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There were several Nats WS picks before the season. As mentioned earlier, they might can pull a Schilling/Johnson all the way to a title.

Cardinals went 5-2 against them this year, including 3 of 4 at home and have home field advantage. With Anibal Sanchez starting game 1. This won't be a cakewalk. Especially since it'll set up where Wainwright only pitches at home.

 

Cardinals beat Scherzer twice this year.

 

none of these things mean anything, I dont understand why people cite stuff like this in baseball

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There were several Nats WS picks before the season. As mentioned earlier, they might can pull a Schilling/Johnson all the way to a title.

Cardinals went 5-2 against them this year, including 3 of 4 at home and have home field advantage. With Anibal Sanchez starting game 1. This won't be a cakewalk. Especially since it'll set up where Wainwright only pitches at home.

 

Cardinals beat Scherzer twice this year.

 

none of these things mean anything, I dont understand why people cite stuff like this in baseball

 

1998 Cubs ended my belief in those stats.

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Wonder what Bryce Harper is thinking right now.

 

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hahahahahaha this is perfect

Well to be fair it's not like any other option would have left him broke.

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There were several Nats WS picks before the season. As mentioned earlier, they might can pull a Schilling/Johnson all the way to a title.

Cardinals went 5-2 against them this year, including 3 of 4 at home and have home field advantage. With Anibal Sanchez starting game 1. This won't be a cakewalk. Especially since it'll set up where Wainwright only pitches at home.

 

Cardinals beat Scherzer twice this year.

 

cardinals were 2-4 against the barves in the regular season

 

The Cubs were 8-11 against the Cardinals and 7-0 against the Mets in 2015.

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There were several Nats WS picks before the season. As mentioned earlier, they might can pull a Schilling/Johnson all the way to a title.

Cardinals went 5-2 against them this year, including 3 of 4 at home and have home field advantage. With Anibal Sanchez starting game 1. This won't be a cakewalk. Especially since it'll set up where Wainwright only pitches at home.

 

Cardinals beat Scherzer twice this year.

 

none of these things mean anything, I dont understand why people cite stuff like this in baseball

Beating Scherzer twice does mean something, lol. Sorry you can't do "small samples!!!" to things like that. That guy wrecked almost every one he faced.

 

Since Jeff Albert (came over from Houston) became the primary hitting coach, the Cardinals have had the 4th best offense in baseball.

 

Nationals, like the Braves, have a crap bullpen. You need that to win in the playoffs. Cardinals will just hack fouls and take take take until the 5th-6th when starters are lifted and feast on their pen. Just like we did Atlanta.

 

I don't put a lot of stock into WAR for pitchers when the stat doesn't consider weak contact/ground balls. And that's the moneyball market efficiency that Cardinals were all-in on. Mikolas, Waino, and Hudson are all groundball specialists. The whole staff is. With Edman and Wong and DeJong in the infield... it'll be smooth sailing barring crazy BABIP luck. Cardinals are the best postseason team remaining with HR/FB rates too. We keep the ball in the park in a homer-crazy league. That's how you win. That's how we'll beat the Nationals.

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Must be nice to have such a forward thinking front office that is willing to commit the resources of probably one horsefeathering intern to watch tape to see if an upcoming pitcher tips pitches. Also having players who show up more than an hour before the game to go over things and having a manager who takes info from the FO and implements it.

 

https://twitter.com/kevinfrandsen/status/1182437431154335744?s=21

 

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There were several Nats WS picks before the season. As mentioned earlier, they might can pull a Schilling/Johnson all the way to a title.

Cardinals went 5-2 against them this year, including 3 of 4 at home and have home field advantage. With Anibal Sanchez starting game 1. This won't be a cakewalk. Especially since it'll set up where Wainwright only pitches at home.

 

Cardinals beat Scherzer twice this year.

 

cardinals were 2-4 against the barves in the regular season

 

amazes me that anyone would think something like that matters after witnessing the 2015 cubs

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17 Seconds

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Cardinals went 5-2 against them this year, including 3 of 4 at home and have home field advantage. With Anibal Sanchez starting game 1. This won't be a cakewalk. Especially since it'll set up where Wainwright only pitches at home.

 

Cardinals beat Scherzer twice this year.

 

none of these things mean anything, I dont understand why people cite stuff like this in baseball

Beating Scherzer twice does mean something, lol. Sorry you can't do "small samples!!!" to things like that. That guy wrecked almost every one he faced.

 

Since Jeff Albert (came over from Houston) became the primary hitting coach, the Cardinals have had the 4th best offense in baseball.

