Dusty Bad Managerial Moves Thread

[ZZ Thorn]

OBP and Ks are two distinct stats. I've been a fan for Dubois for years (I bet I've even been a fan longer than Vance, tho I grant Vance has a real passion for the Creature), I wish he was our starting LF. But I also am pretty sure he'll whiff a lot. I think other stats will help offset that, and I hope he won't K as much, but call me old school: he was on pace for 150 Ks in AAA last year, so we're talking what, 175 Ks in the bigs over a full year and 175 Ks in one year is a lot of Ks. You K that much and I call you Dutch - cuz yer a wind machine.

 

For the record, I want to see Dubois get mucho PT. As I said, I wish he was the starting LF, but I can understand why Dusty is, I hope, easing him in. Dubois does have to earn PT - he's not some 5 tooler like CP who it's fine to take some lumps with. Dubois is 26 already. He's had what, maybe 50 lifetime ABs? We're trying to win the series here - if a proven commodity like Holla plays fine the whole year and Dubois never gets extended PT I'm fine with that. I'm rootiing for the Cubs, not the Duboises. Anyway, Holla will get hurt and that's when, a la Lou Gehrig, Dubois will get his chance to prove he's a full time MLB player. That's the way it works for non 5 toolers. Anyway, Dusty uses everyone on the bench so Dubois will keep from getting rusty. Anyway part 2, the Cubs organization seems to agree that Dubois has nothing left to prove at AAA so as long as he's as good as we think he is he's here to stay.

 

I don't agree with everything Dusty does, but it seems like some people are totally flabbergasted as to why Dusty does some of the things he does. All I usually do is just try to understand it, which is different from agreeing with it and totally different from following Dusty blindly. Waaah, stop categorizing me, you're hurting my feelings! J/k....

 

It's not that I'm a Dusty Luster, I just try to keep some perspective on Dubois - I mean the guy's name is clearly of French origin and should be pronounced 'Doo-bwa." It's fine if your a guy like W.E.B. DuBois, but Dubois is no DuBois, let's keep some more perspective. Despite his shortcomings, he's been balling for years in the minors and I say give him a chance. And I think, in stages, he'll get his chance this year. You know Holla will get hurt....

[louisvillecub]

 

It's not that I'm a Dusty Luster, I just try to keep some perspective on Dubois - I mean the guy's name is clearly of French origin and should be pronounced 'Doo-bwa." It's fine if your a guy like W.E.B. DuBois, but Dubois is no DuBois, let's keep some more perspective. Despite his shortcomings, he's been balling for years in the minors and I say give him a chance. And I think, in stages, he'll get his chance this year. You know Holla will get hurt....

 

:-k

[BadKermit]

I'm avoiding this thread for obvious reasons. ZZ thinks like Dusty. He thinks just because Dubois is a rookie he should be the 25th man. He ignores Dubois' 316 BA in Iowa, his 389 OBP and his 1.019 OPS. He ignores the fact that he was an AFL MVP and that he's performed at every level, and I'd bet put up better minor league numbers than Macias or Perez ever did. He ignores the fact that Dubois is hitting .375 this year despite the fact he's played sporadically compared to Hollandsworth's 241 BA. He ignores the fact that Dubois has an OBP of 444 compared to Hollandsworth's 333. Dubois should be getting more starts instead of rotting on the bench. With Walker out, Dubois should be the first option off the bench. Of course, ZZ believes in everything Dusty does. So if Dusty has Dubois at the end of the bench, that's where he should be. I just have trouble trusting Dusty. This is the man who believes tall people have more moveable parts, black people play better in the heat, that walks clog the bases, that the Yankees didn't win by walking (when in their WS years, they were among the playoff leaders in walks), and spouts wonderful stories about fish to try to get his point across. Of course, trusting ZZ would be trusting someone who doesn't think Adam Dunn has value either, so maybe I should be done with the discussion.

