2018 Actual MLB Draft Day(s) Thread

[Hrubes20]

every year i enjoy cubs fans watching the baseball draft like its the nfl draft

 

Given that these guys can now be dealt right after signing, there is potential immediate impact here for a contender like the Cubs at the deadline.

[ScrubMD]

every year i enjoy cubs fans watching the baseball draft like its the nfl draft

 

Given that these guys can now be dealt right after signing, there is potential immediate impact here for a contender like the Cubs at the deadline.

 

THEO!

 

[CaliforniaRaisin]

BA ranks:

 

Brennen Davis - 133

Cole Roederer - 161

Paul Richan - 164

 

Brennen Davis HS OF

 

School: Basha HS, Chandler, Ariz.

Ht: 6-4 | Wt: 175 | B-T: R-R | Commit/Drafted: Miami

Scouting Report: Davis has been a tough one to scout this spring, as he has struggled with a hamstring problem for much of his senior year. He was already more of a projection, having come to baseball late after spending more time playing basketball early in his high school career. Davis was a key contributor when Basha (Chandler, Ariz.) captured the Arizona 6A state championship in his junior year before he started focusing strictly on a baseball career. An above-average or better runner when healthy, the 6-foot-4, 175-pound Davis uses easy, graceful strides in the outfield and on the bases, an his above-average arm gets good carry. The big question with Davis is the development of his bat, as he is still very raw at the plate. He has good, quick hands, but doesn’t yet understand how to adjust them to the pitch or leverage his body, resulting in current below-average power. He showed improvement last fall at the WWBA World Championship in Jupiter, Fla., and scouts more recently have noticed more fluidity in his swing. Davis is your typical high-risk, high-reward prospect who would likely require two years of Rookie ball before advancing to a higher minor league level if he signs. He could go as high as the third round, but Davis is an outstanding student who could choose to honor his commitment to Miami if he drops too far in the draft.

 

Cole Roederer HS OF

 

School: Hart HS, Santa Clarita, Calif.

Ht: 6-0 | Wt: 175 | B-T: L-L | Commit/Drafted: UCLA

Scouting Report: Roederer is a small, athletic, lefthanded-hitting center fielder who began showing big power this year, drawing comparisons to Andrew Benintendi. He catapulted into third-round consideration before he separated his right (non-throwing) shoulder horsing around with teammates after practice and missed the final month of the season. Roederer is a toolsy player with bat speed who got stronger and reworked his swing to add power this season. He began launching long home runs on par with anyone in the region, enough for optimistic scouts to project him as a 20-25 home run hitter. The power rounded out Roederer’s well-rounded toolset. He is an above-average runner whose speed plays up in center field due to his advanced instincts and reads, and his arm is suitably average. With hints of all five tools and growing power, Roederer has the upside of an above-average everyday center fielder, but other scouts are skeptical of his size and injury history, which also includes a pulled hamstring this year. He is strongly committed to UCLA and will be an expensive sign.

 

Paul Richan 4YR RHP

 

School: San Diego

Ht: 6-3 | Wt: 200 | B-T: R-R | Commit/Drafted: Never drafted

Scouting Report: Richan supplanted Nick Sprengel as San Diego’s top starter and most-desired draft prospect this spring, launched in part by a dominant outing against Michigan at the Tony Gwynn Classic. Richan is a polished righthander with a four-pitch mix, headlined by a plus slider. At his best, Richan’s fastball sits 91-92 mph and touches 94, and he can mix in an average changeup as well. He uses his fastball and changeup to get ahead and then finishes batters with his slider. Richan tired as the season went on and sat more 88-91 mph toward the end, cooling some of the early interest. His fastball command also slipped at the end of the season and resulted in a lot of contact, although he still threw strikes. A poor finish made his season numbers look pedestrian, but Richan showed evaluators enough early in the year that they still consider him a talent worthy of a pick in the top five rounds.

[Bertz]

I think I like Davis. I love high end athletes, especially with our player development system there to make sure they learn how to hit. That said, I don't like that it appears that we punted pick #78 to sign him. I'm not even sure if I would have been okay with that for one of the guys that were expected to go in the 1st.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

MLB.com rankings:

 

Brennen Davis - 145

 

There are Draft prospects who are polished and show now tools, then there are ones who scouts have to dream on, projecting what tremendous raw tools might become. Davis, a one-time two-sport athlete, fits into the latter category with a high ceiling, but a long way to get there. A former basketball standout who was the Arizona 6A Defensive Player of the Year as a junior, Davis gave up the sport to focus on baseball. The result has been a better swing than had been seen previously and a body that's starting to transform because he's had time to spend in the weight room. There is still a crudeness to his offensive game, but there are flashes of the ability to hit for average and with power to come as he continues to add strength to his long, lanky frame. Right now, he has to sell out for that power and has instead focused on improving contact. A 70 runner normally, Davis dealt with a hamstring issue that slowed him some this spring, but that plus speed should allow him to steal bases and cover a ton of ground in center field, where he has a very strong arm. Davis will be a project for any team that tries to sign him away from his Miami commitment. But teams that love raw tools may look off into the future and see an Adam Jones or Lewis Brinson type if it all comes together.

