Dusty Bad Managerial Moves Thread

[ToupeeOnFire]

I just made this point on another thread, so if people just want me to shut the heck up, let me know and I will.

 

This particular problem stems back to Dusty's, and perhaps the organizational, belief that the Cubs are right in the thick of a playoff race. Heck, this is a big game for the Cubs, so they need their ace to get these big outs. You wanna trust Novoa when the 2005 World Series hangs in the balance? Are you crazy?

 

The best thing that can happen to this team is the realization that they kind of stink so we might as well shut down Wood and ARAM, start Cedeno, Murton and Fontenot (or whoever at third) and use the last month to really evaluate what needs to be done this offseason.

 

The problem is, even if they were in the thick of the pennant race, it wouldn't have been wise to leave Mark Prior out there to wither on the vine like he did. He not only is risking Prior's long term health, he's risking his short-term health and effectiveness. Plus, by leaving him in there, the Braves managed to score a crucial insurance run.

 

But I agree with your point in general, though.

[thedaymen]

The problem is, even if they were in the thick of the pennant race, it wouldn't have been wise to leave Mark Prior out there to wither on the vine like he did. He not only is risking Prior's long term health, he's risking his short-term health and effectiveness. Plus, by leaving him in there, the Braves managed to score a crucial insurance run.

 

But I agree with your point in general, though.

 

Well, yes, I agree with that as well....I think with a better manager, Z's ERA would be about .5 lower. I wonder if we could figure out opponent rbi's after 100 pitches. I bet its a lot.

 

But Dusty doesn't trust the 'pen, so he leaves his starters in too long. That may make sense if you think the games are all sooper dooper important. I don't think it does, but I'll concede it might to other folks.

 

It makes zero sense to anyone to risk Mark Prior on a day like today. If Prior had struck out Furcal its still a terrible risk to leave him in on a meaningless game.

 

Its time to start managing like the Cubs are out of it, so even Dusty will be pulling guys before anything is at risk.

 

I have a friend I post with on a Utah Jazz message board that gurantees me that Dusty is going to ruin all three of the Cubs' aces before next year is over.

 

One down (granted, a strong assist from Riggs)...two to go.

[UK1679666180]

But Dusty doesn't trust the 'pen, so he leaves his starters in too long.

 

He also did that in '03 with a decent pen and several years in SF.

[USSoccer]

The problem is, even if they were in the thick of the pennant race, it wouldn't have been wise to leave Mark Prior out there to wither on the vine like he did. He not only is risking Prior's long term health, he's risking his short-term health and effectiveness. Plus, by leaving him in there, the Braves managed to score a crucial insurance run.

 

But I agree with your point in general, though.

 

Well, yes, I agree with that as well....I think with a better manager, Z's ERA would be about .5 lower. I wonder if we could figure out opponent rbi's after 100 pitches. I bet its a lot.

 

But Dusty doesn't trust the 'pen, so he leaves his starters in too long. That may make sense if you think the games are all sooper dooper important. I don't think it does, but I'll concede it might to other folks.

 

It makes zero sense to anyone to risk Mark Prior on a day like today. If Prior had struck out Furcal its still a terrible risk to leave him in on a meaningless game.

 

Its time to start managing like the Cubs are out of it, so even Dusty will be pulling guys before anything is at risk.

 

I have a friend I post with on a Utah Jazz message board that gurantees me that Dusty is going to ruin all three of the Cubs' aces before next year is over.

 

One down (granted, a strong assist from Riggs)...two to go.

 

I'd be more upset at Wood's idiot H.S. coach before I was upset with Riggs.

[sethuel1]

Yeah, I brought it back. And deservedly so.

 

Just go look at the lineup for tonight's game. Or the substitutions that were made.

 

now try not to throw up.

[J.R.]

He's an embarrassment.

 

I hate him.

 

SERIOUS, ALL-CONSUMING HATRED

[YearofDaCubs]

He's an embarrassment.

 

I hate him.

 

SERIOUS, ALL-CONSUMING HATRED

I'm with you.

[burnt out cubbie fan]

Someone should print this thread up and give it to Dusty/Hendry at the Cubs convention. :D

[BigbadB]

Only problem is we gave up on this thread quite some time ago. It's boring to be redundant. Most of his mistakes were the same mistakes made over and over. This thread would be 200 pages long if we reported in every time he did something that didn't make sense.

[sethuel1]

Only problem is we gave up on this thread quite some time ago. It's boring to be redundant. Most of his mistakes were the same mistakes made over and over. This thread would be 200 pages long if we reported in every time he did something that didn't make sense.