::High five::

::Chest bump::

[mhuber92211]

I get the feeling some people here would have posted an "attaboy Dusty" after every one of Lenny Harris' 24 hits. I look forward to Macias' 1st RBI: "Dusty pulled the right string!", etc. ad nauseam. Macias had 22 RBI's in 2004, and 2005 will be a long season for me if I read and respond to that many "attaboy Dusty" threads. And there is Neifi too. If I had any self-discipline I would just wait till the end of the season, when Neifi and Macias have booked another year of predictably awful numbers in their awful careers, and then respond to the several dozens of "attaboys" that have accumulated over the course of the season.

 

 

Thats funny, cause I get a similar feeling that some people here will have posted ad nauseam "Macias Still Sucks"; "Fire Dusty NOW" when Dusty has his first 4 game losing streak. I guess I should just wait until the end of the season when Dusty delievers the 3rd straight winning season (something which hasn't been done in my lifetime) and then respond to those "Fire Dusty" comments.

[imb]

I get the feeling some people here would have posted an "attaboy Dusty" after every one of Lenny Harris' 24 hits. I look forward to Macias' 1st RBI: "Dusty pulled the right string!", etc. ad nauseam. Macias had 22 RBI's in 2004, and 2005 will be a long season for me if I read and respond to that many "attaboy Dusty" threads. And there is Neifi too. If I had any self-discipline I would just wait till the end of the season, when Neifi and Macias have booked another year of predictably awful numbers in their awful careers, and then respond to the several dozens of "attaboys" that have accumulated over the course of the season.

 

 

Thats funny, cause I get a similar feeling that some people here will have posted ad nauseam "Macias Still Sucks"; "Fire Dusty NOW" when Dusty has his first 4 game losing streak. I guess I should just wait until the end of the season when Dusty delievers the 3rd straight winning season (something which hasn't been done in my lifetime) and then respond to those "Fire Dusty" comments.

 

Yeah, Dusty pitched pretty well yesterday didnt he? Not to mention all the homeruns he hit.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Dusty gets a lot of credit for the back to back winning seasons, but with the talent this team has had over the last two seasons, it would have been a major choke job not to have winning seasons. I believe any number of managers who were available in the offseason of 2002 could have produced such. I think that Bobby Valentine, Bob Melvin, Mike Hargrove...hell even Ray Miller may have been able to do what Dusty did with those teams...and maybe more. We'll never know.

 

I haven't always been on Dusty's case. In fact, I applauded his hire at the time. I hadn't watched him in depth and he had a good record and a reputation as someone who could get the most out of his players. Doubt began to creep in my mind during 2003. He made a number of questionable in game decisions and not only did he insert Lenny Harris into the starting line-up, he batted him lead-off! :pukel: But, through it all, I kept giving him the benefit of the doubt.

 

After last season, I've even begun to question his ability to control a clubhouse which was supposedly his strength. He makes a lot of excuses and seems to pass the buck. It was never his fault. I remember when the team was making many fundamental errors last season, Dusty repeatedly said, "My teams don't play that way." Newsflash, Dusty. That was your team. I began to sour on him a lot last year, but still ultimately defended him.

 

This year, it took one week for me to finally say enough is enough. His off the wall comments, his inability to put the best line-up on the field, his reliance on piece of crap Macias...I've finally had enough.

[AI]

Dusty gets a lot of credit for the back to back winning seasons, but with the talent this team has had over the last two seasons, it would have been a major choke job not to have winning seasons. I believe any number of managers who were available in the offseason of 2002 could have produced such. I think that Bobby Valentine, Bob Melvin, Mike Hargrove...hell even Ray Miller may have been able to do what Dusty did with those teams...and maybe more. We'll never know.

 

I haven't always been on Dusty's case. In fact, I applauded his hire at the time. I hadn't watched him in depth and he had a good record and a reputation as someone who could get the most out of his players. Doubt began to creep in my mind during 2003. He made a number of questionable in game decisions and not only did he insert Lenny Harris into the starting line-up, he batted him lead-off! :pukel: But, through it all, I kept giving him the benefit of the doubt.

