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Baseball Prospectus chimes in on the Sisco debate -

 

"Best VORP of any reliever in baseball? That’s right: Kansas City Rule-Fiver Andy Sisco."

 

For non-BP readers, Value Over Replacement Player (VORP) measures the impact a player has had versus a theoretically available league average pick-up. In short, he's the most valuable reliever in this short sample.

 

Also of note: Sisco's VORP exceeds that of one of the starting pitchers on his team. Of the 2 other teams to sport such a dubious honor - the Cubs with Glendon Rusch outdoing Zambrano. Now that one I do not follow?

 

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=3993

 

yeah, i had mentioned this a couple times in this thread (though it's probably buried a page or two back now) :)

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Its about time he gives up 2 runs!!

 

A really ugly line, actually:

 

Pitchers IP  H  R ER BB SO HR PC-ST ERA 

A Sisco (L, 0-1; B, 2) 1.0 3 2 2 1 2 0 25-14 1.89 

 

It looks like they tried him as a closer. Probably not the best idea on KC's part. I suspect it will be interesting to see how he reacts now, since he had so much early success. While he bounced back nicely from opening day, this may have a more substantial effect on him.

 

Why'd it have to be against the friggin' White Sox!?

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The one thing that keeps me a little sane about this thread is johan santana. The astros let him go in the rule v draft. The Sisco mistake cant be as bad as the Santana mistake. The Cubs are dumb, but not as dumb as the astros i say to myself.
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The one thing that keeps me a little sane about this thread is johan santana. The astros let him go in the rule v draft. The Sisco mistake cant be as bad as the Santana mistake. The Cubs are dumb, but not as dumb as the astros i say to myself.

 

Don't forget the Pirates got Roberto Clemente thanks to Rule V!

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The one thing that keeps me a little sane about this thread is johan santana. The astros let him go in the rule v draft. The Sisco mistake cant be as bad as the Santana mistake. The Cubs are dumb, but not as dumb as the astros i say to myself.

 

Don't forget the Pirates got Roberto Clemente thanks to Rule V!

 

Ahhh, i didnt know that, but i already knew the Cubs arent as dumb as the pirates. 8)

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The one thing that keeps me a little sane about this thread is johan santana. The astros let him go in the rule v draft. The Sisco mistake cant be as bad as the Santana mistake. The Cubs are dumb, but not as dumb as the astros i say to myself.

 

Don't forget the Pirates got Roberto Clemente thanks to Rule V!

 

Ahhh, i didnt know that, but i already knew the Cubs arent as dumb as the pirates. 8)

 

Actually, the Dodgers let him go. My bad on not typing the team that let him go in the last post.

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The one thing that keeps me a little sane about this thread is johan santana. The astros let him go in the rule v draft. The Sisco mistake cant be as bad as the Santana mistake. The Cubs are dumb, but not as dumb as the astros i say to myself.

 

Don't forget the Pirates got Roberto Clemente thanks to Rule V!

 

Ahhh, i didnt know that, but i already knew the Cubs arent as dumb as the pirates. 8)

 

Actually, the Dodgers let him go. My bad on not typing the team that let him go in the last post.

 

Nah, what was i thinking he played as a pirate duh. The dodgers, hmmmm. Anyway, if santana's success in his first mlb year is any indication of how much a cellar dweller team might with stick with a talented player, it doesnt bode well for the Cubs. Santana was awful.

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Its about time he gives up 2 runs!!

 

A really ugly line, actually:

 

Pitchers IP  H  R ER BB SO HR PC-ST ERA 

A Sisco (L, 0-1; B, 2) 1.0 3 2 2 1 2 0 25-14 1.89 

 

It looks like they tried him as a closer. Probably not the best idea on KC's part. I suspect it will be interesting to see how he reacts now, since he had so much early success. While he bounced back nicely from opening day, this may have a more substantial effect on him.

 

Why'd it have to be against the friggin' White Sox!?

