadB]

22 plays, 32 total yards, 2 yards passing. Jets first half. Fields is actually 5-7 for 2 yards. 2 first downs and two field goals. Field goals happened from a Denver fumble in their own territory and a long kick return. 

[Tryptamine]

Fields has to be benched. It's just completely unacceptable to pass for 45 yards

[soccer10k]

14 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

Fields has to be benched. It's just completely unacceptable to pass for 45 yards

Wait so you’re saying it’s bad to be sacked the same number of times as you complete a pass and to lose more yards on sacks that you have passing yards for the game?

[Derwood]

Unban Tom long enough for us to mock his Jets fandom (and then ban him again)

Edited October 12, 2025 by Derwood

[Tryptamine]

I'm going to once again double down on Seattle's HC being a moron for so strictly forcing an alternating running back by committee when Walker consistently outperforms Charbonnet. 

Edited October 12, 2025 by Tryptamine

[BigbadB]

Geno Smith may die a horrific sack today. 

[BigSlick]

Poor Justin Fields, who has to this point, played the best he has in his entire career. He just loses games. Its remarkable. It’s like Eberflus. There’s some sort of metaphysical thing going on. They just do whatever is necessary to lose. 
 

Except today when he was truly, unacceptably, awful.

[gflore34]

38 minutes ago, BigSlick said:

Poor Justin Fields, who has to this point, played the best he has in his entire career. He just loses games. Its remarkable. It’s like Eberflus. There’s some sort of metaphysical thing going on. They just do whatever is necessary to lose. 
 

Except today when he was truly, unacceptably, awful.

I feel bad for him as well, by all accounts a great guy who works his ass off, most definitely deserves better.  However, the cold hard fact is he's unable to function as an effective QB in the NFL, he'll never be able to and it sucks.

[Derwood]

I mean, he had -10 net passing yards today

[Soul]

Lions drew up an illegal play then tried to run it just now.  They didn’t bother to take into account that the QB has to come set after stepping away from the center, before going in motion.  Cost them a TD.

[We Got The Whole 9]

Maye is looking really good - 2nd in comp%, 3rd in success rate, 6th in ypg, 4th in rating, 16th in QBR. Somehow hes taken 18 sacks that have only added up to 55 yards lost. Thats wild.

 

Other observations:

 

Darnold is proving to be no fluke. Jones hasn't hit a wall yet. There are 13 passers with a 100+ rating and Wentz and Mahomes are each over 99. So half of the teams in the league have a QB with a 99+. Thats the new benchmark for average in today's game.

 

Dillon Gabriel has a 100 QBR in 89 attempts. He has a 57% comp, 36% success, 81 rating. How does this make any sense? 

[gflore34]

1 hour ago, We Got The Whole 9 said:

Maye is looking really good - 2nd in comp%, 3rd in success rate, 6th in ypg, 4th in rating, 16th in QBR. Somehow hes taken 18 sacks that have only added up to 55 yards lost. Thats wild.

 

Other observations:

 

Darnold is proving to be no fluke. Jones hasn't hit a wall yet. There are 13 passers with a 100+ rating and Wentz and Mahomes are each over 99. So half of the teams in the league have a QB with a 99+. Thats the new benchmark for average in today's game.

 

Dillon Gabriel has a 100 QBR in 89 attempts. He has a 57% comp, 36% success, 81 rating. How does this make any sense? 

Since ESPN hasn't released or made the formula for QBR public. I don't how you can trust it, any statistician will tell you, given the data.  If one cannot replicate the statistic it shouldn't be taken seriously.  Caleb' numbers >>>>> Gabriel' numbers yet, he has a QBR of 57.5 compared to 100?  Leads me to the conclusion that QBR has a subjective component which means it's a worthless POS as a statistic.  Makes sense, no matter what Caleb does, ESPN doesn't "like" him and never will and, at the end of the day, who gives a horsefeathers if ESPN "likes" you?

Edited October 13, 2025 by gflore34

[I owned a Suzuki]

22 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

Since ESPN hasn't released or made the formula for QBR public. I don't how you can trust it, any statistician will tell you, given the data.  If one cannot replicate the statistic it shouldn't be taken seriously.  Caleb' numbers >>>>> Gabriel' numbers yet, he has a QBR of 57.5 compared to 100?  Leads me to the conclusion that QBR has a subjective component which means it's a worthless POS as a statistic.  Makes sense, no matter what Caleb does, ESPN doesn't "like" him and never will and, at the end of the day, who gives a horsefeathers if ESPN "likes" you?

I am not a statistician or English major. I always think the word rating implies a certain level of subjectivity. When you rate something, even if you use stats to support your rating, your actual rating is still an opinion. 

[CubinNY]

50 minutes ago, I owned a Suzuki said:

I am not a statistician or English major. I always think the word rating implies a certain level of subjectivity. When you rate something, even if you use stats to support your rating, your actual rating is still an opinion. 

Oh, if only more people would realize that. The data are the data; the further away from the actual performance you move, whether it be through math or opinion, the further you are away from objective reality. 

We see it all the time here. When you "normalize" data, you are taking out essential variables that cannot be normalized. It makes comparison easier, but it's also not real (it's hypothetical). Treating it like it is real is a type I error. But most people do not have a grounding in statistics or math and gobble up the values as if they are facts. Don't get me started on using ordinal measures as data. 

[JudasIscariotTheBird]

1 hour ago, CubinNY said:

Oh, if only more people would realize that. The data are the data; the further away from the actual performance you move, whether it be through math or opinion, the further you are away from objective reality. 

We see it all the time here. When you "normalize" data, you are taking out essential variables that cannot be normalized. It makes comparison easier, but it's also not real (it's hypothetical). Treating it like it is real is a type I error. But most people do not have a grounding in statistics or math and gobble up the values as if they are facts. Don't get me started on using ordinal measures as data. 

Total gibberish.

[Derwood]

Falcons just drove down on the Bills like it was nothing

[jumbo]

Doesn't a regression analyis backdoor the QBR rating? There are enough samples out there that the formula should be reproducible

[JudasIscariotTheBird]

2 hours ago, jumbo said:

Doesn't a regression analyis backdoor the QBR rating? There are enough samples out there that the formula should be reproducible

No one cares enough to do it. It's like trying to decipher Papa John's recipe.  Why bother? 

[Derwood]

There's not way Miami's coach makes it to next Sunday, right?

[JudasIscariotTheBird]

Damn, Doug Martin died.  

[Proven Veteran]

3 hours ago, JudasIscariotTheBird said:

Damn, Doug Martin died.  

In police custody, definitely more to come on this one.