College Football - Week 14 (Nov. 30)

[Andy]

Top 25 games

Washington at (1) Oregon (7:30 pm, NBC)

Michigan at (2) Ohio State (12 pm, FOX)

(3) Texas at (20) Texas A&M (7:30 pm, ABC)

Maryland at (4) Penn State (3:30 pm, BTN - Regional)

(5) Notre Dame at USC (3:30 pm, CBS)

(6) Miami at Syracuse (3:30 pm, ESPN)

Georgia Tech at (7) Georgia (7:30 pm Friday, ABC)

(8) Tennessee at Vanderbilt (12 pm, ABC)

California at (9) SMU (3:30 pm, ESPN2)

Purdue at (10) Indiana (7 pm, FS1)

Oregon State at (11) Boise State (12 pm Friday, FOX)

(15) South Carolina at (12) Clemson (12 pm, ESPN)

Auburn at (13) Alabama (3:30 pm, ABC)

Mississippi State at (14) Ole Miss (3:30 pm Friday, ABC)

(16) Arizona State at Arizona (3:30 pm, FOX)

Memphis at (17) Tulane (7:30 pm Thursday, ESPN)

(24) Kansas State at (18) Iowa State (7:30 pm, FOX)

Houston at (19) BYU (10:15 pm, ESPN)

Arkansas at (21) Missouri (3:30 pm, SEC Network)

Nevada at (22) UNLV (8 pm, CBSSN)

(23) Illinois at Northwestern - at Wrigley Field (12 pm, BTN)

Oklahoma State at (25) Colorado (12 pm Friday, ABC)

 

Other nationally available games
Tuesday

Toledo at Akron (7 pm, ESPN2)

Kent State at Buffalo (7 pm, ESPN+)

Friday

Minnesota at Wisconsin (12 pm, CBS)

Navy at East Carolina (12 pm, ESPN2)

Miami (OH) at Bowling Green (12 pm, ESPNU)

Ball State at Ohio (12 pm, CBSSN) 

Utah State at Colorado State (3:30 pm, FS1)

Liberty at Sam Houston (3:30 pm, CBSSN)

Texas State at South Alabama (3:30 pm, ESPN+)

Stanford at San Jose State (4 pm, CBS)

Nebraska at Iowa (7:30 pm, NBC)

Utah at UCF (8 pm, FOX)

Saturday TV

Kansas at Baylor (12 pm, ESPN2)

West Virginia at Texas Tech (12 pm, FS1)

UL Lafayette at UL Monroe (12 pm, ESPNU)

Louisville at Kentucky (12 pm, SEC Network)

Duke at Wake Forest (12 pm, ACC Network)

UTSA at Army (12 pm, CBSSN)

Pittsburgh at Boston College (3 pm, CW)

Rutgers at Michigan State (3:30 pm, FS1)

Fresno State at UCLA (3:30 pm, BTN - Regional)

NC State at North Carolina (3:30 pm, ACC Network)

Central Michigan at Northern Illinois (3:30 pm, CBSSN)  

Jacksonville State at Western Kentucky (4 pm, ESPNU)

Wyoming at Washington State (6:30 pm, CW)

Oklahoma at LSU (7 pm, ESPN)

Florida at Florida State (7 pm, ESPN2)

Marshall at James Madison (8 pm, ESPNU)

Virginia at Virginia Tech (8 pm, ACC Network)

Air Force at San Diego State (10:30 pm, FS1)

 

Saturday Streaming (all ESPN+)

North Texas at Temple (12 pm)

UConn at UMass (12 pm)

Eastern Michigan at Western Michigan (1:30 pm)  

Coastal Carolina at Georgia State (2 pm)

Middle Tennessee at FIU (2 pm)

Southern Miss at Troy (2 pm)

South Florida at Rice (2 pm)

Old Dominion at Arkansas State (3 pm)

Florida Atlantic at Tulsa (3:30 pm)

UAB at Charlotte (3:30 pm)

Kennesaw State at Louisiana Tech (4 pm)

UTEP at New Mexico State (4 pm)

Appalachian State at Georgia Southern (6 pm)

TCU at Cincinnati (6 pm)

Edited November 27, 2024 by Andy

[CubinNY]

Go Michigan

Go USC

Go Vaderbilt

Go aTM

Go Ga Tech

[Brian707]

TIL that there is no way Notre Dame can get a first round bye because they don't play in a conference. I know they probably don't deserve one but had they smoked Northern rather than lose I would imagine this would be a bigger story.

Boise ST getting a potential bye is hilarious. Granted I don't follow CFB like most of you but I was just reading up on it.

[Andy]

7 minutes ago, Brian707 said:

TIL that there is no way Notre Dame can get a first round bye because they don't play in a conference. I know they probably don't deserve one but had they smoked Northern rather than lose I would imagine this would be a bigger story.

Boise ST getting a potential bye is hilarious. Granted I don't follow CFB like most of you but I was just reading up on it.

You're far from the only one. Every article I read with a projected bracket has at least one person expressing their shock that the likes of SMU would be seeded #3 ahead of a 1-loss Ohio State or Oregon. The format definitely is an adjustment.

The funny (not really) thing about it is it's probably only going to last 2 years, because a new contract takes effect for the 2026 season and it's an open secret the B1G and SEC are going to rig the format for themselves (more auto-bids for themselves, expanding it to 14 and guaranteeing themselves the only 2 byes, etc.)

[Derwood]

Ohio State is sitting in the best spot in the CFP (assuming tonight's rankings shake out like I think they will)

 

Assuming OSU gets #5, they will play #12 (at home), likely a horsefeathers team like Arizona St.