 

After last season, I've even begun to question his ability to control a clubhouse which was supposedly his strength. He makes a lot of excuses and seems to pass the buck. It was never his fault. I remember when the team was making many fundamental errors last season, Dusty repeatedly said, "My teams don't play that way." Newsflash, Dusty. That was your team. I began to sour on him a lot last year, but still ultimately defended him.

 

This year, it took one week for me to finally say enough is enough. His off the wall comments, his inability to put the best line-up on the field, his reliance on piece of crap Macias...I've finally had enough.

 

Vance is, dare I say, en fuego! I think that is the way many of us felt about Dusty initially and how are opinions of him have evolved. Although I would be remiss if I did not acknowledge the strong, albeit minority, group of posters who hated this hiring from day one.

[wastra]

Dusty gets a lot of credit for the back to back winning seasons, but with the talent this team has had over the last two seasons, it would have been a major choke job not to have winning seasons. I believe any number of managers who were available in the offseason of 2002 could have produced such. I think that Bobby Valentine, Bob Melvin, Mike Hargrove...hell even Ray Miller may have been able to do what Dusty did with those teams...and maybe more. We'll never know.

 

I haven't always been on Dusty's case. In fact, I applauded his hire at the time. I hadn't watched him in depth and he had a good record and a reputation as someone who could get the most out of his players. Doubt began to creep in my mind during 2003. He made a number of questionable in game decisions and not only did he insert Lenny Harris into the starting line-up, he batted him lead-off! :pukel: But, through it all, I kept giving him the benefit of the doubt.

 

After last season, I've even begun to question his ability to control a clubhouse which was supposedly his strength. He makes a lot of excuses and seems to pass the buck. It was never his fault. I remember when the team was making many fundamental errors last season, Dusty repeatedly said, "My teams don't play that way." Newsflash, Dusty. That was your team. I began to sour on him a lot last year, but still ultimately defended him.

 

This year, it took one week for me to finally say enough is enough. His off the wall comments, his inability to put the best line-up on the field, his reliance on piece of crap Macias...I've finally had enough.

 

 

 

I'll go one step further: If 3 of our 4 best starting pitchers aren't healthy all year and we still finish over .500 with a legit playoff shot in late September, I'll openly praise his job as manager, because I think we're one injured pitcher away from toying with .500 all year with this roster.

 

 

Being a Cubs fan doesn't mean we have to blindly accept and praise everyone in a Cubs uniform (not that anyone here is doing that). Our Cubs haven't won anything yet- seasons over .500 is fine, but it's not a victory, with our payroll and fan support, it should be the BARE MINIMUM expectation. We should EXPECT to battle down to the wire for the playoffs every season. We're not pittsburgh, Milwaukee, or Kansas City. The Cubs are a major market team with a major budget with a great ballpark. failing to win with that is not excusable.

 

The downside to shedding the "loveable losers" tag the past couple years is that the organization and team can't fall back on that anymore either when they fail to produce. This team has the money, the fan support, and the infrastructure to enter every season as one of the division's clear contenders. We should expect nothing less.

 

Hence, we will point out what we perceive to be glaring inadequacies with both management and personnel decisions. It doesn't make us less of "Cub Fans" to do so. It just means we disagree with the direction of the team we so root for.

[sonicdethmonkey0]

Dusty gets a lot of credit for the back to back winning seasons, but with the talent this team has had over the last two seasons, it would have been a major choke job not to have winning seasons. I believe any number of managers who were available in the offseason of 2002 could have produced such. I think that Bobby Valentine, Bob Melvin, Mike Hargrove...hell even Ray Miller may have been able to do what Dusty did with those teams...and maybe more. We'll never know.

