NL Central: Reds, Pirates and others

[Clem Fandango]

Whatever helps keep your hope alive, just know, it doesn't matter.

 

It's better that they have some fun now while it lasts.

[Brian707]

77-85, that's about where they should end up

[Banedon]

With his first regular-season start slated for March 31 in New York, Cardinals righthander Adam Wainwright will not face the Mets Tuesday in the exhibition game here. Manager Mike Matheny had said, “You’d hate to show them everything you’ve got,” so Wainwright will pitch in a minor-league game and Mike Mayers will start against the Mets.

 

[CyHawk_Cub]

That Mike Matheny is super smart. Yet another example of why the Cards should give him a lifelong contract to manage.

[imb]

Adam Wainright always sounds like that co-worker who thinks he's really smart and will explain to you why in the dumbest possible scenarios

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Adam Wainright always sounds like that co-worker who thinks he's really smart and will explain to you why in the dumbest possible scenarios

 

edit: nevermind it was already linked in this thread viewtopic.php?p=243166#p243166

[We Got The Whole 9]

Who the horsefeathers is Mike Mayers?

[imb]

Adam Wainright always sounds like that co-worker who thinks he's really smart and will explain to you why in the dumbest possible scenarios

 

edit: nevermind it was already linked in this thread viewtopic.php?p=243166#p243166

 

adam wainwright creates buzz around the water cooler

 

"boy im so sick and tired of hearing about how brilliant that wainwright is."

[Clem Fandango]

We don't want the Mets to know anything about this pitcher who has been in the league for a decade.

[weitliz]

We don't want the Mets to know anything about this pitcher who has been in the league for a decade.

 

It’s been said before but I’ll say it again...that sig makes each of your posts 1000x more entertaining. I laugh every time.

[Bluescale]

We don't want the Mets to know anything about this pitcher who has been in the league for a decade.

 

It's the long con, man. The last 12 season have all been to set up start March 31st, 2018.

[CubInOK]

I dunno guys, maybe Wainwright learned how to pitch with his feet and the Cardinals don't want the Mets to see it.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Bold strategy to have Wainwright incur his annual serious injury against minor leaguers this year.

[Cubswin11]

The Brewers message board is a good read today in the Cobb thread and Archer thread. They are hanging their hat on having the best 6-8 SP options in the league and “what if 2-3 of the Cubs pitchers get hurt, THEN WHAT? Let’s see how good they are then! Our 6-8 SP depth options are so much better than theirs!”

[Cubswin11]

Wade Miley left his start today with a groin injury and is getting an MRI. #Depth

[We Got The Whole 9]

The Brewers message board is a good read today in the Cobb thread and Archer thread. They are hanging their hat on having the best 6-8 SP options in the league and “what if 2-3 of the Cubs pitchers get hurt, THEN WHAT? Let’s see how good they are then! Our 6-8 SP depth options are so much better than theirs!”

I love that they can't even use asterisks to denote cuss words lol

[ScrubMD]

Wade Miley left his start today with a groin injury and is getting an MRI. #Depth

 

Luckily for the Brewers, they have a Vaunted 6-8 6-7.

[jersey cubs fan]

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jon heyman said the brewers offered cobb 1/12

[Regular Show]

jon heyman said the brewers offered cobb 1/12

 

So basically the same deal that Lance Lynn got from the Twins. The Brewers had to know that offer was never going to work.

[Cubswin11]

jon heyman said the brewers offered cobb 1/12

That seems almost insulting. Their offseason still confuses me to no end.

[Bluescale]

jon heyman said the brewers offered cobb 1/12

That seems almost insulting. Their offseason still confuses me to no end.

 

Brewers wanted to be able to say they were in on all the pitchers, but didn't want to get saddled with any big contracts.

[Cubswin11]

jon heyman said the brewers offered cobb 1/12

That seems almost insulting. Their offseason still confuses me to no end.

 

Brewers wanted to be able to say they were in on all the pitchers, but didn't want to get saddled with any big contracts.

So they gave a 32 year old CF a 5/80 contract, when their OF was their strength?

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Jordan Hicks made the Cardinals big league roster. He is ranked amongst their top 10 prospects in most lists but has never pitched above A ball.

[Lowblow]

There is a logic to the Brewers offseason if you're in Brewer's management rather than a Brewer fan. Despite 2017, the Brewers are not quite ready to compete for the big prize. Spending big money on a free agent frontline pitcher would certainly further raise already unreasonable expectations from their fan base. With their best pitcher already on the DL to start the season they are unlikely to duplicate what happened in the first half of 2017 no matter who they added.

 

Consequently, I think Stearns decided to play this one close to the vest and take few big chances. We all know how easily pitchers can break (or get suddenly ineffective). We need to remember that he doesn't have the same margin for error that the Cubs have. Were they to have a Heyward type situation, it would cripple them for years. So they have to be cautious.

 

I think their acquistion of Yelich kind of fell into their hands. It wouldn't surprise me to find out that they initially got into it to try to prevent Yelich from coming to us. But when he was available at a reasonable price they would have been foolish not to take him. Remember, they traded for Yelich the day before they announced Cain. My guess is that they had an agreement with Cain (who would have been their offseason Big Get) before Yelich became a target of opportunity. On the fly, I bet they convinced themselves that Santana would be a very attractive centerpiece for a trade for a cheaper TOR type of starter (Archer, et al) or they could dump Braun for something of real value. They may even have had some informal talks with other teams about it, but I think reality hit them in the mouth when they actually tried to do something about it.

 

If you look at how they dealt with the Free Agent starters, they were perfectly prepared to take one of them if they fell into their lap at a "bargain" price, but they weren't going to stick their necks out with the potentially high cost of being wrong. Their situation is somewhat analagous to where the Cubs were when they signed Lester. The difference is that had the Cubs been wrong, it would have been a major disappointment, while a similar mistake by the Brewers would have been an End of Days scenario.