 

Then they play #4 (neutral site), which right now is Boise State

 

That feels like a total cake walk to the final four

 

In the meantime, Oregon's reward for being #1 (besides the first round bye) is a neutral site game with...Georgia? LOL

[CubColtPacer]

We went from wondering what the committee was going to do with the SEC to wondering what they do with the ACC.  How far does a Miami/SMU title game loser (if they both win this weekend) drop?  Does Clemson leapfrog Indiana with a win over South Carolina? 

Those seem to be the key questions other than does South Carolina jump Alabama/Ole Miss with a win over Clemson which would only matter based on the results of the first question.

[Andy]

17 minutes ago, CubColtPacer said:

We went from wondering what the committee was going to do with the SEC to wondering what they do with the ACC.  How far does a Miami/SMU title game loser (if they both win this weekend) drop?  Does Clemson leapfrog Indiana with a win over South Carolina? 

Those seem to be the key questions other than does South Carolina jump Alabama/Ole Miss with a win over Clemson which would only matter based on the results of the first question.

I suspect the ACC is now getting 2 teams in unless some carnage occurs. (Which it may still.)

The Clemson/IU debate, if it happens, will be quite interesting. S Carolina would be Clemson's most impressive win, and by a decent margin. But then again, IU hasn't beaten anyone more likely than not to finish better than .500.

[CubColtPacer]

9 hours ago, Andy said:

I suspect the ACC is now getting 2 teams in unless some carnage occurs. (Which it may still.)

The Clemson/IU debate, if it happens, will be quite interesting. S Carolina would be Clemson's most impressive win, and by a decent margin. But then again, IU hasn't beaten anyone more likely than not to finish better than .500.

And that's where I think timing makes it interesting.  If Clemson jumps Indiana (which I think is less than 50% even with a Clemson win, but is still very possible), it would be this week.  If Miami/SMU also win, that would make it Miami/SMU/Clemson/Indiana.

If Miami or SMU then lost a close game in the championship game, how does the committee handle that?  Do they drop them below both Clemson and Indiana, or do they reward them for playing in that game in the first place?

So my question is I guess if there's a way that the ACC gets 3 teams in.

I still think Indiana gets in, but it's not nearly as much of a slam dunk as it was.  And the oddsmakers agree.  It was 18 to 1 yesterday afternoon for them to miss the playoffs, and now it's down to 11 to 1.  Which is still incredibly likely, but I think they still need one more result to feel secure.

My guess is that the Miami/SMU loser doesn't drop any further than behind Indiana.  So I think the teams behind that are going to need further carnage to be able to make it.

Of course, A&M could still steal a bid and make it even tighter.

[cwood218]

Perhaps I missed one somewhere but I don't see a 3 loss team jumping an 11-1 Indiana. However due to IU's schedule it is easy to see a 2 loss team like Clemson jumping them.

Indiana played one real team this year and lost, bad.

No offense to Michigan fan, but they weren't what you usually expect this year. Of course they won't care as much as usual since they are still smiling with glee as they polish that nice trophy from last year.

 

 

[gflore34]

Is Alabama still a possibility?  Even in the remotest?  Because, I believe if there's even the slightest case to justify Alabama' inclusion, it'll happen.

Edited November 27, 2024 by gflore34

[Andy]

33 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

Is Alabama still a possibility?  Even in the remotest?  Because, I believe if there's even the slightest case to justify Alabama' inclusion, it'll happen.

They are currently the 2nd team out. It's not at all impossible. However, with Clemson (the first team out) and S Carolina (just a few spots back) playing each other, the winner of that game could be in a better position than Bama. It'd be quite the needle to thread.

[Omar]

I kind of want to snag a ticket for Illinois Northwestern at Wrigley today, but I don't feel like sitting outside in 26°

[Andy]

It won't be, but I'd love it if yesterday's Georgia game was a tipping point towards fans being done with conference employed officials in games where the conference has a clear financial incentive for one outcome. There were some very suspicious and very pivotal decisions last night that overwhelmingly favored Georgia, which had to win to remain in at-large position.

[CubinNY]

That FG would have been good from 70

[Derwood]

Gus Johnson's brain just broke

[javy knows my name]

What an absolute trash game haha

[Derwood]

Last year's Michigan team would be up by 3 TD's at this point

[CubinNY]

Wow! UMFan must be pissing himself. 

[Derwood]

LOLOLOL

All Penn State has to do now is beat Maryland and they're in the B1G title game

[jersey cubs fan]

Still cannot believe Ohio State lets this just for men ad run their football program 

[Soul]

Glad I happened to turn this game on.  Holy moly.

[Tryptamine]

It's a damn shame Illinois lost that Minnesota game earlier this year. They win that and they're probably ranked in the 14-17 range. 

[Derwood]

Does OSU fall far enough to end up with a road game in the first round of the CFP?

[bukie]

Objectively, what does this do for Ohio State?

Well, now they can't win the B1G and get the 1 seed. How far do they fall?

Hard to put them behind Indiana.
Whoever loses Texas-Georgia will probably be behind Ohio State
Whoever loses Oregon-PSU/Indiana will probably be behind Ohio State
Whoever loses Miami-SMU will be behind Ohio State

So effectively, we're looking at:

1. B1G winner
2. SEC winner
3. ACC winner
4. Boise State (MWC winner)
5. Notre Dame (assuming a win today)
6. Ohio State
7. Tennessee
8. B1G champ loser
9. SEC champ loser
10. Indiana
11. Oh great it's going to be Alabama isn't it, maybe ACC champ loser?
12. B12 winner

Edited November 30, 2024 by bukie

[Derwood]

Indiana can still make the B1G title game if Penn State loses today (and Indiana wins)

Edited November 30, 2024 by Derwood