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2 more shutout innings today; 1 hit, 1 BB, 3 Ks. Down to a 1.41 ERA. :(

 

Today just keeps getting better and better.

 

Our stud lefty Bartosh also has a 1.42 ERA but, as with Sisco, I will check back in July before I let myself get too impressed.

 

Thank God we don't have TWO lefties in the pen with sub 1.50 ERA's.

 

The Bartosh comparison isn't really relevant. Sisco didn't have to be on our major league roster.

 

My only point of comparison is that a low ERA two weeks into the season is not necessarily a sign of things to come. Either pitcher could keep it up, but the long season has a way of exposing weaknesses and bringing out the truth. In Sisco's case the fact he has never dominated at any professional level leads me to believe that eventually the league will catch up with him. If I am wrong, good for him and the Royals. However, my thought is that the premature promotion and lack of innings for development will wind up making him more like the next Stephen Randolph than like the next Randy Johnson.

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2 more shutout innings today; 1 hit, 1 BB, 3 Ks. Down to a 1.41 ERA. :(

 

Today just keeps getting better and better.

 

Our stud lefty Bartosh also has a 1.42 ERA but, as with Sisco, I will check back in July before I let myself get too impressed.

 

Thank God we don't have TWO lefties in the pen with sub 1.50 ERA's.

 

The Bartosh comparison isn't really relevant. Sisco didn't have to be on our major league roster.

 

My only point of comparison is that a low ERA two weeks into the season is not necessarily a sign of things to come. Either pitcher could keep it up, but the long season has a way of exposing weaknesses and bringing out the truth. In Sisco's case the fact he has never dominated at any professional level leads me to believe that eventually the league will catch up with him. If I am wrong, good for him and the Royals. However, my thought is that the premature promotion and lack of innings for development will wind up making him more like the next Stephen Randolph than like the next Randy Johnson.

 

Fair enough.

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I will be saddened if we do indeed lose Sisco. But whos to say he will keep this up for his whole career? Or even the rest of this year? Yea, being young he will develop, but he was developing nicely in our minor leagues, got lazy, developed a bad attitude and got worse. What if the Royals make him their primary reliever, or make him a starter at some point this year or next. He will do well for a while once they show confidence in him. But what about a while after that? Will he get lazy and balloon his weight and drop? Will it take a trade to motivate him again at that point? I'm not saying thats necessarily the case, but apparently that is what it took this time. What if he becomes a career average pitcher who lacks motivation to do well. Sounds like a headache we could live without.

 

Or he could still just falter as a starter. What if he just becomes a great reliver in this league, but nothing more? A tough loss still, but not like losing a Randy Johnson.

 

He's gone, okay I'm pissed, but I'm gonna wait before I say we lost something REAL special. Not trying to say I support this move, it blew up in Hendry's face(for now), but maybe ultimately maybe Sisco will just be a concerous headcase that no one ever wants.

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OK, can those of us who are pissed about the Cubs leaving Sisco unprotected (JC, goony) all agree that our issue is not with leaving him unprotected, but rather with who we protected instead of him? (i.e., Koronka, Rohlicek)? If so, I would like to hear someone defend the fact that Koronka and Rohlicek were protected (as well as a roster spot left open, which turned out to be waste-of-space Randolph) and Sisco was not.
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OK, can those of us who are pissed about the Cubs leaving Sisco unprotected (JC, goony) all agree that our issue is not with leaving him unprotected, but rather with who we protected instead of him? (i.e., Koronka, Rohlicek)? If so, I would like to hear someone defend the fact that Koronka and Rohlicek were protected (as well as a roster spot left open, which turned out to be waste-of-space Randolph) and Sisco was not.

 

ARGH! :wall:

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OK, can those of us who are pissed about the Cubs leaving Sisco unprotected (JC, goony) all agree that our issue is not with leaving him unprotected, but rather with who we protected instead of him? (i.e., Koronka, Rohlicek)? If so, I would like to hear someone defend the fact that Koronka and Rohlicek were protected (as well as a roster spot left open, which turned out to be waste-of-space Randolph) and Sisco was not.

Because Hendry's decision wasn't that he needed to protect Koronka instead of Sisco. It was that Sisco didn't need protecting and therefore he had an extra roster spot available.

