Mariners (Kirby) vs Cubs (Boyd): 6/20/25, 1:20pm

[WhyCantWeWin]

Is the wind blowing out today? Or is it only blowing out for the Mariners?

 

[Illiterate Scholar]

6 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

So glad we saved a pen arm by pitching Cabrera

Down 2 in the 9th is low leverage. This is managing in the regular season

[Dfan25]

Tomorrow wind will be blowing 20-21 straight out . Raleigh may hit 3-4 dongs 

[Derwood]

Here comes the fake rally where the difference in the game will be the Genesis homer

[UMFan83]

5 minutes ago, Dfan25 said:

They weren’t coming back anyway , but yeah , Genesis won’t survive in this roster too much longer 

The good news is, the Mariners get to save their closer now so he'll be fresh for the rest of the weekend!

[gflore34]

1 minute ago, UMFan83 said:

Seriously this is wild

1st inning:  Out, Out, Home Run (1 run)

4th inning: Out, Walk, Out, Walk, Single (1 run)

6th inning: Out, Out, Double, HR (2 runs)

7th inning: Out, Out, Single, HR (2 runs)

9th inning: Out, Out, Single, Single, HR (3 runs)

I'm sorry but, if the strike zone didn't shift, the Mariners don't score.  Watch that dipshit call the same pitch a strike in the bottom of the 9th.

[Derwood]

That was not a fun game at all.

[NorthsideAvenger]

17 runs in the last two games. Need to do better.

Time to put up a big number tomorrow, Cubs offense.

Edited June 20, 2025 by NorthsideAvenger

[gflore34]

1 minute ago, Dfan25 said:

Tomorrow wind will be blowing 20-21 straight out . Raleigh may hit 3-4 dongs 

That's OK Cubs may hit 8 themselves.

[PeanutPunch33]

2 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

Yeah, that won't continue, Garver and Solano so fearsome, who would have thought?

Huge bullpen let down game.  Easy for me to say this in retrospect but I wish they let Boyd go for the 6th.  

[javy knows my name]

3 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

Seriously this is wild

1st inning:  Out, Out, Home Run (1 run)

4th inning: Out, Walk, Out, Walk, Single (1 run)

6th inning: Out, Out, Double, HR (2 runs)

7th inning: Out, Out, Single, HR (2 runs)

9th inning: Out, Out, Single, Single, HR (3 runs)

And I think all but one hit came with two outs 

[Dfan25]

1 minute ago, gflore34 said:

That's OK Cubs may hit 8 themselves.

I have Horton on my fantasy team . Probably benching him tomorrow .

[soccer10k]

10 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

Seriously this is wild

1st inning:  Out, Out, Home Run (1 run)

4th inning: Out, Walk, Out, Walk, Single (1 run)

6th inning: Out, Out, Double, HR (2 runs)

7th inning: Out, Out, Single, HR (2 runs)

9th inning: Out, Out, Single, Single, HR (3 runs)

I’m trying to decide what’s more annoying, this or that Mitch Garver hit 2 home runs today despite having a .569 OPS and 1 HR in 129 PAs coming into today.

[BigSlick]

People need to understand that gameday threads are for hyperbole and venting 

so: today is an inexcusably bad loss and is unforgivable etc etc 

and of course I think the cubs are the best team in the league and will win tomorrow 

[gflore34]

19 minutes ago, soccer10k said:

I’m trying to decide what’s more annoying, this or that Mitch Garver hit 2 home runs today despite having a .569 OPS and 1 HR in 129 PAs coming into today.

Definitely Garver, throw in that other clown getting two hits and the ball finding his glove for two DP's.  Take comfort in the facts that what happened today for Solano will never happen again and there's a very slim-no chance Garver will hit 2 HR's in another game for the rest of the season. 

Edited June 20, 2025 by gflore34

[gflore34]

1 minute ago, BigSlick said:

People need to understand that gameday threads are for hyperbole and venting 

so: today is an inexcusably bad loss and is unforgivable etc etc 

and of course I think the cubs are the best team in the league and will win tomorrow 

Me to, they'll win tomorrow, at some point, the fringe garbage bats in the Mariners' lineup will cost them.