 

I haven't always been on Dusty's case. In fact, I applauded his hire at the time. I hadn't watched him in depth and he had a good record and a reputation as someone who could get the most out of his players. Doubt began to creep in my mind during 2003. He made a number of questionable in game decisions and not only did he insert Lenny Harris into the starting line-up, he batted him lead-off! :pukel: But, through it all, I kept giving him the benefit of the doubt.

 

After last season, I've even begun to question his ability to control a clubhouse which was supposedly his strength. He makes a lot of excuses and seems to pass the buck. It was never his fault. I remember when the team was making many fundamental errors last season, Dusty repeatedly said, "My teams don't play that way." Newsflash, Dusty. That was your team. I began to sour on him a lot last year, but still ultimately defended him.

 

This year, it took one week for me to finally say enough is enough. His off the wall comments, his inability to put the best line-up on the field, his reliance on piece of crap Macias...I've finally had enough.

 

bravo

[frostwyrm]

I get the feeling some people here would have posted an "attaboy Dusty" after every one of Lenny Harris' 24 hits. I look forward to Macias' 1st RBI: "Dusty pulled the right string!", etc. ad nauseam. Macias had 22 RBI's in 2004, and 2005 will be a long season for me if I read and respond to that many "attaboy Dusty" threads. And there is Neifi too. If I had any self-discipline I would just wait till the end of the season, when Neifi and Macias have booked another year of predictably awful numbers in their awful careers, and then respond to the several dozens of "attaboys" that have accumulated over the course of the season.

 

 

Thats funny, cause I get a similar feeling that some people here will have posted ad nauseam "Macias Still Sucks"; "Fire Dusty NOW" when Dusty has his first 4 game losing streak. I guess I should just wait until the end of the season when Dusty delievers the 3rd straight winning season (something which hasn't been done in my lifetime) and then respond to those "Fire Dusty" comments.

 

If you want a broader view of the trend towards winning seasons then we should say that the Cubs have already had winning records in 3 of the last 4 seasons, starting with Don Baylor's oh-so-talented 2001 team that won 88 games.

 

Oops, I forgot, Dusty fans like to pretend 2001 never happened.

[Holy Cow]

I get the feeling some people here would have posted an "attaboy Dusty" after every one of Lenny Harris' 24 hits. I look forward to Macias' 1st RBI: "Dusty pulled the right string!", etc. ad nauseam. Macias had 22 RBI's in 2004, and 2005 will be a long season for me if I read and respond to that many "attaboy Dusty" threads. And there is Neifi too. If I had any self-discipline I would just wait till the end of the season, when Neifi and Macias have booked another year of predictably awful numbers in their awful careers, and then respond to the several dozens of "attaboys" that have accumulated over the course of the season.

 

 

Thats funny, cause I get a similar feeling that some people here will have posted ad nauseam "Macias Still Sucks"; "Fire Dusty NOW" when Dusty has his first 4 game losing streak. I guess I should just wait until the end of the season when Dusty delievers the 3rd straight winning season (something which hasn't been done in my lifetime) and then respond to those "Fire Dusty" comments.

 

If you want a broader view of the trend towards winning seasons then we should say that the Cubs have already had winning records in 3 of the last 4 seasons, starting with Don Baylor's oh-so-talented 2001 team that won 88 games.

 

Oops, I forgot, Dusty fans like to pretend 2001 never happened.

 

Are you suggesting that our success is due to talent on the field and not the presence of Dusty?

 

:shock: Heresay!

[Transmogrified Tiger]

OBP and Ks are two distinct stats. I've been a fan for Dubois for years (I bet I've even been a fan longer than Vance, tho I grant Vance has a real passion for the Creature), I wish he was our starting LF. But I also am pretty sure he'll whiff a lot. I think other stats will help offset that, and I hope he won't K as much, but call me old school: he was on pace for 150 Ks in AAA last year, so we're talking what, 175 Ks in the bigs over a full year and 175 Ks in one year is a lot of Ks. You K that much and I call you Dutch - cuz yer a wind machine.

