Random In-season Musings and Rumors

[squally1313]

The Rangers are 11-16, Hamels is going to be out until at least the ASB it sounds like. What would it take to rent Darvish for the year?

 

Chapman cost Torres. Even if teams were blowing up pen value, I'd be shocked if Darvish doesn't net a top 10ish type prospect, plus more.

 

We just won it all, let some other team get desperate for rentals.

 

Fangraphs article today about the Cubs and Yankees could get into a bidding war for his services. Cameron said as long as we include Happ, he can't see another team beating our offer (if we were interested).

 

I can see it both ways. No matter how you want to dissect the numbers, Darvish has been really good his entire MLB career (though susceptible to injuries). But, we won a World Series with 4 starters, all of which are still here, and Cleveland came within a game with 3 starters (2 of which were terrible). Assuming Lester, Jake, and Kyle are still pitching within expectations, even if Lackey takes a step back, I don't think it's worth the upgrade.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

 

So much for that idea.

it's probably just breast cancer

 

Careful, Stroman's dad will come for you.

 

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[NonProfitCow]

What do the Reds need Rasiel Iglesias for?

 

They have all these talented, healthy pitchers - Iglesias, Reed, Stephenson, Lorenzon, Garrett, Finnegan, and Cingrani - on their ML roster. Iglesias is the only one I'm extremely interested in as he is ready to go, but any of those other guys except maybe Lonrenzon and Cingrani would instantly be the most interesting long term P prospect in the org. I still really like Reed and Stephenson as guys who can be first division pitchers in some capacity.

 

They're going to be an interesting team to watch at the deadline. Some contender should probably take the Votto dive this year, Iglesias is going to be really valuable if they made him available, Cozart might be the top available SS through trade, and even Feldman always seems to end up moving somewhere else.

Iglesias is under contract through 2020 for cheap. There's no reason for them to unload him now unless someone offered an absurd package for him.

[cubsclapp]

Iglesias is under contract through 2020 for cheap. There's no reason for them to unload him now unless someone offered an absurd package for him.

 

I'm not saying the Reds should trade him tonight for nothing, but it seems pointless to have a high quality pitcher, a reliever at that, in his late 20's on a really bad team that isn't even trying to be good.

 

JMHT: The Mets should be all over him and Votto. He'd be awesome for the Cubs, I like him more than the more hyped Colome, but I'd rather shoot for an outright SP who maybe comes with a RP as the second piece.

 

The Reds' asking price for Iglesias to the Cubs would be absurd. They're not going to be in the business of making the Cubs better through 2020. And the Cubs don't want to be in the business of giving their divisional competition any top prospects/hope, especially with the gap currently as big as it is. There are just a lot of reasons that would prevent a deal like that from ever getting done.

 

If he weren't in the division, yeah, he'd be a really interesting target for sure.

[Post Count Padder]

So the Mets have suspended Matt Harvey. Thoughts as a buy-low/change of scenery guy?

[CaliforniaRaisin]

So the Mets have suspended Matt Harvey. Thoughts as a buy-low/change of scenery guy?

 

He's not going to be worth the inflated price tag.

[CubinNY]

So the Mets have suspended Matt Harvey. Thoughts as a buy-low/change of scenery guy?

 

He's not going to be worth the inflated price tag.

And whether he comes with our without the fake dick.

[jersey cubs fan]

So the Mets have suspended Matt Harvey. Thoughts as a buy-low/change of scenery guy?

 

He's not going to be worth the inflated price tag.

And whether he comes with our without the fake dick.

he can without it, it just takes longer

[davell]

 

Chances he opts out of 4/84 after this year? And if you're us, would you prefer he did or didn't?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Brisbee had an article today that made a pretty compelling case that the Giants aren't going to be trading guys like Cueto or Pence even if they're uncompetitive. It makes extra sense for Cueto because the opt out saps a big chunk of his potential value.

 

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[Post Count Padder]

Braves release Ryan Howard.

[We Got The Whole 9]

Braves release Ryan Howard.

I randomly started watching vids of his prime years the other day and he was one of the best I've ever seen at going to the opposite field. He had 1 year where he only pulled 9 HR out of 50. And he was hitting 450 oppo shots with total ease.

 

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[Gilby]

So how naive am I if I believe Hahn when he says he'd deal Quintana to the Cubs if it's the best offer?

[Tim]

So how naive am I if I believe Hahn when he says he'd deal Quintana to the Cubs if it's the best offer?

Not at all. I believe hahn would do it.

 

 

 

I don't believe Reinsdorf would approve it in a million years.

[davell]

So how naive am I if I believe Hahn when he says he'd deal Quintana to the Cubs if it's the best offer?