[UMFan83]

5 minutes ago, BigSlick said:

People need to understand that gameday threads are for hyperbole and venting 

so: today is an inexcusably bad loss and is unforgivable etc etc 

and of course I think the cubs are the best team in the league and will win tomorrow 

I hear you honestly.  I've been on the venting side of things many times and called out by others.  I've somewhat learned to bury the overreactions or at least keep them to myself, but I'm sure I'll do it again at some point.

But I completely understand the primal need to vent in threads like these when things are going poorly.  I've been on message boards for 20+ years, this debate has happened in every single forum I've been on that has game threads.  

[UMFan83]

Apparently Boyd left the game after 5 because he was hurt making that diving catch.  They didn't seem too concerned about it though.

[Tryptamine]

Cabrera needs to have made his last pitch as a Cub. 

[gflore34]

20 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

Cabrera needs to have made his last pitch as a Cub. 

Think Little is about ready, he's been dominate at Iowa for a while now, have to think he's up to replace Cabrera in near future.

[harmony]

2 hours ago, gflore34 said:

Career 225/308/436 I don't know if that qualifies as really good, he's on heater that much is true.

Since the start of the 2022 season Cal Raleigh ranks ninth among all hitters with an fWAR of 18.3, ahead of Dansby Swanson and Kyle Tucker, among others:

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&month=0&ind=0&startdate=&enddate=&season1=2022&season=2025

Swanson and Tucker made a combined five All Star appearances over that period while Raleigh made none.

Heading into Friday's game, Raleigh had posted 4.4 fWAR in 72 games this season while Pete Crow-Armstrong had posted 4.1 fWAR in 73 games:

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&month=0&ind=0&startdate=&enddate=&season1=2025&season=2025

Edited June 20, 2025 by harmony

[harmony]

2 hours ago, gflore34 said:

Me to, they'll win tomorrow, at some point, the fringe garbage bats in the Mariners' lineup will cost them.

Despite the "fringe garbage bats in the Mariners' lineup," Seattle ranks second in the American League with a team OPS+ of 111:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL/2025.shtml

Edited June 20, 2025 by harmony

[Backtobanks]

11 minutes ago, harmony said:

Since the start of the 2022 season Cal Raleigh ranks ninth among all hitters with an fWAR of 18.3, ahead of Dansby Swanson and Kyle Tucker, among others:

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&month=0&ind=0&startdate=&enddate=&season1=2022&season=2025

Heading into Friday's game, Raleigh had posted 4.4 fWAR in 72 games this season while Pete Crow-Armstrong had posted 4.1 fWAR in 73 games:

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&month=0&ind=0&startdate=&enddate=&season1=2025&season=2025

Shame on you for using facts to point out that there are other players having amazing seasons and other good teams on the Cubs message board.

[gflore34]

1 hour ago, harmony said:

Since the start of the 2022 season Cal Raleigh ranks ninth among all hitters with an fWAR of 18.3, ahead of Dansby Swanson and Kyle Tucker, among others:

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&month=0&ind=0&startdate=&enddate=&season1=2022&season=2025

Swanson and Tucker made a combined five All Star appearances over that period while Raleigh made none.

Heading into Friday's game, Raleigh had posted 4.4 fWAR in 72 games this season while Pete Crow-Armstrong had posted 4.1 fWAR in 73 games:

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&month=0&ind=0&startdate=&enddate=&season1=2025&season=2025

Like I said, I stand corrected, Raleigh is greatest hitting catcher ever, better than Josh Gibson, better than Johnny Bench, Campanella, Berra, etc.  But, seriously, I just took a cursory look, fact is, he's very good.  Will he be able to maintain this pace and continue catching over the long season?

Edited June 20, 2025 by gflore34

[gflore34]

32 minutes ago, harmony said:

The "fringe garbage bats in the Mariners' lineup" have helped Seattle rank second in the American League with a team OPS+ of 111:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL/2025.shtml

I was referring to Garver and Solano, I'm guessing their combined OPS+ is less than 111.  I was close, it's 116 combined for those two.

Edited June 20, 2025 by gflore34