 

well over 200

[BigbadB]

Only problem is we gave up on this thread quite some time ago. It's boring to be redundant. Most of his mistakes were the same mistakes made over and over. This thread would be 200 pages long if we reported in every time he did something that didn't make sense.

 

well over 200

 

Sorry, you're right. I just didn't want to get accused of exaggerating. :P

[Fred Hornkohl]

Only problem is we gave up on this thread quite some time ago. It's boring to be redundant. Most of his mistakes were the same mistakes made over and over. This thread would be 200 pages long if we reported in every time he did something that didn't make sense.

 

well over 200

 

Sorry, you're right. I just didn't want to get accused of exaggerating. :P

 

Haven't I told you a million times not to exaggerate ?? :wink:

[YearofDaCubs]

How ignorant is Hendry and the Cubs organization to not see all these faults within Baker?

[BigbadB]

How ignorant is Hendry and the Cubs organization to not see all these faults within Baker?

 

Ha! You just reread this whole thread, didn't you? :D

[JC]

so who do you guys suggest be our new coach?

 

A warm body.

 

Seriously, you have to be asleep at the wheel to bat Neifi Perez in that situation. He was signed as a defensive backup. You're telling me that we traded Sosa for a player who isn't even going to be the FIRST PLAYER OFF THE BENCH.

 

Kill me if every game is like this this year.

 

That statement was from the April 6 game. Lucky for you that you said "every" instead of "most".

[J.R.]

If he's going to pinch hit the troll with quality hitters on the bench and the game on the line, maybe it's time to send him back to San Francisco.

 

From April. Quoted soley for the purpose of self-torture.

[CubinNY]

Those quotes go to show how little managing Dusty actually did this year. He never changed his behavior even though his behavior repeatedly produced unwanted results. The definition of bad managering.

 

I don't know if I can stand another three years with this guy. But he will be in the dugout for the centenial of the last Cubs World Series win. Whoopie!!

[thedaymen]

Those quotes go to show how little managing Dusty actually did this year. He never changed his behavior even though his behavior repeatedly produced unwanted results. The definition of bad managering.

 

Its also the definition of "insanity."

[BigbadB]

Jose Macias as a pinch hitter this year:

 

.185/.207/.241/.448

 

That last one is not slugging. That's his OPS.

 

If you were wondering why he was one of the first PH's off the bench most of the season, maybe his 2004 numbers will help:

 

.213/.260/.213/.473

 

Nope. That didn't help. Hmmm. Just you all wait. I'm going to find a legitimate reason for this guy being on the roster all year if it takes me the entire offseason.

[LoneStarCubFan]

Jose Macias as a pinch hitter this year:

 

.185/.207/.241/.448

 

That last one is not slugging. That's his OPS.

 

If you were wondering why he was one of the first PH's off the bench most of the season, maybe his 2004 numbers will help:

 

.213/.260/.213/.473

 

Nope. That didn't help. Hmmm. Just you all wait. I'm going to find a legitimate reason for this guy being on the roster all year if it takes me the entire offseason.

 

I've given this whole Macias thing a lot of thought and the only conclusion that makes sens is that Jose has incriminating pictures of Baker with livestock.

[YearofDaCubs]

There is nothing more to say. If Baker, Macias and Perez are here I might have to start rooting for a smart organization because this one is straight up DUMB!

[Careless]

Those quotes go to show how little managing Dusty actually did this year. He never changed his behavior even though his behavior repeatedly produced unwanted results. The definition of bad managering.

 

I don't know if I can stand another three years with this guy. But he will be in the dugout for the centenial of the last Cubs World Series win. Whoopie!!

Hey, dusty does a lot of managing. Think of all the glorious double switches!

[BadKermit]

if I made a bet right now that this season Neifi and Macias, combined, will have at least 2.5 times the plate appearances of Dubois and Hairston, combined, who would bet against me?

1.4, but your point is well-taken. Sadly, Neifi had the third-most PAs on the team, over 100 more than Aramis. Sigh.

[sethuel1]

if I made a bet right now that this season Neifi and Macias, combined, will have at least 2.5 times the plate appearances of Dubois and Hairston, combined, who would bet against me?

1.4, but your point is well-taken. Sadly, Neifi had the third-most PAs on the team, over 100 more than Aramis. Sigh.

 

i was a bit off. But the fact that it was 1.4 makes me want to vomit.

[UMFan83]

He left Matt Clement in when he was getting shelled by the White So-

 

oh wait, that wasn't Dusty :embarassed: