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That hand drawn Swastika could have been drawn on the back of that guy's neck while he was passed out drunk.

 

If I was a ball player, I'd avoid a town where people draw swastikas on each other for fun.

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That hand drawn Swastika could have been drawn on the back of that guy's neck while he was passed out drunk.

 

If I was a ball player, I'd avoid a town where people draw swastikas on each other for fun.

 

Until something drastically changes, they only way they'll get any decent FA is by overpaying like they did for Fowler.

 

And even then it'll be an uphill battle.

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My favorite:

 

 

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#softf uck

 

I love that [insert player] "doesn't want to be the guy" is the refrain of the spurned cards fan.

"Ooh, look at you, mister, 'I want to be a part of a competitive team.' A REAL ballplayer would jump at the opportunity to headline a roster full of trash."

 

maybe we don't "play in a desirable city." maybe we don't "win a lot of games." maybe our fans are "incredibly racist." and i guess we don't "have a chance in the division for the next ten years." maybe we do "condone drinking and driving and white-collar crime."

 

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This needs to always be bumped to the latest page.

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Go figure out a way to get both Yelich and Stanton, Theo.

 

 

 

I know we likely won’t get him and I don’t know if he makes a ton of sense but you do have to think we’d at least poke around and look in to what an offer would need to be for us to get him if we are only 1 of 4 teams he’d go to.

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Go figure out a way to get both Yelich and Stanton, Theo.

 

 

 

I know we likely won’t get him and I don’t know if he makes a ton of sense but you do have to think we’d at least poke around and look in to what an offer would need to be for us to get him if we are only 1 of 4 teams he’d go to.

In all seriousness, under which combination of players given up + Marlins eating salary would people be cool with acquiring Stanton?

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If teams are falling by the wayside, we definitely should poke around. The returns they were asking for, at least the ones I saw, didn't seem like much. If the Marlins have less leverage now ...

 

All that said, I suspect this is coming to one of three conclusions:

 

1) Dodgers on some sort of sweetheart deal for them

2) Yankees ... but this only happens if they take some salary in return or pay off a huge portion ...

3) Marlins pivot and deal away almost every other piece imaginable ... okay, not that extreme, but yeah, Yelich and others may have to go.

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Go figure out a way to get both Yelich and Stanton, Theo.

 

 

 

I know we likely won’t get him and I don’t know if he makes a ton of sense but you do have to think we’d at least poke around and look in to what an offer would need to be for us to get him if we are only 1 of 4 teams he’d go to.

In all seriousness, under which combination of players given up + Marlins eating salary would people be cool with acquiring Stanton?

If it’s just Stanton I’d do Happ or Almora and Alzolay and they throw in ~$50 mil kicked in during options years and I’d willing to take back Volquez, Tazawa or Ziegler this year too. For Stanton and Yelich I’d do Almora, Happ, Alzolay, and other minor leaguers and they throw in ~$50 mil in the option years and again take back a Volquez, Tazawa or Ziegler as well.

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Yeah, the package the Giants were offering was kinda weak. Could we get him with, say, Heyward, a few decent prospects, and a small mountain of cash?

Heyward is not going to waive his NTC to play for a rebuilding Marlins team

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Yeah, the package the Giants were offering was kinda weak. Could we get him with, say, Heyward, a few decent prospects, and a small mountain of cash?

Heyward is not going to waive his NTC to play for a rebuilding Marlins team

Ah, didn't know he had one.

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Go figure out a way to get both Yelich and Stanton, Theo.

 

 

 

I know we likely won’t get him and I don’t know if he makes a ton of sense but you do have to think we’d at least poke around and look in to what an offer would need to be for us to get him if we are only 1 of 4 teams he’d go to.

In all seriousness, under which combination of players given up + Marlins eating salary would people be cool with acquiring Stanton?

If it’s just Stanton I’d do Happ or Almora and Alzolay and they throw in ~$50 mil kicked in during options years and I’d willing to take back Volquez, Tazawa or Ziegler this year too. For Stanton and Yelich I’d do Almora, Happ, Alzolay, and other minor leaguers and they throw in ~$50 mil in the option years and again take back a Volquez, Tazawa or Ziegler as well.

 

I honestly don't know, as of this moment in time when Stanton seems to have made his power play and put the Marlins in a weaker spot (certainly possible that somehow the bids push it back up), if the Cubs have to go that far right now, from a prospect package. The rumored GIants package was what, Chris Shaw, Tyler Beede, and Joe Panik, plus around 240/250 million that they'd eat? I don't think the Cubs would eat that much of the deal, but assuming they did, that's a fringe-ish rotation arm prospect right now, a 1st base/corner OF guy whose hit tool isn't all that great, and Panik, a solid MLB 2nd baseman who probably over-achieved a bit his first two years, offensively.

 

Right now, I mean, assuming the Cubs would take on 240-250 million ... maybe I'd offer Almora. Maybe. I'm really not sold I'd pair it with Alzolay. Tbh ... as mediocre as our system is right now, considering the Giants offer and a perceived weakened position for the Marlins, I'd just throw out minor leaguers and only offer more if the Marlins are willing to eat more money. If we could get Stanton with our minor leaguers ... we'd certainly have a lot of flexibility the rest of the off-season.

 

Looking at the Marlins salaries, I think the Marlins best play may be to start shopping Ozuna/Yelich and let Stanton know they are serious about things. I wouldn't consummate any Yelich/Ozuna trade that quickly, but with the Gordon move, if they could dump Tazawa and/or Ziegler real quick, perhaps that sends a message to Stanton. Maybe shop Straily/Dietrich/Bour aggressively as well. Worst case is, they find out the markets for all their other assets sooner than later. Best case, they get Stanton to realize he's stuck in no-man's land if he doesn't agree to a move. Prado probably has to be tied to someone else for them to move that contract in the clear (I still wonder about something like Bour/Prado to say ... the Red Sox, filling the Red Sox need at first base and for power.

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