Week 8 - Bears (4-2) @ Commanders (5-2), 3:25 p.m. Sunday 10/27

[Wilson A2000]

34 minutes ago, SpongeWorthy said:

is Stevenson doing HITS here 
 

 

Got burned on a long play, had a personal foul, taunted the Commanders’ fans while the ball was hiked, and tipped the ball backwards to lose the game. Quite the Sunday!

Edited October 28, 2024 by Wilson A2000

[UMFan83]

That's gotta be like what the 5th game Eberflus has lost with a win probability in the 4th quarter of over 95%?

2022 Lions (blew 24-10 4th quarter lead)

2023 Broncos (blew 28-7 3rd quarter lead)

2023 Lions (blew 26-14 4th quarter lead with 3 mins left)

2023 Browns (blew 17-7 4th quarter lead with 12:30 left)

2024 Commanders (blew 15-12 lead on a hail mary)

And that doesnt even include games where the Bears didn't blow a lead but were 1-2 plays from winning like 2022 Commanders (1st and goal from the 3 in final seconds and can't score to win).

They've pulled a couple wins from losses too I suppose like the Texans game with Roquan Smith's INT to set up FG or the MNF Vikings game last year with the last second FG after Justin fumbled it away 2 possessions in a row, but damn that's a bad track record.

[Old Style]

I’m still horsefeathers pissed. I really dislike this coaching staff. Flus is a great defensive coordinator (although the horrible way they played the Hail Mary makes me hesitate to say that) but he’s a moron as a head coach. Waldron sucks as an OC. But still in the end, two blatant uncalled holds and a block in the back are the only reason Daniels even had a chance to throw the ball. 

Edited October 28, 2024 by Old Style

[Irrelevant Dude]

9 minutes ago, Old Style said:

But still in the end, two blatant uncalled holds and a block in the back are the only reason Daniels even had a chance to throw the ball. 

I can't get upset about that.  When's the last time you have seen a hold called on a hail mary?  Those aren't going to get called.

[SpongeWorthy]

3 minutes ago, Irrelevant Dude said:

I can't get upset about that.  When's the last time you have seen a hold called on a hail mary?  Those aren't going to get called.

if they’re not going to call anything I would’ve liked our defensive guru head coach to use one of our three timeouts to remind his DBs to mug the receivers, amongst some other salient coaching points like making sure 29 isn’t olaying grabass for the first 4 seconds of the play 

[Old Style]

6 minutes ago, Irrelevant Dude said:

I can't get upset about that.  When's the last time you have seen a hold called on a hail mary?  Those aren't going to get called.

That’s horse horsefeathers. If it’s a hold, throw the horsefeathers flag. It literally cost the team a conference win that could matter come playoff time. 

[Wilson A2000]

5 minutes ago, Old Style said:

That’s horse horsefeathers. If it’s a hold, throw the horsefeathers flag. It literally cost the team a conference win that could matter come playoff time. 

The flag is only going to be thrown if the hold is within feet of the QB and the defender gets dragged down on a hail mary

[UMFan83]

what in the world?

[UMFan83]

7 minutes ago, Old Style said:

That’s horse horsefeathers. If it’s a hold, throw the horsefeathers flag. It literally cost the team a conference win that could matter come playoff time. 

I mean I agree in theory but I’m not particularly upset about that not being called because I don’t expect it to be called since it never is. 

[Irrelevant Dude]

7 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

what in the world?

Tony Romo saw it coming a mile away, so why do you just let them do it?  All you have to do is take away the sidelines.

They literally didn't have enough time to do ANYTHING else there, but Eberflus is going to defend not even attempting to take away the one play that could hurt them?

Edited October 28, 2024 by Irrelevant Dude

[Irrelevant Dude]

8 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

I mean I agree in theory but I’m not particularly upset about that not being called because I don’t expect it to be called since it never is. 

Yeah, that's what I meant too.  At the same time, if a defender interferes with the receiver, the refs are going to be more willing to blow the whistle.  Sure, it's a double standard and a penalty should be a penalty, but that just isn't the way they officiate the games.

