Bears Week 7 @ Patriots, Monday Night Football 10/24

[WrigleyField 22]

 

I've been thinking about this for a couple weeks now and I just don't get it.

 

I'd certainly kick the tires on Fuller, dump one of Pettis and/or Smith-Marsette.

 

Don't kick Fuller's tires or he'll get hurt.

Which is a fair risk, and may play into why he hasn't signed. He may just be tired of constant rehabs and is ready to call it quits short of a godfather opportunity.

[Derwood]

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[jersey cubs fan]

They didn’t have to list each of his mistakes individually when announcing the release. That’s mean.

[UMFan83]

They didn’t have to list each of his mistakes individually when announcing the release. That’s mean.

 

Holy horsefeathers that's savage

[Derwood]

They didn’t have to list each of his mistakes individually when announcing the release. That’s mean.

 

Holy horsefeathers that's savage

 

I mean, the guy was involved in three plays, all bad. He doesn't have a resume of success

[UMFan83]

They didn’t have to list each of his mistakes individually when announcing the release. That’s mean.

 

Holy horsefeathers that's savage

 

I mean, the guy was involved in three plays, all bad. He doesn't have a resume of success

 

I'm not talking about the decision to cut him, I'm talking about the decision to list all the ways he fucked up over the last 2 weeks on the official team press release announcing the move.

[Derwood]

 

Holy horsefeathers that's savage

 

I mean, the guy was involved in three plays, all bad. He doesn't have a resume of success

 

I'm not talking about the decision to cut him, I'm talking about the decision to list all the ways he horsefeathers up over the last 2 weeks on the official team press release announcing the move.

 

I know....I'm saying the only things he has done have been bad, so you either list nothing or you list the handful of plays that he was in. It feels mean, but it's not like he also caught 3 TD or had a 100 yard game that they could mention

[David]

this guy

[jersey cubs fan]

 

I mean, the guy was involved in three plays, all bad. He doesn't have a resume of success

 

I'm not talking about the decision to cut him, I'm talking about the decision to list all the ways he horsefeathers up over the last 2 weeks on the official team press release announcing the move.

 

I know....I'm saying the only things he has done have been bad, so you either list nothing or you list the handful of plays that he was in. It feels mean, but it's not like he also caught 3 TD or had a 100 yard game that they could mention

The standard is just say he was released, then you give info on the replacement.

[gflore34]

He was terrible, unfortunately aspect was, given the Bears razor thin margin for error, every mistake is magnified. Do not know of the politics involved with itemizing all of his mistakes. However, it's no secret he sucked. Now, on to benching Pettis and Mustipher. Edited October 18, 2022 by gflore34

[Hairyducked Idiot]

 

Fields has a massive processing problem. I don't know if it's good news or bad news.

 

He clearly knows the playbook. He's making pre snap reads and his eyes are usually where they are supposed to be. But whatever is supposed to fire in his brain and say "there it is throw the ball" doesn't fire on a lot of plays.

 

I don't know if that's less or more fixable than not knowing the playbook

[UMFan83]

 

Fields has a massive processing problem. I don't know if it's good news or bad news.

 

He clearly knows the playbook. He's making pre snap reads and his eyes are usually where they are supposed to be. But whatever is supposed to fire in his brain and say "there it is throw the ball" doesn't fire on a lot of plays.

 

I don't know if that's less or more fixable than not knowing the playbook

 

I wasn't going to watch any of these videos this week but I guess I am now. I would say it was his complaint coming out of college and its still a problem in his 2nd season so it should be pretty concerning at this point. Are there any examples of players who overcame a clear inability to process/throw the ball on time?

[Soul]

 

Fields has a massive processing problem. I don't know if it's good news or bad news.

 

He clearly knows the playbook. He's making pre snap reads and his eyes are usually where they are supposed to be. But whatever is supposed to fire in his brain and say "there it is throw the ball" doesn't fire on a lot of plays.

 

I don't know if that's less or more fixable than not knowing the playbook

 

I wasn't going to watch any of these videos this week but I guess I am now. I would say it was his complaint coming out of college and its still a problem in his 2nd season so it should be pretty concerning at this point. Are there any examples of players who overcame a clear inability to process/throw the ball on time?

