It turns out the real Yu Darvish was the friends we made in this thread

[Cubswin11]

he'll be a cub very soon

You’ve always been our slump buster, Butters

[Aaron_Kennelly]

I'm calling it. Yu signs within the next 6 hours.

[Bull]

he'll be a cub very soon

You’ve always been our slump buster, Butters

[Sammy Sofa]

I'm calling it. Yu signs within the next 6 hours.

 

[CubinNY]

I'm calling it. Yu signs within the next 6 hours.

Don't write an article about it, please.

[Hunter]

I'm calling it. Yu signs within the next 6 hours.

Don't write an article about it, please.

 

Write an article about why we shouldn't sign Darvish.

[BigbadB]

Is today the day that nothing happens?

[Brian707]

[minnesotacubsfan]

 

 

I wish

[shnsajax]

Are we there yet?

[Perd]

When Yu say “It’s going to happen now.” When exactly do Yu mean? See I’ve already waited too long. And all my hope is gone.

[Hunter]

According to Morosi, the Dodgers are trying to keep 10 million in payroll free to make room for possible deadline deals this upcoming season. He also puts more to the rumor that the Cubs aren't willing to go more than 4 years. If he isn't going to get 5 or 6 years, Yu probably wants to go back to LA for a 4 year deal.

 

Hyun-Jin Ryu is listed at 7.8 million for 2018 last year of a 6/36. Logan Forsythe at 9 million after his option was exercised. Yasmani Grandal at 7.9 million of a 1/7.9 contract.

 

So Ryu is 6 million AAV and Grandal 7.9 AAV. Forsythe is 9 AAV.

 

According to:

https://www.truebluela.com/2018/1/13/16887090/dodgers-payroll-competitive-balance-tax-2018-arbitration

 

Dodger's current CBT payroll is 180 million. Leaving their desired 10 million cushion leaves them with 7 million to put towards Yu. They are going to need to dump 2 of the 3 of Ryu, Forsythe, and Grandal to get close to Yu money and leaving a 10 million cushion.

 

I don't see anyone taking Ryu at that price. Doesn't make sense why the Dodgers would pick up the option on Forsythe at 9 million then try to trade him. They might be able to dump Grandal and Kemp, but they would probably have to dip in to their 10 million cushion to still sign Yu.

[Sammy Sofa]

Jesus, they better not funk this up just because they won't give him a 5th year.

[UMFan83]

So if we offer him 5 years then he will probably come here, but if we stand firm at 4 years the Dodgers will probably find a way to make it happen?

 

My theory is that Theo was doing his due diligence but was never really serious about landing Yu until this market deep freeze started in December and he thought he might be able to get him for 4 years.

[champaignchris]

Dodger's current CBT payroll is 180 million. Leaving their desired 10 million cushion leaves them with 7 million to put towards Yu. They are going to need to dump 2 of the 3 of Ryu, Forsythe, and Grandal to get close to Yu money and leaving a 10 million cushion.

 

I don't see anyone taking Ryu at that price. Doesn't make sense why the Dodgers would pick up the option on Forsythe at 9 million then try to trade him. They might be able to dump Grandal and Kemp, but they would probably have to dip in to their 10 million cushion to still sign Yu.

 

Dumping two of those 3 to sign Darvish is pretty close to a wash as far as projected WAR is concerned. Would the Dodgers pay $10M more this year to pick up a half game in the standings at the best, not to mention the $60+M in additional liability over the next 3 or 4 seasons?

[David]

So if we offer him 5 years then he will probably come here, but if we stand firm at 4 years the Dodgers will probably find a way to make it happen?

My theory is that Theo was doing his due diligence but was never really serious about landing Yu until this market deep freeze started in December and he thought he might be able to get him for 4 years.

 

where'd you get that interpretation?

[Cubswin11]

According to Morosi, the Dodgers are trying to keep 10 million in payroll free to make room for possible deadline deals this upcoming season. He also puts more to the rumor that the Cubs aren't willing to go more than 4 years. If he isn't going to get 5 or 6 years, Yu probably wants to go back to LA for a 4 year deal.

 

Hyun-Jin Ryu is listed at 7.8 million for 2018 last year of a 6/36. Logan Forsythe at 9 million after his option was exercised. Yasmani Grandal at 7.9 million of a 1/7.9 contract.

 

So Ryu is 6 million AAV and Grandal 7.9 AAV. Forsythe is 9 AAV.

 

According to:

https://www.truebluela.com/2018/1/13/16887090/dodgers-payroll-competitive-balance-tax-2018-arbitration

 

Dodger's current CBT payroll is 180 million. Leaving their desired 10 million cushion leaves them with 7 million to put towards Yu. They are going to need to dump 2 of the 3 of Ryu, Forsythe, and Grandal to get close to Yu money and leaving a 10 million cushion.

 

I don't see anyone taking Ryu at that price. Doesn't make sense why the Dodgers would pick up the option on Forsythe at 9 million then try to trade him. They might be able to dump Grandal and Kemp, but they would probably have to dip in to their 10 million cushion to still sign Yu.

You also probably have to add $3-4 million on the low side for IP/GS incentives Maedea will hit this year and it could be as much as a $7-8 mil hit.