[Wilson A2000]

16 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

what in the world?

He doesn’t like to ever criticize players or game decisions in his media comments even when it makes his players, staff, or himself look like fools by the way he justifies it

[bukie]

This play looks bad for Stevenson:

https://bsky.app/profile/oldtakesexposed.bsky.social/post/3l7jvton6za2i

[Soul]

Dude wasn’t even paying attention to the play as the ball was snapped.

 

oh I’m sorry but no way he should play after that.  A minimum requirement of the job is to have your body turned towards the other team.  Bench him.

Flus is the worst.  He just gives them the yardage to put them in position.  Someone explain please, why is he still our HC??

[raw]

I understand the emotion of losing a game on a Hail Mary, but maybe sleep it off a bit?

Like they aren't going to fire Eberflus because he's 4-3 with a miracle loss, when the team has only been trying for 7 games, all with a rookie QB. He's still the coach because he still hasn't allowed more than 21 points in now 15 games, which is his primary job. Obviously, he needs to be better at decision making. But there are several coaches who are bad at gameday decisions.

Kyle Shanahan has had multiple, very public coaching failures. Detroit lost a chance at a SB in part due to coaching decisions. Zac Taylor made a SB and is atrocious in-game. McCarthy is trash and has a SB ring. 

Stevenson isn't going to get cut and probably not benched. He's a 2nd round pick who has been slightly below to slightly above average so far in his career. He screwed up. So did several other players. 

Bottom line, if Caleb is the guy, he will be able to carry Eberflus to success. Caleb didn't play well today, but he also led 2 go ahead TD drives in the 4th quarter (one taken away by a somehow worse GL call than a speed option). If not for the miracle play, nobody is calling for Flus' or Stevenson's jobs.

[Soul]

I’m going to sleep it off but you understand, many of us called for Flub’s head last offseason and I for one am still bitter about that.  It’s not just about this game.

[Wilson A2000]

16 minutes ago, raw said:

I understand the emotion of losing a game on a Hail Mary, but maybe sleep it off a bit?

Like they aren't going to fire Eberflus because he's 4-3 with a miracle loss, when the team has only been trying for 7 games, all with a rookie QB. He's still the coach because he still hasn't allowed more than 21 points in now 15 games, which is his primary job. Obviously, he needs to be better at decision making. But there are several coaches who are bad at gameday decisions.

Kyle Shanahan has had multiple, very public coaching failures. Detroit lost a chance at a SB in part due to coaching decisions. Zac Taylor made a SB and is atrocious in-game. McCarthy is trash and has a SB ring. 

Stevenson isn't going to get cut and probably not benched. He's a 2nd round pick who has been slightly below to slightly above average so far in his career. He screwed up. So did several other players. 

Bottom line, if Caleb is the guy, he will be able to carry Eberflus to success. Caleb didn't play well today, but he also led 2 go ahead TD drives in the 4th quarter (one taken away by a somehow worse GL call than a speed option). If not for the miracle play, nobody is calling for Flus' or Stevenson's jobs.

Eberflus’ primary job is to be DC as head coach?

[gflore34]

At least Caleb gave them chance, never would have had such a chance with the previous Bears' QB's.  Sure, he was terrible for three quarters but, what he did in the fourth is what a franchise QB does.  I'll still take him over Daniels any day of the the week and twice on Sunday.  Prior to the hail mary how many times did Daniels get the Commanders into the end zone?  And Caleb, having a terrible day, still managed to get the Bears into end zone more times than Daniels did the Commanders.

As for the hail mary, officials have no problems calling PI on such a play but, swallow their flags on multiple obvious holds and a block-in-the-back?  horsefeathers.

Edited October 28, 2024 by gflore34

[raw]

5 minutes ago, Wilson A2000 said:

Eberflus’ primary job is to be DC as head coach?

You know he's DC too right? That role is much more important than his HC role. Just like any coach in any sport. Install the gameplan and build the infrastructure. Players win games and make them look good. Players lose game, they look bad. If the players had stopped 1 single miracle play, nobody would have anything negative to say about him as a HC as his defense held the top scoring offense 20 points below their season average.

