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19 hours ago, Irrelevant Dude said:

Posting here as this seems most relevant to this thread based on it's title...

I get that having all the separate articles might help drive traffic from an SEO standpoint, but these forums feel like a disorganized mess now.  There have been attempts to consolidate posts into single trade deadline threads, but other threads and articles continue to pop up.  It's great that we have more people posting, but the activity is way too fragmented for my liking.  I don't know what the right answer is, but I don't think the answer is having 5 separate ongoing conversations about the trade deadline.

If you have the ability to merge every one, then that's the answer.

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So their 19th and 29th best prospects and an established ML player that was worth ~3 wins last year but has been pretty terrible this year.  

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Necessary caveats that no team will see two players exactly alike, but if you were to pattern match that deal I think it would look something like Madrigal, Velazquez/Canario, and Luis Vazquez.  Clearly took a hit on upside to get several players with MLB readiness.

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2 minutes ago, CubinNY said:

One of the BN guys says the Cubs are talking to the Nats about Candelareo. Meh on that. 

 

Yep, don't like it. 

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5 minutes ago, CaliforniaRaisin said:

Jeimer doesn't sound like he'll be too expensive and really plug a big weakness in the offense.

Yeah I don't understand why people hate it prior to knowing the cost of acquiring him.  He provides offense and defense at a major position of need.  

His 3.1 fWAR this year would be 2nd on the Cubs behind only Dansby Swanson who is at 3.3.

His splits are worse vs. LHP this year but over his career they are better than his splits against RHP 

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3 minutes ago, CaliforniaRaisin said:

Jeimer doesn't sound like he'll be too expensive and really plug a big weakness in the offense.

Honestly don’t see this as an upgrade worth losing a top 20 organizational prospect. Maybe Madrigal for Candelario would be ok. Nats get a controlled guy for a few years. Cubs don’t really lose much. For this year it helps a little. For 24’ they probably get rid of a guy who might not have a any place on the roster anyway. 

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I'm definitely a little meh on Candelario and going after rentals. But I think he can definitely offer an upgrade down the stretch for this team. I could get behind it at the right price.

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Candelario would be a perfectly cromulent rental upgrade. I doubt the price would be that expensive as a pure rental.

I obviously knew he used to be one of our prospects, but I had completely forgotten he did get a brief callup here 

I'm sure people will pitch a fit if the prospect appeared on some random list at some point.

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I'm not against the idea of Candelario.  I don't think he's a stud, and worry there's a bit of inflation (batted ball data is less good than his raw results so far in places).  I'm skeptical of his ability to play 3b (he's usually a negative fielder there).  With that said, he probably won't be super expensive, and he'd provide an upgrade.

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Just now, UMFan83 said:

To add to the report:  Kap said it would likely cost the Cubs "2 mid-level prospects" for Candelario

I'll call it; Perlaza and someone like Killian or Franklin.  The Nationals love tools.  They can't develop them for horsefeathers, however.

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4 minutes ago, JD94 said:

We better not give up much for a platoon 3B. 

He's never hurt the team vs LHB except last year when he plain sucked across the board. This year he's at a 91, close to average. But we will gladly take the bat vs the dominant side anyway.

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2 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

To add to the report:  Kap said it would likely cost the Cubs "2 mid-level prospects" for Candelario

If I may add, both of the prospects are Rule 5 eligible for the first time this offseason.

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Just now, CaliforniaRaisin said:

If I may add, both of the prospects are Rule 5 eligible for the first time this offseason.

So, definitively Perlaza is one.

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