 

For the record, I want to see Dubois get mucho PT. As I said, I wish he was the starting LF, but I can understand why Dusty is, I hope, easing him in. Dubois does have to earn PT - he's not some 5 tooler like CP who it's fine to take some lumps with. Dubois is 26 already. He's had what, maybe 50 lifetime ABs? We're trying to win the series here - if a proven commodity like Holla plays fine the whole year and Dubois never gets extended PT I'm fine with that. I'm rootiing for the Cubs, not the Duboises. Anyway, Holla will get hurt and that's when, a la Lou Gehrig, Dubois will get his chance to prove he's a full time MLB player. That's the way it works for non 5 toolers. Anyway, Dusty uses everyone on the bench so Dubois will keep from getting rusty. Anyway part 2, the Cubs organization seems to agree that Dubois has nothing left to prove at AAA so as long as he's as good as we think he is he's here to stay.

 

I don't agree with everything Dusty does, but it seems like some people are totally flabbergasted as to why Dusty does some of the things he does. All I usually do is just try to understand it, which is different from agreeing with it and totally different from following Dusty blindly. Waaah, stop categorizing me, you're hurting my feelings! J/k....

 

It's not that I'm a Dusty Luster, I just try to keep some perspective on Dubois - I mean the guy's name is clearly of French origin and should be pronounced 'Doo-bwa." It's fine if your a guy like W.E.B. DuBois, but Dubois is no DuBois, let's keep some more perspective. Despite his shortcomings, he's been balling for years in the minors and I say give him a chance. And I think, in stages, he'll get his chance this year. You know Holla will get hurt....

 

You called him the 24th man in your last post, if that, claiming he had to earn his way up the bench. Now you're saying you think he should be starting in LF? Make up your mind dude.

[ZZ Thorn]

Dubois IS the 24th man, that's the reality as I see it. I wish he was our starting LF and Holla could hopefully replicate the success he had off the bench last year.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

I get the feeling some people here would have posted an "attaboy Dusty" after every one of Lenny Harris' 24 hits. I look forward to Macias' 1st RBI: "Dusty pulled the right string!", etc. ad nauseam. Macias had 22 RBI's in 2004, and 2005 will be a long season for me if I read and respond to that many "attaboy Dusty" threads. And there is Neifi too. If I had any self-discipline I would just wait till the end of the season, when Neifi and Macias have booked another year of predictably awful numbers in their awful careers, and then respond to the several dozens of "attaboys" that have accumulated over the course of the season.

 

 

Thats funny, cause I get a similar feeling that some people here will have posted ad nauseam "Macias Still Sucks"; "Fire Dusty NOW" when Dusty has his first 4 game losing streak. I guess I should just wait until the end of the season when Dusty delievers the 3rd straight winning season (something which hasn't been done in my lifetime) and then respond to those "Fire Dusty" comments.

 

The most talented Cubs team post-World War II would have a winning season three consecutive years if I managed. Winnings three seasons in a row means nothing, they don't give out championship rings for just having a good season.

[mhuber92211]

 

If you want a broader view of the trend towards winning seasons then we should say that the Cubs have already had winning records in 3 of the last 4 seasons, starting with Don Baylor's oh-so-talented 2001 team that won 88 games.

 

Oops, I forgot, Dusty fans like to pretend 2001 never happened.

 

Oh certaintly I would point that out, except the fact that Dusty was not here in 2001 and I would have assumed that this was a Dusty thread. My Bad.

 

Agreed Talent is at a higher level, however the "trend" that we are speaking about is the Dusty trend. You can't argue those results. 2 Years, 2 winning seasons. Baylor had similar talent and didn't get anywhere in '02. Remember also that last year the talent that you speak about that Dusty had was hurt. The only talent that didn't get injured in some way last season was Alou & Lee. Even Zambrano had forearm issues. You have to say that Dusty did a pretty solid job last season adminst the team turmoil and injury issues. Most other teams with issues like that end up a major disappointment, like the 1st half Houston Astros of '04.

