Winter Meetings thread

[SouthSideRyan]

5 hours ago, CubinNY said:

I absolutely love that Jed and company thinks their ****** offense that will become a truck stop toilet after Taco Bell buy one get one free when they trade Bellinger and or Nico is enough to win if they can only find more journeymen relievers looking for short contracts. 

[Crusader]

3 hours ago, jersey cubs fan said:

You sound like an abuse victim unaware of reality

You sound like MAGA supporter willing to believe anything the orange man says. If so, I've got some Trump bibles, digital trading cards, and assassination sneakers I could send your way. All for the low price of 51 million a year.

Edited December 10, 2024 by Crusader

[Crusader]

3 hours ago, Tryptamine said:

Who are these two players who are going to give you a cumulative 180 wRC+, please do share.

vs LHP (174) - Juan Soto was 11th last year for people with over 100 ABs - behind Aaron Judge, Heliot Ramos, Tyler O'Neil, Jose Ramirez, Yordan Alvarez, Ketel Marte, Zach Neto, Jose Iglesias, Jose Altuve, and David Fry.

vs RHP (182) - Juan Soto was 4th for people with over 100 ABs - behind Aaron Judge, Ohtani, Kyle Tucker, 

Spending 2 minutes checking, you could basically replace his wRC+ from last year by trading for Ketel Marte vs LHP and Matt Walner vs RHP. And you wouldn't be paying them a combined average of 51 million a year for 15 years to not play a horsefeathers position.

Edited December 10, 2024 by Crusader

[Tank]

FWIW, an email was sent out to STHs offering them a chance to purchase their seats which will be removed this off-season. More Wrigley renovations means more shopping from the bargain bin. 

[17 Seconds]

4 hours ago, Crusader said:

You sound like MAGA supporter willing to believe anything the orange man says. If so, I've got some Trump bibles, digital trading cards, and assassination sneakers I could send your way. All for the low price of 51 million a year.

what in the world 

[thawv]

12 hours ago, Donzo said:

Was it posted mid season? If it's new info, then no. Amaya hits like an extreme LHH, so Thais being LLH is irrelevant.

It was posted yesterday after the Kelly news.  I'm a fan of Amaya, and I can't imagine DFA'ing him is something the Cubs would even consider. 

Edited December 10, 2024 by thawv

[thawv]

12 hours ago, Bertz said:

 

I don't think it says anything about the magnitude of the moves, moreso the timing, but the way these guys are talking is night and day from last year's meetings

This is code for, "we didn't make any off season moves because nothing made sense for us." 

[CubinNY]

Did Jed end the interview by saying he has to leave to call his girlfriend in Canada? 

[Rex Buckingham]

6 hours ago, Crusader said:

vs LHP (174) - Juan Soto was 11th last year for people with over 100 ABs - behind Aaron Judge, Heliot Ramos, Tyler O'Neil, Jose Ramirez, Yordan Alvarez, Ketel Marte, Zach Neto, Jose Iglesias, Jose Altuve, and David Fry.

vs RHP (182) - Juan Soto was 4th for people with over 100 ABs - behind Aaron Judge, Ohtani, Kyle Tucker, 

Spending 2 minutes checking, you could basically replace his wRC+ from last year by trading for Ketel Marte vs LHP and Matt Walner vs RHP. And you wouldn't be paying them a combined average of 51 million a year for 15 years to not play a horsefeathers position.

ah yes, the face of the Diamondbacks franchise who put up almost 7 WAR last year and is owed $59M over the next 4 years... surely he's available!

[Rcal10]

How would Pablo Lopez look as a guy to slot into the 3rd slot in the rotation? He has 3 more years to his deal and is getting $18M-$18.5M a year. Twins are said to be cutting payroll. Is that someone that would be a good get? What would he cost? Give them back Assad and a prospect. But how much does it have to hurt? Or is he not someone worth discussing? 

[Transmogrified Tiger]

4 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

How would Pablo Lopez look as a guy to slot into the 3rd slot in the rotation? He has 3 more years to his deal and is getting $18M-$18.5M a year. Twins are said to be cutting payroll. Is that someone that would be a good get? What would he cost? Give them back Assad and a prospect. But how much does it have to hurt? Or is he not someone worth discussing? 

Lopez's deal is backloaded so the AAV for the Cubs would be 21.75.  He's a good pitcher and worth pursuing but it's unclear how motivated the Twins will be to make a deal for him(instead of clearing other salaries) unless you make it extra worth their while.

[Cuzi]

Hard for me to believe the Twins are going to be trading any players to reduce payroll. Maybe Buxton. They don't have any really high priced players besides Correa and they are willing to listen on offers but don't sound very motivated to move him and if they aren't motivated to move Correa then I can't see who they would be trading in a payroll cut.

[Irrelevant Dude]

1 hour ago, Rex Buckingham said:

ah yes, the face of the Diamondbacks franchise who put up almost 7 WAR last year and is owed $59M over the next 4 years... surely he's available!

 

[We Got The Whole 9]

1 hour ago, thawv said:

This is code for, "we didn't make any off season moves because nothing made sense for us." 

No, it's called using common sense. For months this has been obvious. There is no spot to add a FA bat unless they trade a position player, they have 6 top prospects in AAA and only one is a pitcher. I've been saying it for months but Alcantara is likely going to be the centerpiece of a major trade for a SP. The Cubs don't want him wasting away on the bench, he has too high of a ceiling, and although he hasn't hit for a ton of power he has produced at every level and teams salivate over these monstrous physical specimen that they can develop. I'm sure he has a ton of value. Throw him in a deal with Wicks or Horton and go big.