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OK, can those of us who are pissed about the Cubs leaving Sisco unprotected (JC, goony) all agree that our issue is not with leaving him unprotected, but rather with who we protected instead of him? (i.e., Koronka, Rohlicek)? If so, I would like to hear someone defend the fact that Koronka and Rohlicek were protected (as well as a roster spot left open, which turned out to be waste-of-space Randolph) and Sisco was not.

Because Hendry's decision wasn't that he needed to protect Koronka instead of Sisco. It was that Sisco didn't need protecting and therefore he had an extra roster spot available.

 

I can't agree with this. At the very least, roster availability had to be part of the equation for Hendry. Despite a roster spot being open at the time, the needs of the team were varied, and I suspect that Hendry didn't want clog his roster which would cause additional decisions in the future.

 

Likewise, I can't agree with Truffle. As I've stated numerous times, I would not have left Sisco unprotected due to various reasons. A component of that reasoning includes the fact that there was roster manueverability in light of people like Koronka and Rohlicek taking up spots. However, while I see that as manueverability, Hendry likely did not because these two were more "major league ready" than Sisco by virtue of their experience.

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More importantly, Koronka and Rohlicek could be removed from the roster without risking too. much. Both of those guys would have a better chance of clearing waivers than Sisco would.

 

Not that I agree with that rationale.

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Sisco gave up a hit in the middle of striking out the side inthe 8th against the White Sox today. I missed it so I didn't get a chance to see how good he looked, but CSN is re-airing it @ 1am CT so I guess I will have to set the DVR to record....

 

... oh, his ERA is down to 1.35 BTW.

 

:x

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Sisco's line tonight: 1-1-0-0-3. ERA for the season is 1.35.

 

He was brought in late in the game with the Royals behind 2-1. The kid is really having a great April. He pitched between 91-92 mph primarily with everything down. He showed some nice poise, too.

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Wow. This guy is gone. See you later Andy Sisco.

 

This sucks big time. I never thought he'd have this kind of success this year. Bad move by Hendry, but honestly, who could've guessed it? He can't be this good, he'll come back to earth, but with such a great start he's not coming back unless he pulls an Ankiel.

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Wow. This guy is gone. See you later Andy Sisco.

 

This sucks big time. I never thought he'd have this kind of success this year. Bad move by Hendry, but honestly, who could've guessed it? He can't be this good, he'll come back to earth, but with such a great start he's not coming back unless he pulls an Ankiel.

 

He's not coming back regardless of the rest of the season's performance. The Royals suck and can afford to keep him all year.

 

As stated by others, the problem wasn't management not forseeing this success this quick in Sisco, it was the moronic gamble they took when complete garbage like Stephen Randolph was (temporarily) given a 40-man spot instead.

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OK, can those of us who are pissed about the Cubs leaving Sisco unprotected (JC, goony) all agree that our issue is not with leaving him unprotected, but rather with who we protected instead of him? (i.e., Koronka, Rohlicek)? If so, I would like to hear someone defend the fact that Koronka and Rohlicek were protected (as well as a roster spot left open, which turned out to be waste-of-space Randolph) and Sisco was not.

Because Hendry's decision wasn't that he needed to protect Koronka instead of Sisco. It was that Sisco didn't need protecting and therefore he had an extra roster spot available.

 

I can't agree with this. At the very least, roster availability had to be part of the equation for Hendry. Despite a roster spot being open at the time, the needs of the team were varied, and I suspect that Hendry didn't want clog his roster which would cause additional decisions in the future.

 

Likewise, I can't agree with Truffle. As I've stated numerous times, I would not have left Sisco unprotected due to various reasons. A component of that reasoning includes the fact that there was roster manueverability in light of people like Koronka and Rohlicek taking up spots. However, while I see that as manueverability, Hendry likely did not because these two were more "major league ready" than Sisco by virtue of their experience.

 

I still don't see why you don't protect Sisco. The Cubs really aren't in that much of a crunch with their 40 man roster, since they have about 4 guys on it who aren't much to speak of. If you end up in a situation where you really need 4 other spots, then fine, take Sisco off and expose him to waivers. But the chances of that happening were always pretty slim.

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Wow. This guy is gone. See you later Andy Sisco.