 

Nationals, like the Braves, have a crap bullpen. You need that to win in the playoffs. Cardinals will just hack fouls and take take take until the 5th-6th when starters are lifted and feast on their pen. Just like we did Atlanta.

 

I don't put a lot of stock into WAR for pitchers when the stat doesn't consider weak contact/ground balls. And that's the moneyball market efficiency that Cardinals were all-in on. Mikolas, Waino, and Hudson are all groundball specialists. The whole staff is. With Edman and Wong and DeJong in the infield... it'll be smooth sailing barring crazy BABIP luck. Cardinals are the best postseason team remaining with HR/FB rates too. We keep the ball in the park in a homer-crazy league. That's how you win. That's how we'll beat the Nationals.

 

you're a weird guy

 

there's like a 50% chance of each team winning and your anecdotes mean nothing

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Must be nice to have such a forward thinking front office that is willing to commit the resources of probably one horsefeathering intern to watch tape to see if an upcoming pitcher tips pitches. Also having players who show up more than an hour before the game to go over things and having a manager who takes info from the FO and implements it.

 

https://twitter.com/kevinfrandsen/status/1182437431154335744?s=21

 

 

Pretty impressive how Kevin Frandsen and Trevor Plouffe managed to figure out the secret to Tyler Glasnow while he put up a 1.78 ERA this season. They'll certainly have coaching jobs by tomorrow.

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Must be nice to have such a forward thinking front office that is willing to commit the resources of probably one horsefeathering intern to watch tape to see if an upcoming pitcher tips pitches. Also having players who show up more than an hour before the game to go over things and having a manager who takes info from the FO and implements it.

 

https://twitter.com/kevinfrandsen/status/1182437431154335744?s=21

 

 

Pretty impressive how Kevin Frandsen and Trevor Plouffe managed to figure out the secret to Tyler Glasnow while he put up a 1.78 ERA this season. They'll certainly have coaching jobs by tomorrow.

The post game showed it on FS1. When he was going breaking ball or FB his glove was set higher or lower depending on the pitch. I forget which it was, but every FB his glove was either at his stomach or chest and every breaking ball the glove was the opposite and either higher/lower around his chest/stomach.

 

 

Edit: he admitted it

 

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Cardinals went 5-2 against them this year, including 3 of 4 at home and have home field advantage. With Anibal Sanchez starting game 1. This won't be a cakewalk. Especially since it'll set up where Wainwright only pitches at home.

 

Cardinals beat Scherzer twice this year.

 

none of these things mean anything, I dont understand why people cite stuff like this in baseball

Beating Scherzer twice does mean something, lol. Sorry you can't do "small samples!!!" to things like that. That guy wrecked almost every one he faced.

 

Since Jeff Albert (came over from Houston) became the primary hitting coach, the Cardinals have had the 4th best offense in baseball.

 

Nationals, like the Braves, have a crap bullpen. You need that to win in the playoffs. Cardinals will just hack fouls and take take take until the 5th-6th when starters are lifted and feast on their pen. Just like we did Atlanta.

 

I don't put a lot of stock into WAR for pitchers when the stat doesn't consider weak contact/ground balls. And that's the moneyball market efficiency that Cardinals were all-in on. Mikolas, Waino, and Hudson are all groundball specialists. The whole staff is. With Edman and Wong and DeJong in the infield... it'll be smooth sailing barring crazy BABIP luck. Cardinals are the best postseason team remaining with HR/FB rates too. We keep the ball in the park in a homer-crazy league. That's how you win. That's how we'll beat the Nationals.

 

But would you trade Yadi for Mike Trout?

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none of these things mean anything, I dont understand why people cite stuff like this in baseball

Beating Scherzer twice does mean something, lol. Sorry you can't do "small samples!!!" to things like that. That guy wrecked almost every one he faced.

 

Since Jeff Albert (came over from Houston) became the primary hitting coach, the Cardinals have had the 4th best offense in baseball.

 

Nationals, like the Braves, have a crap bullpen. You need that to win in the playoffs. Cardinals will just hack fouls and take take take until the 5th-6th when starters are lifted and feast on their pen. Just like we did Atlanta.

 

I don't put a lot of stock into WAR for pitchers when the stat doesn't consider weak contact/ground balls. And that's the moneyball market efficiency that Cardinals were all-in on. Mikolas, Waino, and Hudson are all groundball specialists. The whole staff is. With Edman and Wong and DeJong in the infield... it'll be smooth sailing barring crazy BABIP luck. Cardinals are the best postseason team remaining with HR/FB rates too. We keep the ball in the park in a homer-crazy league. That's how you win. That's how we'll beat the Nationals.

 

But would you trade Yadi for Mike Trout?