[don_kessinger_was_good]

 

If you want a broader view of the trend towards winning seasons then we should say that the Cubs have already had winning records in 3 of the last 4 seasons, starting with Don Baylor's oh-so-talented 2001 team that won 88 games.

 

Oops, I forgot, Dusty fans like to pretend 2001 never happened.

 

Oh certaintly I would point that out, except the fact that Dusty was not here in 2001 and I would have assumed that this was a Dusty thread. My Bad.

 

Agreed Talent is at a higher level, however the "trend" that we are speaking about is the Dusty trend. You can't argue those results. 2 Years, 2 winning seasons. Baylor had similar talent and didn't get anywhere in '02. Remember also that last year the talent that you speak about that Dusty had was hurt. The only talent that didn't get injured in some way last season was Alou & Lee. Even Zambrano had forearm issues. You have to say that Dusty did a pretty solid job last season adminst the team turmoil and injury issues. Most other teams with issues like that end up a major disappointment, like the 1st half Houston Astros of '04.

 

Your continuing comments that someone critical of Baker or other aspects of how the Cubs are run, is somehow not a "real fan" and is worthy of derision. I find this insulting. One does not need to be a cheerleader to be a Cub fan. But thanks for your concern.

[mhuber92211]

 

Your continuing comments that someone critical of Baker or other aspects of how the Cubs are run, is somehow not a "real fan" and is worthy of derision. I find this insulting. One does not need to be a cheerleader to be a Cub fan. But thanks for your concern.

 

What in the world are you talking about? NO WHERE have I said that you aren't a "real Fan" if you critcize something. In fact, should you read posts under the "Rants" section of this website under a thread started by Gracie Girl I specifically say that constructive criticsm is important. I take issue with the "Latroy Suckins" and "Season Over" negativity. What does concern me are the posters here who call for blood after 2 weeks! I guess I understand that the Cubs won't be a perfect 162-0 team and are allowed to make boneheaded plays. Apparently this is construed of being a cheerleader.

 

I'm not sure what I said to deserve such a comment. But I should apologize for not criticzing the Cubs enough for you. Apparently conformity is that important in your life where everyone should do as you say.

 

I won't stop defending the team, organization, players or managers from posters who just bash just to bash. This provides no purpose or insight. The intelligent posts breaking down the issues are what this forum should be about.

[frostwyrm]

 

If you want a broader view of the trend towards winning seasons then we should say that the Cubs have already had winning records in 3 of the last 4 seasons, starting with Don Baylor's oh-so-talented 2001 team that won 88 games.

 

Oops, I forgot, Dusty fans like to pretend 2001 never happened.

 

Oh certaintly I would point that out, except the fact that Dusty was not here in 2001 and I would have assumed that this was a Dusty thread. My Bad.

 

Agreed Talent is at a higher level, however the "trend" that we are speaking about is the Dusty trend. You can't argue those results. 2 Years, 2 winning seasons. Baylor had similar talent and didn't get anywhere in '02. Remember also that last year the talent that you speak about that Dusty had was hurt. The only talent that didn't get injured in some way last season was Alou & Lee. Even Zambrano had forearm issues. You have to say that Dusty did a pretty solid job last season adminst the team turmoil and injury issues. Most other teams with issues like that end up a major disappointment, like the 1st half Houston Astros of '04.

 

One of the my main gripes about Dusty fans has been that whenever anyone brings up 2001 Dusty fans refuse to discuss that season and quickly try to change the subject back to 2002. Guess what, that's exactly what you did.

 

Another question: if you won't discuss 2001 because "Dusty was not here in 2001" and this is a "Dusty thread", then why did you bring up 2002 again? Dusty wasn't here till 2003.