 

Cole Roederer - NR: Video

 

Paul Richan - 175

 

As a sophomore at the University of San Diego, Richan began as a reliever, but gained confidence when given the chance to move into the rotation. He's been a weekend starter all year and while he's had some up-and-down results, he's far outperformed fellow Draft prospect Nick Sprengel. Richan has missed a ton of bats this spring, while walking very few, thanks to a solid four-pitch mix. He'll throw his fastball up to 94 mph consistently, complementing it with a pair of breaking balls. His slider will show flashes of being above-average and he'll fold in a fringy curve as well. His changeup continues to develop and could eventually be average when all is said and done. While he has a high strikeout rate, he's also been fairly hittable. Richan is more floor than ceiling, though he does have a solid delivery and a good 6-foot-3 pitcher's frame. His upside is as a No. 4 or 5 starter, one who could come off the board in the top six rounds, which would make him the first San Diego pitcher to be taken that early since David Hill was a fourth-round pick of the Rockies in 2015.

[ScrubMD]

every year i enjoy cubs fans watching the baseball draft like its the nfl draft

 

I mean, it’s not as straight-forward but evaluating the mlb draft isn’t rocket science.

 

You look at what number the pick is, then look at the pre-draft rankings, then you measure those against any standard list of numbers.

[r_mack]

every year i enjoy cubs fans watching the baseball draft like its the nfl draft

 

I mean, it’s not as straight-forward but evaluating the mlb draft isn’t rocket science.

 

You look at what number the pick is, then look at the pre-draft rankings, then you measure those against any standard list of numbers.

I mean, I trust MLB front offices over the mock drafts

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Original post updated. The scouting reports in that post are the free MLB.com ones.

[Hrubes20]

I follow the draft and Im not going to pretend I knew who Roederer was before that pick. Not only was he a big reach there, but they also have to overslot him to the point that they punt the 2nd comp pick? At least they weren’t all pitchers?

[Cubswin11]

Maybe that Roeder or Davis guy scored or rated really well on the crazy hand-eye coordination/VR stuff Theo and company developed? Plus hearing a Benintendi comp is interesting because it seemed like they were very high on him in his draft and probably would've taken him if he was there instead of Happ.

[davell]

Roederer as a tough sign..... Based on him being a top 150ish type, that could mean different things. Maybe he's slot at 775,100? Or he could be 7 figures. Hoerner? I'm guessing he gets between 2 and 2.5? David evidently is 1.2-1.5..... Let's figure 1.2. Richan seems like maybe we saved a bit too?

 

Best case scenario is we've gone 2 on Hoerner, 1.2 on Davis, slot on Roederer, and 500K on Richan. If that happened, we're sitting around 750k under slot, not counting overage or senior signs.....Which conceivably could still allow us to throw 2 mill at our 3rd Rounder. And use 7-10 on seniors.

 

More likely though, is we're sitting around slot right now. Which leaves 375K on overage and 500K on 7-10 senior signs..... Still would allow for a 1.2-1.3 mill type next round.

 

No idea. This is really tough to figure. Who knows? Maybe we're needing to save already lol.

[Hrubes20]

Roederer as a tough sign..... Based on him being a top 150ish type, that could mean different things. Maybe he's slot at 775,100? Or he could be 7 figures. Hoerner? I'm guessing he gets between 2 and 2.5? David evidently is 1.2-1.5..... Let's figure 1.2. Richan seems like maybe we saved a bit too?

 

Best case scenario is we've gone 2 on Hoerner, 1.2 on Davis, slot on Roederer, and 500K on Richan. If that happened, we're sitting around 750k under slot, not counting overage or senior signs.....Which conceivably could still allow us to throw 2 mill at our 3rd Rounder. And use 7-10 on seniors.

 

More likely though, is we're sitting around slot right now. Which leaves 375K on overage and 500K on 7-10 senior signs..... Still would allow for a 1.2-1.3 mill type next round.