 

I'll be really surprised if Jed doesn't make a major trade. 

[Transmogrified Tiger]

3 minutes ago, Cuzi said:

Hard for me to believe the Twins are going to be trading any players to reduce payroll. Maybe Buxton. They don't have any really high priced players besides Correa and they are willing to listen on offers but don't sound very motivated to move him and if they aren't motivated to move Correa then I can't see who they would be trading in a payroll cut.

They are widely reported to need to cut salary before making any additions since they’re one of the teams in limbo with their TV deal.  They’ll try to offload Vazquez and Paddack first, but Vazquez is very underwater and Paddack’s injury history may scare off the small market teams that might see him more palatable than FA options.

[Cuzi]

We've been talking about Kyle Tucker for a while on here. It made sense that he would be available in trade but not confirmed. Well, it was just confirmed. The question remains on just how serious that availability is. Like are we talking fair offer or more than the Yankees gave up for 1 year of Soto? But if there was 1 player that Jed could point at and say this is why we didn't think Juan Soto was a good organizational move, it's Tucker.

[We Got The Whole 9]

1 minute ago, TomtheBombadil said:

No thank you, please stop selling low on players as if the farm isn’t known for depth and perpetually overstated 

Trades like that happen. 1 big piece, another former prospect with a little tarnish, and another top 10 guy. I know you believe Wicks is underrated but this is probably selling fairly on him. He's intriguing but doesn't appear to have enough tricks in the bag, he doesn't profile well for the pen, the Cubs have 4 SP ahead of him and are trying to add a 5th. Don't you think he's already on the bubble? 

[thawv]

19 minutes ago, We Got The Whole 9 said:

No, it's called using common sense. For months this has been obvious. There is no spot to add a FA bat unless they trade a position player, they have 6 top prospects in AAA and only one is a pitcher. I've been saying it for months but Alcantara is likely going to be the centerpiece of a major trade for a SP. The Cubs don't want him wasting away on the bench, he has too high of a ceiling, and although he hasn't hit for a ton of power he has produced at every level and teams salivate over these monstrous physical specimen that they can develop. I'm sure he has a ton of value. Throw him in a deal with Wicks or Horton and go big.

 

I'll be really surprised if Jed doesn't make a major trade. 

My statement applies if he doesn't make a major trade, or sign a top FA.   So no, it's not common sense to not sign  anybody to improve the team, or make trades to improve the team.  It's terrible management. 

[thawv]

10 minutes ago, We Got The Whole 9 said:

Trades like that happen. 1 big piece, another former prospect with a little tarnish, and another top 10 guy. I know you believe Wicks is underrated but this is probably selling fairly on him. He's intriguing but doesn't appear to have enough tricks in the bag, he doesn't profile well for the pen, the Cubs have 4 SP ahead of him and are trying to add a 5th. Don't you think he's already on the bubble? 

They have 5 SP ahead of him, and likely another one coming, and maybe 2 more. 

[LBiittner]

27 minutes ago, We Got The Whole 9 said:

No, it's called using common sense. For months this has been obvious. There is no spot to add a FA bat unless they trade a position player, they have 6 top prospects in AAA and only one is a pitcher. I've been saying it for months but Alcantara is likely going to be the centerpiece of a major trade for a SP. The Cubs don't want him wasting away on the bench, he has too high of a ceiling, and although he hasn't hit for a ton of power he has produced at every level and teams salivate over these monstrous physical specimen that they can develop. I'm sure he has a ton of value. Throw him in a deal with Wicks or Horton and go big.

 

I'll be really surprised if Jed doesn't make a major trade. 

I thought for sure Alcantara was going to be moved, then someone here pointed out he has another option year. I wouldn't be surprised if Jed hangs on to him 

[Rcal10]

38 minutes ago, Cuzi said:

Hard for me to believe the Twins are going to be trading any players to reduce payroll. Maybe Buxton. They don't have any really high priced players besides Correa and they are willing to listen on offers but don't sound very motivated to move him and if they aren't motivated to move Correa then I can't see who they would be trading in a payroll cut.

It is being reported they need to cut payroll. Sure, Correa and Paddock would be the guys they might rather trade. But if they can’t, Lopez also makes a lot of money. My question wasn’t “would the Twins trade Lopez”. My question was if they were going to trade him what would he cost and is he worth it? 
 

[Cuzi]

12 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

It is being reported they need to cut payroll. Sure, Correa and Paddock would be the guys they might rather trade. But if they can’t, Lopez also makes a lot of money. My question wasn’t “would the Twins trade Lopez”. My question was if they were going to trade him what would he cost and is he worth it? 
 

I dont care what your question was. I wasn't attempting to answer it.

[Rcal10]

19 minutes ago, Cuzi said:

I dont care what your question was. I wasn't attempting to answer it.

Then why answer at all.

[gocubs218]

 

[Cuzi]

6 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

Then why answer at all.

I made a reply with recent information on the alleged cost cutting of the Twins. There are fresh rumors about them getting calls on Correa but a strong hesitance to trade him. I dont know about you, but if I was forced to dump good players making a lot of money, a SS with plantar fasciitis in both feet making $33M a year is at the top of my list to trade. But they arent just looking to shed payroll. They are apparently looking to shed dead weight.

I didn't quote you. I didn't attempt to answer your Pablo Lopez what if. So dont quote me and come back with some "that wasn't my question" horsefeathers.