[Careless]

I don't agree with everything Dusty does, but it seems like some people are totally flabbergasted as to why Dusty does some of the things he does. All I usually do is just try to understand it, which is different from agreeing with it and totally different from following Dusty blindly. Waaah, stop categorizing me, you're hurting my feelings! J/k....

the problem that I have with this (and, I suspect, most other people around here) is that you seem to come from the perspective of "Dusty is doing this so it must be right... so how can it be justified". that's not critical thinking, that's religion.

[Careless]

Ha ha! Macias and Neifi on the left side of the infield in Game Two! Between the two of them and Blanco, it's good to see we're only going to the plate with 6 hitters (including Prior).

 

](*,)

 

and amazingily enough the Cubs have scored 7 runs by the 3rd inning. Lets try to make sure that the moves are poor before we discount them

Hindsight is 20-20. Benching A-Ram, Barrett, and Nomar for Prior's first start is a really bad way to build his confidence, in my opinion. Waiting to see how it turned out isn't exactly fair, is it? This is like when Dusty would do something stupid in 2003, have it work out, and Chip Caray would say, "Dusty pushes the right button again!" Those drinking birds can push buttons, too.

 

Yet we use hindsight all throughout this thread to take issue with Dusty's decisions.

totally wrong. Dusty bashers complain about what dusty is doing beforehand either here or in gamethread/flashchat. dusty supporters wait until neifi gets a hit to say anything here.

 

BINGO.

 

Give me a break. You guys rip just about everything he does and then whenever it turns out badly for him you make a big deal about how right you were and how stupid he is. However, whenever it turns out to be a good move you say either he was just lucky or have no comment. It doesn't even make for good conversation, because there is obviously an axe to grind that will not allow the Dusty bashers to engage in any give and take. It is either you agree that Dusty is an idiot or then obviously you don't know anything about baseball and statistics.

 

I know! Frosty and Careless are so way off its hilarious. Have they been visiting baseball discussions?

 

To me, game thread and flash chats aren't places with solid baseball info. It's the nature of the mediums to be over-emotional and stupid. [/b]

I'm confused, these mediums are "over-emotional and stupid" but consistently point out mistakes that dusty is making in a timely manner, one that indicates these same mistakes would not be made by a competent manager? then dusty must be PATHETIC

[2242005CY]

Dusty brings in his best pitcher from the pen (wuertz) in a sacrifice situation (Ross layed down a Sac bunt) to face 1 hitter, who sacrificed. Brilliant.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Dusty brings in his best pitcher from the pen (wuertz) in a sacrifice situation (Ross layed down a Sac bunt) to face 1 hitter, who sacrificed. Brilliant.

 

And Dusty doesn't bring in the infield. ](*,)

 

And he extended Zambrano one hitter too many, he does that to the pitchers waaaaaay too often.

[Outshined_One]

I give up.

 

I used to keep my mouth shut about Dusty as an overall manager (although I would complain about certain moves he made), but now, like Popeye, I can't stands no more!

 

He's not the worst manager we've had (not by a longshot), but the man is just so completely confusing. He makes indefensible decisions, he regularly plays hitters who take months to draw their first walk, he doesn't seem to know a damn thing about splits, and with some of the decisions he's been making recently, I don't think he even cares any more!

 

I don't know who the heck will be out there this offseason, but I really hope the Cubs give them a good, long look.

[Larry Horse]

Will this thread hold the number of posts that will be made?

 

By the way Dusty, Macias is now 1/12. HE DOESN'T HAVE TO PLAY!!

[Larry Horse]

I give up.

 

I used to keep my mouth shut about Dusty as an overall manager (although I would complain about certain moves he made), but now, like Popeye, I can't stands no more!

 

He's not the worst manager we've had (not by a longshot), but the man is just so completely confusing. He makes indefensible decisions, he regularly plays hitters who take months to draw their first walk, he doesn't seem to know a damn thing about splits, and with some of the decisions he's been making recently, I don't think he even cares any more!

 

I don't know who the heck will be out there this offseason, but I really hope the Cubs give them a good, long look.

 

Chris Speier or Grady Little are my early bets.