 

Josh Allen maybe, recently. He's an outlier but there's the best example I can come up with.

 

Didn't Roethlisberger hold on to the ball a long time, but just scrambled his way to TD passes? Fields has the ability to get out of trouble but I think he's going to need help from a competent WR/TE/RB group to get open consistently in the scramble drill. Definitely not this group.

[UMFan83]

It's sad that I can remember almost all of these games and the reasons they were considered crazy losses

 

 

(Moving from left to right)

 

1. Double Doink

2. 4th and long 45 yard TD pass from Rodgers to Cobb to win division over Bears

3. Trestman has Gould kick long FG on 2nd down in OT and he misses

4. Barber running out of bounds; Tebow time

5. Blew 20-3 lead with doped up Rodgers returning from injury to beat Bears

6. Packers score TD on 6 of their 7 first half drives. The one they didn't score a TD on they lost a fumble inside the Bears 10 yard line

7. Bears fail to score points on 3 drives inside the Washington 10 and 2 drives inside the 1, lose by an inch on 4th and goal

8. This one I'm not 100% about, I'm guessing this is the game Fox challenged a call that would have given them a TD rather than 1st and goal from the 1 inch line, and he ended up winning the challenge but the result was the Packers getting the ball

9. Russell Wilson drove down the field and scored TDs at the end of regulation and then OT to beat the Bears.

10. That ugly TNF opener after the 2018 division champs season

11. Fields first start with record breaking levels of anemic offense

12. After Cutler's injury, the Bears had several chances to score but couldn't. The GW touchdown was scored on a hail mary at the end of the 1st half

13. I can't remember why this one is considered crazy. It was Kaepernick's first start and no one thought he was good so it was surprising that he crushed us, but the Bears were starting Jason Campbell that day so its not like we should have expected to win

14. I don't remember anything too crazy here other than this being the game where Rodgers told Bears fans he owns us

15. Playoff loss; dropped TD, Trubisky NVP

16. Bears lose on 5 Gould FGs

17. Bears needed to win to clinch a playoff spot in week 16 and avoid having to beat Packers to get in. Eagles were still in the playoff hunt but it was already determined that this game had no meaning for them as Week 17 would solely decide whether they made the playoffs. With almost everything on the line for the Bears and absolutely nothing for the Eagles they got throttled

18. London game that everyone expected the Bears to win and they didn't.

19. Big FA disappointment tears his ACL while celebrating his first sack of the season in mid-October, which was against the Patriots backup in garbage time of a blowout.

20. Bears blow a 10 point lead with 3 minutes left and lose in regulation

 

Yes I'm very bored at work

[Derwood]

 

I'm not talking about the decision to cut him, I'm talking about the decision to list all the ways he horsefeathers up over the last 2 weeks on the official team press release announcing the move.

 

I know....I'm saying the only things he has done have been bad, so you either list nothing or you list the handful of plays that he was in. It feels mean, but it's not like he also caught 3 TD or had a 100 yard game that they could mention

The standard is just say he was released, then you give info on the replacement.

 

Maybe he pissed someone off. Who knows.

[raw]

Yeah, it makes no sense why Fuller isn't signed. At this point, he has to just want to play. Can't be waiting on a certain dollar amount, can't wait on a contender. He needs to be on the field trying to pull a contract for next season. If he doesn't play this year, I'd think he might be done. And he's too good to be out of the league already.

 

Maybe Fuller doesn't check the speed box for Poles? Don't believe he checks the size box. At this point Fields needs someone who can just catch the horsefeathering ball, screw size or speed.

 

I'm pretty sure he was a 4.3 guy when he was drafted. He has plenty speed.

[BigSlick]

The Marion Barber doesn't go out of bounds loss hurts but I'm surprised the Falcons game from...2009 or 2010 or so they lost after taking the lead with like 20 seconds to go and the Falcons get in field goal range on like 1 play was pretty devastating.

 

Regarding everything else : Trade any defensive player for value, get whatever you can. Trade down if you have a high pick, get as many picks as possible. This all seems eminently urgent to me.

 

Its borderline criminal that they didn't do more to give Fields protection before this year. Utterly unfair to let him "develop" and experience under these conditions. Of course, it plays until typical Bears narrative that makes it more difficult to evaluate how good he actually is. The wheel turns and the story stays the same....