 

No idea. This is really tough to figure. Who knows? Maybe we're needing to save already lol.

 

I read the Roederer blurb to mean he’s looking for 7 figures. That would be rough.

[mul21]

That scouting report on Richan sounds an awful lot like Hendricks with the being able to cut pitches in both directions, the velocity, and strike throwing.

[davell]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Savermetrics/status/1003866731297640448[/tweet]

 

That didn't take long lol.

[davell]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Savermetrics/status/1003869814597668864[/tweet]

 

Neither did that.

[davell]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Savermetrics/status/1003883505036636160[/tweet]

 

Oh well.

[Gmoney08]

LOL at anyone doubting Theo/Jed/Jason at this point. Even if he went 0 for this entire draft I would trust him.

 

His drafts with the Cubs and the Red Sox before obviously have garnered a ton of trust.

 

Ive seen the Bryant, Schwarber and Happ picks all criticized...

 

Pretty sure Mookie Betts pick was heavily criticized as well.

[toonsterwu]

LOL at anyone doubting Theo/Jed/Jason at this point. Even if he went 0 for this entire draft I would trust him.

 

His drafts with the Cubs and the Red Sox before obviously have garnered a ton of trust.

 

Ive seen the Bryant, Schwarber and Happ picks all criticized...

 

Pretty sure Mookie Betts pick was heavily criticized as well.

 

I don't recall Mookie Betts the pick being criticized. It was a 5th round pick. I do recall Mookie Betts the prospect getting critiqued somewhat, but I really don't recall much criticism over a 5th round pick.

[toonsterwu]

I don't particularly love or hate this draft. All scouting staffs have good and bad drafts.

 

I doubt we've gotten significant savings so far ... Hoerner's the only one that sounds like it could be a decent chunk, and Davis/Roederer might both cost more than slot to get signed. I wouldn't be surprised if Davis/Roederer costs ended up balancing out, or being more than, any Hoerner savings.

 

I like that they wanted to address their positional depth charts, and I like that they went for some upside in those two picks, but both seem fairly risky. Davis reminds me of a prep version of Daniel Johnson. Richan seems like a steady, high floor guy who should move up the ladder.

 

Going to be curious what happens in the next few rounds. At this juncture, it seems a bit unlikely that the Cubs will be in the mix for any huge name slipping, as signability makes that seem unlikely. Wouldn't be surprised if they started loading up on some college guys that could potentially move fast.

[Regular Show]

LOL at anyone doubting Theo/Jed/Jason at this point. Even if he went 0 for this entire draft I would trust him.

 

His drafts with the Cubs and the Red Sox before obviously have garnered a ton of trust.

 

Ive seen the Bryant, Schwarber and Happ picks all criticized...

 

Pretty sure Mookie Betts pick was heavily criticized as well.

 

Huh, this seems weird to me...

 

Who is this "Gmoney08" guy? I suspect this might be a fake account/burner account designed to boost the reputations of Theo/Jed/Jason.

 

Is this your account here Jed Hoyer?

 

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I don't want you to get in trouble. You probably need to delete this account and do this now:

 

 

Sorry Jed!

Edited June 5, 2018 by Regular Show

[Hrubes20]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Savermetrics/status/1003883505036636160[/tweet]

 

Oh well.

 

Sigh

[bukie]

Grant gets it.

 

https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/mlb/2018/6/5/17411486/mlb-draft-2018-grades

[Hrubes20]

LOL at anyone doubting Theo/Jed/Jason at this point. Even if he went 0 for this entire draft I would trust him.

 

His drafts with the Cubs and the Red Sox before obviously have garnered a ton of trust.

 

Ive seen the Bryant, Schwarber and Happ picks all criticized...

 

Pretty sure Mookie Betts pick was heavily criticized as well.

 

There was zero criticism of the Mookie Betts pick because 1. It was a 5th round pick, and 2. It came before draft spending limits.

[jersey cubs fan]

At this point in the draft, don’t expect a prep pick to be underslot, even if he’s picked much higher than normal he consensus rankings.

 

Quite surprising to see them go with a “raw” prospect this high. Goes against their MO.

 

Thus far this draft has Wilken trying to be the smartest guy in the room written all over it.

the difference being that these guys may actually be the smartest guys in the room, while wilken was only the smartest guy in the room when having one on one meetings with Hendry.

[CubinNY]

First comp that came to mind to me for Hoerner was Michael Young.

 

First guy I thought of was Bob Horner.

Too many youngsters here to appreciate the high quality of this post.