 

Most Cardinal fans I know wouldn't trade Yadi for Willie Mays, Mickey Mantle, and Duke Snyder together in their respective primes.

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I think Yadi has been a great catcher but you bet your ass I would trade him for almost anyone who got 6+ WAR yearly.

 

Stop judging Cardinal fans by fringe Twitter and newspaper forums lol. There's plenty of smart ones that are ready to see the Yadi era end soon. Including me.

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none of these things mean anything, I dont understand why people cite stuff like this in baseball

Beating Scherzer twice does mean something, lol. Sorry you can't do "small samples!!!" to things like that. That guy wrecked almost every one he faced.

 

Since Jeff Albert (came over from Houston) became the primary hitting coach, the Cardinals have had the 4th best offense in baseball.

 

Nationals, like the Braves, have a crap bullpen. You need that to win in the playoffs. Cardinals will just hack fouls and take take take until the 5th-6th when starters are lifted and feast on their pen. Just like we did Atlanta.

 

I don't put a lot of stock into WAR for pitchers when the stat doesn't consider weak contact/ground balls. And that's the moneyball market efficiency that Cardinals were all-in on. Mikolas, Waino, and Hudson are all groundball specialists. The whole staff is. With Edman and Wong and DeJong in the infield... it'll be smooth sailing barring crazy BABIP luck. Cardinals are the best postseason team remaining with HR/FB rates too. We keep the ball in the park in a homer-crazy league. That's how you win. That's how we'll beat the Nationals.

 

But would you trade Yadi for Mike Trout?

 

Yadi will finish his career as a Cardinal, and that has been the plan since Pujols left. He's this generation's franchise player for St. Louis. And yes, I absolutely understand why fans from other teams hate him.

 

I was trying to come up with a comparable player in recent (2 decades) of a Cubs player and how fans regarded them. I'm having trouble finding a 15 year player with multiple all-star appearances and arguably a HOF career.

I think Rizzo is probably the closest as far as fans adoring a player. Am I missing somebody? Do we have to go back to the 60s/70s teams to do that?

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Beating Scherzer twice does mean something, lol. Sorry you can't do "small samples!!!" to things like that. That guy wrecked almost every one he faced.

 

Since Jeff Albert (came over from Houston) became the primary hitting coach, the Cardinals have had the 4th best offense in baseball.

 

Nationals, like the Braves, have a crap bullpen. You need that to win in the playoffs. Cardinals will just hack fouls and take take take until the 5th-6th when starters are lifted and feast on their pen. Just like we did Atlanta.

 

I don't put a lot of stock into WAR for pitchers when the stat doesn't consider weak contact/ground balls. And that's the moneyball market efficiency that Cardinals were all-in on. Mikolas, Waino, and Hudson are all groundball specialists. The whole staff is. With Edman and Wong and DeJong in the infield... it'll be smooth sailing barring crazy BABIP luck. Cardinals are the best postseason team remaining with HR/FB rates too. We keep the ball in the park in a homer-crazy league. That's how you win. That's how we'll beat the Nationals.

 

But would you trade Yadi for Mike Trout?

 

Yadi will finish his career as a Cardinal, and that has been the plan since Pujols left. He's this generation's franchise player for St. Louis. And yes, I absolutely understand why fans from other teams hate him.

 

I was trying to come up with a comparable player in recent (2 decades) of a Cubs player and how fans regarded them. I'm having trouble finding a 15 year player with multiple all-star appearances and arguably a HOF career.

I think Rizzo is probably the closest as far as fans adoring a player. Am I missing somebody? Do we have to go back to the 60s/70s teams to do that?

Sammy probably would've been that guy before the steroid stuff - and certainly before his ignominious exit - blew up that possibility.

 

Rizzo and Javy are probably the 2 guys with closest to a 100% approval rating on the current team, but obviously don't have anything close to Molina's longevity.

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Sammy was polarizing, though, between the steroid suspicions and dumb fans not liking the strikeouts and swing for the fences stuff.

 

At the time, I feel like Grace was pretty universally liked. Don't know how opposing fans felt about him though. And definitely not HOF worthy, but neither is Molina. I kinda always thought he was an horsefeathers though...at least, by the time I was old enough to have that kind of opinion on my own.

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Sammy was polarizing, though, between the steroid suspicions and dumb fans not liking the strikeouts and swing for the fences stuff.

 

At the time, I feel like Grace was pretty universally liked. Don't know how opposing fans felt about him though. And definitely not HOF worthy, but neither is Molina. I kinda always thought he was an horsefeathers though...at least, by the time I was old enough to have that kind of opinion on my own.

Hawk and Javy probably are the most beloved Cubs since I’ve started watching and old enough to pay attention to things like that.

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