[Soul]

"2. 4th and long 45 yard TD pass from Rodgers to Cobb to win division over Bears"

 

 

Of all the terrible losses on that list, this one brings back a horrible memory among the horrible. I was sitting in a Vegas casino, money riding on the game and thinking just one more play and glory!

 

Ouch. And of course people all around exploded in cheers.

[UMFan83]

The Marion Barber doesn't go out of bounds loss hurts but I'm surprised the Falcons game from...2009 or 2010 or so they lost after taking the lead with like 20 seconds to go and the Falcons get in field goal range on like 1 play was pretty devastating.

 

Regarding everything else : Trade any defensive player for value, get whatever you can. Trade down if you have a high pick, get as many picks as possible. This all seems eminently urgent to me.

 

Its borderline criminal that they didn't do more to give Fields protection before this year. Utterly unfair to let him "develop" and experience under these conditions. Of course, it plays until typical Bears narrative that makes it more difficult to evaluate how good he actually is. The wheel turns and the story stays the same....

 

For whatever reason the list was craziest losses since 2011 so the Falcons game wouldn’t apply

[UMFan83]

[raw]

 

Interesting. Montgomery/Herbert are literally taking turns having strong games. And when both are healthy, they stick to a pretty strict plan of Herbert every 3rd drive.

 

Week 1- Herbert 9-45, Monty 17-26

Week 2- Monty 15-122, Herbert 4-38

Week 3- Herbert 20-157, Monty 3-11 (injured this game)

Week 4- Montgomery hurt

Week 5- Monty 12-20 (4 catches, 62 yards), Herbert 4-11

Week 6- Herbert 7-75, Monty 15-67

 

But this smells like not committing to Montgomery and I wonder if potential trade talks happen soon.

[mul21]

"2. 4th and long 45 yard TD pass from Rodgers to Cobb to win division over Bears"

 

 

Of all the terrible losses on that list, this one brings back a horrible memory among the horrible. I was sitting in a Vegas casino, money riding on the game and thinking just one more play and glory!

 

Ouch. And of course people all around exploded in cheers.

 

This was one of like 4 Bears games I've been to. It was like 10 degrees that day and that ending made it an absolutely awful afternoon.

[UMFan83]

"2. 4th and long 45 yard TD pass from Rodgers to Cobb to win division over Bears"

 

 

Of all the terrible losses on that list, this one brings back a horrible memory among the horrible. I was sitting in a Vegas casino, money riding on the game and thinking just one more play and glory!

 

Ouch. And of course people all around exploded in cheers.

 

This was one of like 4 Bears games I've been to. It was like 10 degrees that day and that ending made it an absolutely awful afternoon.

 

I went to the NFC championship game in 2011 (2010 season). I managed to find a single ticket during the week that popped up on Ticketmaster so I went alone. I ended up literally boxed in by Packers fans. Almost my entire row and the rows in front and in back of me were all Packers fans. What a miserable experience it was, though they mostly left me alone.

[WrigleyField 22]

He was last at this stat last year as well, but not "far and away" worst. He defintiely has seemed less accurate on the short throws this year (long throws have seemee fine).

 

Last years for reference.

[raw]

 

Fields has a massive processing problem. I don't know if it's good news or bad news.

 

He clearly knows the playbook. He's making pre snap reads and his eyes are usually where they are supposed to be. But whatever is supposed to fire in his brain and say "there it is throw the ball" doesn't fire on a lot of plays.

 

I don't know if that's less or more fixable than not knowing the playbook

 

I feel like his processing would speed up if he really knew the playbook. Making the reads and getting his eyes to the right place seem more like he's able to read coverages and know what the defense is trying to do to him (this is good). But yeah, that "there it is, throw the ball" difficulty seems more like he's not completely comfortable with the playbook (maybe not sure if the receiver should sit down or will keep going). So, my interpretation is this is good news?

 

Of course, that's what I want it to be as well. But the biggest concern is that nothing seems to be consistent. Sometimes he's anticipating, sometimes he's firing the ball to players out of breaks. His 15+ yard accuracy is amazing, but short is bad. I just he had something that we could consistently look at and say, "see, he's getting it". Maybe the presnap reads and eyes are it.