Edited January 30, 2018 by Cubswin11

[Sammy Sofa]

[minnesotacubsfan]

Dodger's current CBT payroll is 180 million. Leaving their desired 10 million cushion leaves them with 7 million to put towards Yu. They are going to need to dump 2 of the 3 of Ryu, Forsythe, and Grandal to get close to Yu money and leaving a 10 million cushion.

 

I don't see anyone taking Ryu at that price. Doesn't make sense why the Dodgers would pick up the option on Forsythe at 9 million then try to trade him. They might be able to dump Grandal and Kemp, but they would probably have to dip in to their 10 million cushion to still sign Yu.

 

Dumping two of those 3 to sign Darvish is pretty close to a wash as far as projected WAR is concerned. Would the Dodgers pay $10M more this year to pick up a half game in the standings at the best, not to mention the $60+M in additional liability over the next 3 or 4 seasons?

 

 

Maybe this is Theos gamble. It all but assures the Doyers are out of the Harper sweepstakes right

[UMFan83]

So if we offer him 5 years then he will probably come here, but if we stand firm at 4 years the Dodgers will probably find a way to make it happen?

My theory is that Theo was doing his due diligence but was never really serious about landing Yu until this market deep freeze started in December and he thought he might be able to get him for 4 years.

 

where'd you get that interpretation?

 

From Hunter's post:

 

According to Morosi, the Dodgers are trying to keep 10 million in payroll free to make room for possible deadline deals this upcoming season. He also puts more to the rumor that the Cubs aren't willing to go more than 4 years. If he isn't going to get 5 or 6 years, Yu probably wants to go back to LA for a 4 year deal.

 

I was assuming that was all stuff that Morosi reported.

[Aaron_Kennelly]

I'm calling it. Yu signs within the next 6 hours.

 

Hmm... I thought for sure I was going to be right this time.

[Hunter]

Dodger's current CBT payroll is 180 million. Leaving their desired 10 million cushion leaves them with 7 million to put towards Yu. They are going to need to dump 2 of the 3 of Ryu, Forsythe, and Grandal to get close to Yu money and leaving a 10 million cushion.

 

I don't see anyone taking Ryu at that price. Doesn't make sense why the Dodgers would pick up the option on Forsythe at 9 million then try to trade him. They might be able to dump Grandal and Kemp, but they would probably have to dip in to their 10 million cushion to still sign Yu.

 

Dumping two of those 3 to sign Darvish is pretty close to a wash as far as projected WAR is concerned. Would the Dodgers pay $10M more this year to pick up a half game in the standings at the best, not to mention the $60+M in additional liability over the next 3 or 4 seasons?

 

 

Maybe this is Theos gamble. It all but assures the Doyers are out of the Harper sweepstakes right

 

Grandal, Forsythe, and Ryu are all FA after 2018. Signing Yu for 20+ would take them out of the Harper sweepstakes unless they got really creative in payroll dumping for 2019.

[Hunter]

So if we offer him 5 years then he will probably come here, but if we stand firm at 4 years the Dodgers will probably find a way to make it happen?

My theory is that Theo was doing his due diligence but was never really serious about landing Yu until this market deep freeze started in December and he thought he might be able to get him for 4 years.

 

where'd you get that interpretation?

 

From Hunter's post:

 

According to Morosi, the Dodgers are trying to keep 10 million in payroll free to make room for possible deadline deals this upcoming season. He also puts more to the rumor that the Cubs aren't willing to go more than 4 years. If he isn't going to get 5 or 6 years, Yu probably wants to go back to LA for a 4 year deal.

 

I was assuming that was all stuff that Morosi reported.

 

 

Yes, Morosi is reporting that the Dodgers have interest in bringing Darvish back. How interested, is anyone's guess.

[David]

So if we offer him 5 years then he will probably come here, but if we stand firm at 4 years the Dodgers will probably find a way to make it happen?

My theory is that Theo was doing his due diligence but was never really serious about landing Yu until this market deep freeze started in December and he thought he might be able to get him for 4 years.

 

where'd you get that interpretation?

 

From Hunter's post:

 

According to Morosi, the Dodgers are trying to keep 10 million in payroll free to make room for possible deadline deals this upcoming season. He also puts more to the rumor that the Cubs aren't willing to go more than 4 years. If he isn't going to get 5 or 6 years, Yu probably wants to go back to LA for a 4 year deal.

 

I was assuming that was all stuff that Morosi reported.

 

But where'd you get that it was probable? That post goes on to talk about why it's not likely they can do it in any way that would make sense.

[UMFan83]

 

where'd you get that interpretation?

 

From Hunter's post:

 

According to Morosi, the Dodgers are trying to keep 10 million in payroll free to make room for possible deadline deals this upcoming season. He also puts more to the rumor that the Cubs aren't willing to go more than 4 years. If he isn't going to get 5 or 6 years, Yu probably wants to go back to LA for a 4 year deal.

 

I was assuming that was all stuff that Morosi reported.

 

But where'd you get that it was probable? That post goes on to talk about why it's not likely they can do it in any way that would make sense.

 

i dont know...i have attention issues and didnt really consider the rest of the post.