Random Offseason Musings and Rumors

[Cubswin11]

He's 31 and came out of nowhere last year, but I wonder if this could be someone we go after. I don't think he'd take a premium prospect, maybe something like Villanueva and Zaz would get it done.

 

[davell]

He's 31 and came out of nowhere last year, but I wonder if this could be someone we go after. I don't think he'd take a premium prospect, maybe something like Villanueva and Zaz would get it done.

 

 

If that's all it'd take for him, what's the point of them even trading him?

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Astros placed 1B Jon Singleton on outright waivers.

If he passes through waivers unclaimed, he'll remain in the Astros organization but will no longer be on the 40-man roster. The 25-year-old has been a colossal disappointment, slashing just .171/.290/.331 with 14 homers, 50 RBI and a 151/60 K/BB ratio in 420 plate appearances at the big league level.

 

One of the biggest busts of the last 10-20 years?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Singleton was never a Top 25 prospect, so no, not close.

[Tryptamine]

Just got done looking at the rule 5 guys available and there are some really nice prospects. The biggest stand out for me is Francisco Rios, but there's also guys like Angel Perdomo,Jordan Guerrero, Kevin Ziomek,Dylan Covey,Lewis Thorpe, etc

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http://m.mlb.com/news/article/208914172/prospects-added-to-40-man-or-exposed-to-rule-5/

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Another potential outfield option

 

Jake Kaplan of the Houston Chronicle reports that the Astros could non-tender Nori Aoki following the Josh Reddick signing.

MLBTradeRumors.com projects Aoki to make $6.8 million in arbitration, which is a healthy amount for a guy the Astros might now project as a fourth outfielder. Aoki, who will turn 35 in January, batted .283/.349/.388 this past season for the Mariners.

[KingCubsFan]

He's 31 and came out of nowhere last year, but I wonder if this could be someone we go after. I don't think he'd take a premium prospect, maybe something like Villanueva and Zaz would get it done.

 

He's absolutely going to take more than a few minor parts like those guys. It would take a package starting with Happ at least.

[Clem Fandango]

From Yahoo:

 

FIRE SALE?: We already knew the Chicago White Sox were open to entertaining offers on top tier players like Chris Sale and Jose Quintana. Now comes word that the White Sox are telling teams they’re willing to trade any player on their roster who is under team control for less than four years, That opens up the trade options considerably and could indicate a team ready to build from scratch.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

That basically means Sale, Robertson, Abreu, and all their guys entering the last year of their contracts(Frazier, Lawrie, Cabrera). Everyone else(Quintana, Jones, Rodon, Eaton) is either at 4 years of control when you count team options or is not worth trading for.

[imb]

how cheaply would robertson come?

[Tryptamine]

how cheaply would robertson come?

 

I wouldn't take him for free with his current contract. The Sox are going to have to eat some money if they want any kind of return.

[Cubswin11]

Olney just put up an article talking about how the Orioles should consider trading Britton.... Would something like Soler, Caratini, Happ and Jeimer be enough for Britton and Tillman or Bundy?

[toonsterwu]

Do any or all of these deals land Trout? Do the Cubs say no to any of these deals.

 

Trout for Baez, Schwarber, Almora and Soler?

 

Trout for Schwarber, Eloy, Almora and Soler?

 

Trout for Baez, Eloy, Cease, Almora and Soler?

 

From a hypothetical perspective ... I think they would hav eto think about the first, with Baez and Schwarber showing they can succeed at the big league level. I think they might lean no on the last two, feeling like they are taking on too much risk.

 

That said, I don't think the Angels deal Trout. There's too few organizations that can give them the quality bundle needed one-to-one, leaving alone the tag of "dealing the best player in the game entering his prime years" that would be slapped on them (And by most accounts, Arte Moreno is wary of that). A waste of Trout's prime ... but I think that's the way it goes for now.

 

Only slim chance I could perhaps see a deal coming together is if the Angels are able to spin a third team involved to really get a huge bundle. In short, I'm thinking that to get them to ponder it would take maybe 3 or 4 young MLB players, something few organizations will give up.

[toonsterwu]

Olney just put up an article talking about how the Orioles should consider trading Britton.... Would something like Soler, Caratini, Happ and Jeimer be enough for Britton and Tillman or Bundy?

 

Orioles won't move Bundy. He looked so intriguing last year that they are all excited again. He'll have an innings limit, but with Bundy/Gausman, they have the makings for a legitimate front of the rotation.

 

The idea of Britton intrigues me. That said, the idea of adding Brach or Givens would intrigue me as well. With Chance Sisco in the system, I'd be surprised if they'd have much interest in Caratini. Tbh, I think it's debatable if Soler/Caratini/Happ/Jeimer would land you Britton (more on a fit perspective ... hunch is they wouldn't be all that huge on Jeimer (as improved as he is, I'm not sure the Orioles are the type of team that would feel great about having him at 3rd) and Caratini. They'd probably have Happ in the OF (unless Schoop moved to 3rd, Machado to short, and that opened up a space at 2nd).