 

I think its lip service, since it came out last year they wouldn't deal with us. Hell, Jed even basically agreed that its going to cost extra to make a deal in a case like this.....

 

I guess its POSSIBLE now that we won the World Series already and a move like this couldn't be construed as the thing that gave their rivals that elusive first championship.

 

But, I'd still bet theres a premium attached and we wouldn't do it.

[imb]

 

He's not going to be worth the inflated price tag.

And whether he comes with our without the fake dick.

he can without it, it just takes longer

 

i mean we might as well just close this message board down

[Post Count Padder]

The Royals have DFA'd former top prospect Pete O'Brien and former first round pick (4th overall) Christian Colon.

[We Got The Whole 9]

Thoughts on what it would cost to acquire Maybin if the Angels fall out and shop him?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Moved this to Transactions since it fits better. It would've been fine as a separate thread too.

 

Thoughts on what it would cost to acquire Maybin if the Angels fall out and shop him?

 

I've liked Maybin for a long time, but I have a hard time seeing the need for a position player unless they trade significant assets from the MLB roster(probably at least 2 players) in order to get a SP.

[We Got The Whole 9]

Moved this to Transactions since it fits better. It would've been fine as a separate thread too.

 

Thoughts on what it would cost to acquire Maybin if the Angels fall out and shop him?

 

I've liked Maybin for a long time, but I have a hard time seeing the need for a position player unless they trade significant assets from the MLB roster(probably at least 2 players) in order to get a SP.

Well this is my crazy scenario and it would squeeze Al out some but also provide insurance for if Kyle doesn't come back a changed man, so to speak. I am excited about what Al has done so far but more time in Iowa wouldn't hurt and Maybin is again getting on base at a super sweet clip. He would be able to play all over the OF.

 

I know it's crazy but I would try to see about getting Fedde+ for Wade and Hector. The Nats need relievers bad or they will waste a prime season from their lineup and rotation. I would slot CJ in the closer spot and have Koji/Pedro/Dunce get the lion's share of the bridge work. I know that we can offer Wade a QO after the season but if we could hypothetically land a future rotation cornerstone for his services I think it's a worthwhile move. It would absolutely blow any deal we could have made for Soler, out of the water, IMO. Nats are gonna be bent over a barrel by somebody. Let it be us.

[davell]

We're not trading Davis. Hell, if you look at our pen after the season is over, we may need to resign him. At any rate, I can't see us sending off ANY solid major league contributor for prospects during the season.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Points for originality, but zero chance I'm trading a reliever that's producing well. 'Good enough' in the bullpen turns into a disaster in the blink of an eye. All it takes is CJ coming down with an arm injury and you're trying to win a title with Strop and Uehara as the back end of the pen, and that's a scary proposition.

 

If I'm doing something outside the box, I'm trying to trade for a failed starter that is a good candidate to boost the pen and hopefully help in future years. Like davell mentions, at the moment, next year's pen stalwarts are Edwards, Strop, and that's pretty much it. I had a hard time finding an awesome candidate for this when I looked a week or two ago, but the nature of acquisitions like Strop or Montgomery is that the problem is as much mechanical as it is hidden peripheral success that a new org can bring forward.

[We Got The Whole 9]

We're not trading Davis. Hell, if you look at our pen after the season is over, we may need to resign him. At any rate, I can't see us sending off ANY solid major league contributor for prospects during the season.

Ok then. I still feel we could use another consistent bat.

[davell]

We're not trading Davis. Hell, if you look at our pen after the season is over, we may need to resign him. At any rate, I can't see us sending off ANY solid major league contributor for prospects during the season.

Ok then. I still feel we could use another consistent bat.

 

I'm OK with adding a bat. I doubt we do, but its possible. I don't see us trading off Davis though, under any circumstance.

[We Got The Whole 9]

Points for originality, but zero chance I'm trading a reliever that's producing well. 'Good enough' in the bullpen turns into a disaster in the blink of an eye. All it takes is CJ coming down with an arm injury and you're trying to win a title with Strop and Uehara as the back end of the pen, and that's a scary proposition.

 

If I'm doing something outside the box, I'm trying to trade for a failed starter that is a good candidate to boost the pen and hopefully help in future years. Like davell mentions, at the moment, next year's pen stalwarts are Edwards, Strop, and that's pretty much it. I had a hard time finding an awesome candidate for this when I looked a week or two ago, but the nature of acquisitions like Strop or Montgomery is that the problem is as much mechanical as it is hidden peripheral success that a new org can bring forward.

True, I know that they loved Monty's curve and change. I'd love to get a look at their list of pitchers of that kind. We know they are all-aboard the curveball right now and I could see them targeting a fungible pitcher with a nasty one.