 

Hey JC, why do you think that this game will have more of an effect that the opening day game problems. To me i would think the opening day game would have destroyed his early confidence...which it didn't. The thing with sisco is though no one knows him, we'll see how the league adjusts over the year.

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Its about time he gives up 2 runs!!

 

A really ugly line, actually:

 

Pitchers IP  H  R ER BB SO HR PC-ST ERA 

A Sisco (L, 0-1; B, 2) 1.0 3 2 2 1 2 0 25-14 1.89 

 

It looks like they tried him as a closer. Probably not the best idea on KC's part. I suspect it will be interesting to see how he reacts now, since he had so much early success. While he bounced back nicely from opening day, this may have a more substantial effect on him.

 

Why'd it have to be against the friggin' White Sox!?

 

Hey JC, why do you think that this game will have more of an effect that the opening day game problems. To me i would think the opening day game would have destroyed his early confidence...which it didn't. The thing with sisco is though no one knows him, we'll see how the league adjusts over the year.

 

In part because he got saddled with the loss. If was as immature as everyone says he was, he may have some difficulty shaking that first loss off. Also, he was probably feeling pretty good about himself after his ridiculous scoreless streak. He may not have that confidence that was built by 16 straight scoreless innings.

 

Of course, that is all speculation.

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this may have been mentioned but i know the sox hit him earlier in the year. the second time that teams face him may make all the difference and his flukish start may crash.
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Sisco made another appearance today late in the game. He got one out, issued two walks, didn't allow a run, but got another blown save. As dominant as he has been, he has 4 blown saves on the year (but I think only one in the true "save" sense that we mostly think of when it comes to saves).

 

Kinda weird.

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heh, the white sox scored their only two runs on bases loaded walks.

 

I'll say it again, you can't walk across the plate.

 

On oldy, but a goody. (I bet Raw hates that one as bad a "base clogging").

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sisco k's mora, tejada and palmeiro all in a row.

 

:shock:

Another nice outing overall for Andy: 1.3 IP, 4K, 1BB.

 

I'd also like to take this opportunity to rant about Royals TV announcers Bob Davis and Paul Splittorf: Not once did they refer to Sisco as anything other than "Andrew Sisco." Never just Sisco, or Andy, or even Andrew. Always "Andrew Sisco." I'm not sure why but that just annoyed the heck out of me after I'd always seen him referred to as Andy Sisco over the past few years.

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sisco k's mora, tejada and palmeiro all in a row.

 

:shock:

Another nice outing overall for Andy: 1.3 IP, 4K, 1BB.

 

I'd also like to take this opportunity to rant about Royals TV announcers Bob Davis and Paul Splittorf: Not once did they refer to Sisco as anything other than "Andrew Sisco." Never just Sisco, or Andy, or even Andrew. Always "Andrew Sisco." I'm not sure why but that just annoyed the heck out of me after I'd always seen him referred to as Andy Sisco over the past few years.

 

They probably figured no one was watching anyway. You may want to give them a head's up when you turn on the game so they will know they have an audience. I know I try to do that favor for Dewayne whenever I flip on the Rays. :D

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You know, i'd post that we should swap a prospect and rights to Sisco to Kansas City for SOMEONE to help us in the pen...but they don't HAVE anyone to help us in the pen....

 

:(

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You know, i'd post that we should swap a prospect and rights to Sisco to Kansas City for SOMEONE to help us in the pen...but they don't HAVE anyone to help us in the pen....

 

:(

 

It's pretty ironic that the only one in the pen who would be worth trading for is Sisco, isn't it?

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And even more ironic that, even if we gave up a good prospect to get him back, he would instantly fall apart as a Cub, either sucking so much he winds up at single-A, or the first game for the Cubs breaking something and being out half a season :x

 

Stupid freaking curse....

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Pitched the Royals' only scoreless inning in a 12-8 loss against the Baltimore Orioles.

 

Sisco had 2 walks, didn't K a batter, but still escaped unscathed.

 

JC, continue to gleam :D

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