And if you knock him for losing this one, then you gotta give him props for his defense winning Week 1.

[SpongeWorthy]

32 minutes ago, raw said:

I understand the emotion of losing a game on a Hail Mary, but maybe sleep it off a bit?

Like they aren't going to fire Eberflus because he's 4-3 with a miracle loss, when the team has only been trying for 7 games, all with a rookie QB. He's still the coach because he still hasn't allowed more than 21 points in now 15 games, which is his primary job. Obviously, he needs to be better at decision making. But there are several coaches who are bad at gameday decisions.

Kyle Shanahan has had multiple, very public coaching failures. Detroit lost a chance at a SB in part due to coaching decisions. Zac Taylor made a SB and is atrocious in-game. McCarthy is trash and has a SB ring. 

Stevenson isn't going to get cut and probably not benched. He's a 2nd round pick who has been slightly below to slightly above average so far in his career. He screwed up. So did several other players. 

Bottom line, if Caleb is the guy, he will be able to carry Eberflus to success. Caleb didn't play well today, but he also led 2 go ahead TD drives in the 4th quarter (one taken away by a somehow worse GL call than a speed option). If not for the miracle play, nobody is calling for Flus' or Stevenson's jobs.

I like making fun of shanahan more than anything but he always makes the playoffs and Campbell has the lions looking like the Super Bowl favorites or close to it

Flus doesn’t have that kind of built up credibility and if we miss the playoffs by one game which no one would be surprised by this game would’ve cost him his job 

[raw]

8 minutes ago, SpongeWorthy said:

I like making fun of shanahan more than anything but he always makes the playoffs and Campbell has the lions looking like the Super Bowl favorites or close to it

Flus doesn’t have that kind of built up credibility and if we miss the playoffs by one game which no one would be surprised by this game would’ve cost him his job 

Wasn't making fun of anyone. Just saying some of the people lauded as great head coaches aren't all that great in-game either.

And if they miss the playoffs by 1 game, it's going to be because he didn't do well enough vs the teams he needs to be in the division. If they go 3-3 in the division, then he should have gone 4-2. If they go 4-2 in the division, they'll probably be in the playoffs and this game in October doesn't really matter all that much. If they go worse than 3-3 in the division, then this game also doesn't matter because they clearly weren't good enough anyway.

[UMFan83]

12 minutes ago, raw said:

You know he's DC too right? That role is much more important than his HC role. Just like any coach in any sport. Install the gameplan and build the infrastructure. Players win games and make them look good. Players lose game, they look bad. If the players had stopped 1 single miracle play, nobody would have anything negative to say about him as a HC as his defense held the top scoring offense 20 points below their season average.

And if you knock him for losing this one, then you gotta give him props for his defense winning Week 1.

He’s the defensive play caller, not the DC. 
And sure he gets credit for the defense vs Tennessee which gave him the 7 points needed to win the game but the defensive performance overall doesn’t look particularly special because the Titans offense is atrocious.  The Titans scored 17 points which was their 2nd highest point total of the year (believe it or not), they gave up 243 yards which is their 3rd highest yardage allowed this year.  The Bears defense were probably a bit gassed with all the short offensive possessions but the Titans plays run is not particularly notable. 

In no way am I saying the Bears played poorly on defense in that game but the performance doesn’t really stand out compared to their other 7 games (outside of the TD scored)

[Soul]

Caleb’s numbers weren’t good but he had two drives down to the goal line, one of which gave the Bears the lead.  I wish he lit it up but grabbing the lead with seconds left is something we haven’t seen much of and it’s in the first half of his first season.  And on the road.  I’m still on board the Caleb train.

[Brian707]

One positive.  Whoever Washington wins the last home game before the election the incumbent party wins the White House.  If Stevenson isn't an idiot we might have gone to a dark place as a country 

[jersey cubs fan]

Bummer loss but I only watched first half when Caleb was awful and the defense kept them in it. It looks like he at least improved in second half. 
 

but this loss is on Kyle