 

Some sort of Soler/Happ package to start would probably get us in the game. They'd probably want more than the value Boston gave up for Kimbrel last year, so it'd be about piecing something together.

 

Total side note, but said it around midseason, but I see some shades of Zach Britton in Justin Steele.

[chopsx9]

Do any or all of these deals land Trout? Do the Cubs say no to any of these deals.

 

Trout for Baez, Schwarber, Almora and Soler?

 

Trout for Schwarber, Eloy, Almora and Soler?

 

Trout for Baez, Eloy, Cease, Almora and Soler?

 

From a hypothetical perspective ... I think they would hav eto think about the first, with Baez and Schwarber showing they can succeed at the big league level. I think they might lean no on the last two, feeling like they are taking on too much risk.

 

That said, I don't think the Angels deal Trout. There's too few organizations that can give them the quality bundle needed one-to-one, leaving alone the tag of "dealing the best player in the game entering his prime years" that would be slapped on them (And by most accounts, Arte Moreno is wary of that). A waste of Trout's prime ... but I think that's the way it goes for now.

 

Only slim chance I could perhaps see a deal coming together is if the Angels are able to spin a third team involved to really get a huge bundle. In short, I'm thinking that to get them to ponder it would take maybe 3 or 4 young MLB players, something few organizations will give up.

 

Schwarber, Hendricks, Soler?

[Tryptamine]

Do any or all of these deals land Trout? Do the Cubs say no to any of these deals.

 

Trout for Baez, Schwarber, Almora and Soler?

 

Trout for Schwarber, Eloy, Almora and Soler?

 

Trout for Baez, Eloy, Cease, Almora and Soler?

 

From a hypothetical perspective ... I think they would hav eto think about the first, with Baez and Schwarber showing they can succeed at the big league level. I think they might lean no on the last two, feeling like they are taking on too much risk.

 

That said, I don't think the Angels deal Trout. There's too few organizations that can give them the quality bundle needed one-to-one, leaving alone the tag of "dealing the best player in the game entering his prime years" that would be slapped on them (And by most accounts, Arte Moreno is wary of that). A waste of Trout's prime ... but I think that's the way it goes for now.

 

Only slim chance I could perhaps see a deal coming together is if the Angels are able to spin a third team involved to really get a huge bundle. In short, I'm thinking that to get them to ponder it would take maybe 3 or 4 young MLB players, something few organizations will give up.

 

Schwarber, Hendricks, Soler?

 

The Cubs are already kind of in trouble looking forward to their 2018 rotation which is at the mom ent, Lester/Hendricks/Montgomery and who knows. You drop Hendricks from that line up and it has the potential to be a disaster.

[SRQCub]

CBS has a decent article on what the Tigers could do to completely tear down and rebuild. Though there are no matches with the Cubs, they make enough common sense suggestions that would improve the Dodgers (Verlander and Kinsler) and Astros (Cabrera) that it would be frightening to see them go all out in turning over their Major League roster.

[imb]

The Angels don't need to trade Trout, they need to draft better and supplement their roster with better smallish deals they cannot do at the moment because their drafts are all terrible and they have nothing to trade.

[Clem Fandango]

CBS has a decent article on what the Tigers could do to completely tear down and rebuild. Though there are no matches with the Cubs, they make enough common sense suggestions that would improve the Dodgers (Verlander and Kinsler) and Astros (Cabrera) that it would be frightening to see them go all out in turning over their Major League roster.

 

I doubt Mike Ilitch would let that happen while he's still alive, but they could definitely have one hell of a firesale if they changed directions.

[Clem Fandango]

The Brewers non-tendered Chris Carter and signed Eric Thames from the KBO.

[Tryptamine]

The Brewers non-tendered Chris Carter and signed Eric Thames from the KBO.

 

Based on how well Kang and Kim have translated to big league hitting I think this was a very worthwhile gamble.

[Clem Fandango]

The Brewers non-tendered Chris Carter and signed Eric Thames from the KBO.

 

Based on how well Kang and Kim have translated to big league hitting I think this was a very worthwhile gamble.

 

I agree, just surprising to see it come at the expense of the the National League home run leader, though obviously teams are a lot smarter and realize that one-dimensional sluggers aren't as valuable as they once were. Carter will latch on as a DH somewhere I'm sure. If the Blue Jays can't resign Encarnacion or find someone adequate to replace him, Carter might be a fit there. He's like a poor man's Encarnacion already.

[Cubswin11]

The Brewers non-tendered Chris Carter and signed Eric Thames from the KBO.

 

Based on how well Kang and Kim have translated to big league hitting I think this was a very worthwhile gamble.

 

I agree, just surprising to see it come at the expense of the the National League home run leader, though obviously teams are a lot smarter and realize that one-dimensional sluggers aren't as valuable as they once were. Carter will latch on as a DH somewhere I'm sure. If the Blue Jays can't resign Encarnacion or find someone adequate to replace him, Carter might be a fit there. He's like a poor man's Encarnacion already.

Yeah Carter to the Jays or Orioles makes a lot of sense as a cheaper replacement for EE/Bautista or Trumbo

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Remember when Locke was somehow an All Star?