 

This sucks big time. I never thought he'd have this kind of success this year. Bad move by Hendry, but honestly, who could've guessed it? He can't be this good, he'll come back to earth, but with such a great start he's not coming back unless he pulls an Ankiel.

 

He's not coming back regardless of the rest of the season's performance. The Royals suck and can afford to keep him all year.

 

As stated by others, the problem wasn't management not forseeing this success this quick in Sisco, it was the moronic gamble they took when complete garbage like Stephen Randolph was (temporarily) given a 40-man spot instead.

 

On the other hand, I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts that Sisco's success results from being a power lefty facing a few batters only one time in a game. The novelty works in his favor. Using him this way for an entire season will stunt his growth unless the Royals plan to use him as a power closer, which diminishes his long-term value, which would be as a #1 or #2 starter.

 

A top line major league starter needs to develop several good pitches and to learn how to adjust during a game as batters in the league learn his stengths and weaknesses. Pitching in the minors would give Sisco that experience. His current workload won't. And if KC wanted to return him to the minors next year to upgrade his skills, how would Sisco react? Not very maturely, I think.

 

At this rate, neither the Cubs nor the Royals will see Sisco as a top line starter. If KC wants to send him to the minors this year to maximize his long-term potential, they will have to pay the Cubs "Royally" for the privilege.

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On the other hand, I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts that Sisco's success results from being a power lefty facing a few batters only one time in a game. The novelty works in his favor. Using him this way for an entire season will stunt his growth unless the Royals plan to use him as a power closer, which diminishes his long-term value, which would be as a #1 or #2 starter.

 

A top line major league starter needs to develop several good pitches and to learn how to adjust during a game as batters in the league learn his stengths and weaknesses. Pitching in the minors would give Sisco that experience. His current workload won't. And if KC wanted to return him to the minors next year to upgrade his skills, how would Sisco react? Not very maturely, I think.

 

At this rate, neither the Cubs nor the Royals will see Sisco as a top line starter. If KC wants to send him to the minors this year to maximize his long-term potential, they will have to pay the Cubs "Royally" for the privilege.

 

In the same way that former Rule V pick, Johan Santana, was hurt by coming out of the pen for the Twins?

 

Sisco is getting regular work, not being hidden in the back of the Royal's pen, and he's getting that work against major leaguers. I doubt that's really hurting his development much.

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Man, the last thing I was worried about this season was whether or not Sisco would have a sub 2 era, IN THE MAJORS.
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At this point, I wish we could convince the Royals that they can just keep Sisco, who they completely love, and send us Eli Marrero to give up our claims on Andy. We could really use Marrero for our bench. He kills LHP, and we need a good RH batter for our bench with Hairston pressed into the starting lineup, and Dubois (hopefully) about to get regular time in LF. Plus, Marrero is a much better emergency 3rd catcher than Gremlin, giving Hendry even one less reason to keep the turd on the team.

 

Shoot, at this point I'd be willling to renounce all rights to Sisco if the ONLY thing we got out of it was to be rid of Gremlin.

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Why would the Royals want to give anything up to keep Sisco on the minors? He's their best pitcher in the majors right now.
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Wow, they really have faith in Sisco. He just came into the sox/royals game with the royals up 3-2 with 2 runners on and 1 out in the 8th. He struck out Dye and looks amazing.
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Man, the last thing I was worried about this season was whether or not Sisco would have a sub 2 era, IN THE MAJORS.

 

Sisco is throwing well right now but what's to say he won't get fat and lazy again? Once his "revenge" thing is over I expect him to go back to the same bad habits he was in before.

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Wow, they really have faith in Sisco. He just came into the sox/royals game with the royals up 3-2 with 2 runners on and 1 out in the 8th. He struck out Dye and looks amazing.

 

And then blew the save giving up 2 hits. :evil:

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Wow, they really have faith in Sisco. He just came into the sox/royals game with the royals up 3-2 with 2 runners on and 1 out in the 8th. He struck out Dye and looks amazing.

 

And then blew the save giving up 2 hits. :evil:

 

It will be interesting to see how he reacts to the blown save. Still, his own numbers remane strong with another K and 1.29 ERA.

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It will be interesting to see how he reacts to the blown save. Still, his own numbers remane strong with another K and 1.29 ERA.
Why did he have to be remaned? What happened to his original mane? :lol:

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