Pete Crow-Armstrong Appreciation Thread

[imb]

Hey what the hell is this guy's ceiling exactly

more homers than juan soto

more RBI than bryce harper

more runs than lindor

more sb than anyone besides oneil cruz

higher wRC+ than SHOHEI OHTANI

oh he has the second-most def WAR in baseball and is a top 5 most fun guy to watch in the league

What the horsefeathers do we have on our hands

 

 

 

[squally1313]

Can someone do the white Michael Vick video game face thing but with Griffey

[jersey cubs fan]

He’d look good next to Tucker for next 7 years then slide over when the old man goes DH. 

[Rob]

Yesterday was actually PCA's 162nd big league game.

So far, in 540 PA, he's put up a .242/.294/.408 slash line with 15 HR and 39 SB (6 CS). Plus 22 doubles and 7 triples. With his baserunning and defense, that's been worth 3.8 rWAR or 4.2 fWAR, depending on which measure you trust more.

[Andy]

He only needed to hit like an OK catcher to be a valuable player because of everything else. If he hits like this, he's an MVP player.

And his swag is off the charts, which doesn't earn you any WAR but absolutely is part of why the fans all love him so much already.

Edited April 24, 2025 by Andy

[Clem Fandango]

He is without a doubt filling the void Javy left behind in terms of entertainment value.  If Jed can lock him and Tucker up long term I'll barf a fart in excitement.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Currently #3 in MLB in fWAR 😍

[Derwood]

All we had to give up for him was the decaying corpse of Javy Baez

[Bertz]

I don't think he'll keep hitting like *this*, but i do think if you were setting an over/under on his wRC+ at this point it'd certainly be north of 100.  And with his speed and defense a league average bat was all that was needed for All Star caliber production.

And yeah, from the watchability even far outpaces the value.  He's a star in every sense of the word.

[WhyCantWeWin]

Trade him for Luis Robert tbh

[We Got The Whole 9]

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[Chicago Al]

Hope we can extend him and lock him up before he becomes too expensive.

[Outshined_One]

2 hours ago, Derwood said:

All we had to give up for him was the decaying corpse of Javy Baez

It's like we traded Old Javy for New Javy.

[Bull]

3 hours ago, We Got The Whole 9 said:

Perfect Chicago Ambassador

Premium Caliber Athlete

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Peachy Cheeks All-Star

Punisher of Corporal Assault

I like this Al Sharpton version of you.

[WrigleyField 22]

3 hours ago, Outshined_One said:

It's like we traded Old Javy for New Javy.

Only two Cubs jerseys I've bought (plenty of shirtseys) 

[JunkyardWalrus]

6 hours ago, Derwood said:

All we had to give up for him was the decaying corpse of Javy Baez

And the back of rotation pitcher, I forget his name. probably Scott

[sweetpeteman]

2 hours ago, JunkyardWalrus said:

And the back of rotation pitcher, I forget his name. probably Scott

Trevor Williams. Currently has a 5.11 ERA for the Nats as a starter.

[Stratos]

This day will live in infamy.  Current MLB leaders in WAR:

[We Got The Whole 9]

He got a fg article 

 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/d-d-dont-stop-the-pete/

[musclemom]

Principal Component Analysis

[squally1313]

Lot of potential comps mentioned in the article but I haven't really found one I love yet.

• Lorenzo Cain - maxed out at 16 HRs and 30 SBs, there's a very real chance PCA eclipses both of those this year, but Cain was much better at putting the ball in play/getting on base
• Kiermeyer - PCA is a better hitter and faster
• JBJ - PCA is a better defender and much faster
• Ellsbury - Just a different hitter and probably faster than PCA. Only had double digit HRs twice (including 32 in a 9.5 fWAR year), but career 13.7% K rate
• Granderson - Has more power and less speed/defense than PCA, really more of a power hitter with some stolen bases early in his career
• Sizemore - Wanted this one really bad but he had pretty consistent double digit walk rates. Pretty insane how short his run was, just four years with over 4 fWAR
• Andruw Jones - Better defender, better hitter. 

[Clem Fandango]

17 minutes ago, squally1313 said:

Lot of potential comps mentioned in the article but I haven't really found one I love yet.

• Lorenzo Cain - maxed out at 16 HRs and 30 SBs, there's a very real chance PCA eclipses both of those this year, but Cain was much better at putting the ball in play/getting on base
• Kiermeyer - PCA is a better hitter and faster
• JBJ - PCA is a better defender and much faster
• Ellsbury - Just a different hitter and probably faster than PCA. Only had double digit HRs twice (including 32 in a 9.5 fWAR year), but career 13.7% K rate
• Granderson - Has more power and less speed/defense than PCA, really more of a power hitter with some stolen bases early in his career
• Sizemore - Wanted this one really bad but he had pretty consistent double digit walk rates. Pretty insane how short his run was, just four years with over 4 fWAR
• Andruw Jones - Better defender, better hitter. 

I can think of so many players that parts of his game remind me of, but no one player where it all comes together to match perfectly in respects to baserunning, positional defense, and offense.  If he could get his BB% into double digits, making comps would be a lot easier, but all the players I can think of that come close to his production levels are all better at BB% than him, or he eclipses them in other aspects like baserunning or defense.  There's no easy comp, you really have to three-headed-monster his comparisons

 

[jb10194]

44 minutes ago, squally1313 said:

Lot of potential comps mentioned in the article but I haven't really found one I love yet.

• Lorenzo Cain - maxed out at 16 HRs and 30 SBs, there's a very real chance PCA eclipses both of those this year, but Cain was much better at putting the ball in play/getting on base
• Kiermeyer - PCA is a better hitter and faster
• JBJ - PCA is a better defender and much faster
• Ellsbury - Just a different hitter and probably faster than PCA. Only had double digit HRs twice (including 32 in a 9.5 fWAR year), but career 13.7% K rate
• Granderson - Has more power and less speed/defense than PCA, really more of a power hitter with some stolen bases early in his career
• Sizemore - Wanted this one really bad but he had pretty consistent double digit walk rates. Pretty insane how short his run was, just four years with over 4 fWAR
• Andruw Jones - Better defender, better hitter. 

Is Carlos Beltran a good comparison? I can't remember how good his defense was, but he won 3 gold gloves.

[Jason Ross]

1 minute ago, jb10194 said:

Is Carlos Beltran a good comparison? I can't remember how good his defense was, but he won 3 gold gloves.

Far too much contact. Career K% around 16%

[squally1313]

2 minutes ago, Clem Fandango said:

I can think of so many players that parts of his game remind me of, but no one player where it all comes together to match perfectly in respects to baserunning, positional defense, and offense.  If he could get his BB% into double digits, making comps would be a lot easier, but all the players I can think of that come close to his production levels are all better at BB% than him, or he eclipses them in other aspects like baserunning or defense.  There's no easy comp, you really have to three-headed-monster his comparisons

 

Yeah, you sort CFs since 1990 by best defensive season and you get some of the same names. I think ultimately the issue is like, he has a 145 wRC and so you want to throw out guys like Devon White. But he's also overperofmring his xwOBA by like 70 points, because pretty much everyone else in history with wRCs over 140 are a lot better at walking and not striking out. Corey Patterson if he never got hurt is kinda deflating, but maybe?