College Football - Week 7 (Oct. 11)

[rawaction]

So any ideas on the polls now? Last weeks were so over the top wrong, maybe they will right themselves a little bit.

 

Still 1 thing I can't understand is all the love for Mich State. Oregon beat them pretty easily in the 2nd half and are now in the driver's seat in the Pac 12. Yet they fell from 2 to 12 after losing to an unbeaten Arizona? Not sure I understand the thinking about any of it but how about predictions now?

 

I'd go

 

1. Miss St

2. Ole Miss

3. Florida State

4. Notre Dame

5. Baylor

6. Auburn

7. Bama

8. Oregon

9. Michigan St.

10. Oklahoma

 

Alabama is too high.

 

Looks like I'm in the minority on this one but I think I'd rate Ole Miss ahead of Mississippi State.

 

Ole Miss is the more talented team, but State has the better wins or at least more good wins.

[snoodmonger]

Id sub out MSU and sub in Georgia. MSU has not impressed. Georgia just had a huge win in Columbia and just has the one 3pt road loss to South Carolina and a few solid wins.

So Georgia's loss is to a team with 3 losses and their best win is at a place where Indiana won... Got it.

 

All 3 of those losses were against SEC teams though.

 

Yes, so they essentially count as wins.

[Ryne Ween]

The SEC East only looks terrible because everyone is comparing them to the SEC West. What do you think would happen if a Big Ten team had to play the SEC East?

 

No, the SEC East is just really bad. I'm not sure any SEC fan would disagree with that.

 

From the looks of it, Georgia is the only team that can be mentioned in any sort of national discussion.

 

The SEC east is not bad. Especially if kentucky ends up being decent. Really the sec west is set apart and the other major conference divisions are pretty equal. The sec east has strong depth with 5-6 solid teams. It's just a down year but top to bottom is much better than the acc coastal and the big ten west and maybe a step behind te PAC divisions. Still pretty solid in the context of FBS.

 

The main reason the sec west is looked at as so remarkable is that the up an coming teams both pulled off two straight upset wins. This has kept the top of the division in te too 10 whereas in previous years alabama and lsu or auburn have destroyed he traditionally mediocre teams like ole miss and msst. Part of the formula that has created this narrative is alabama and LSU/auburn not being able to dominate the division as it has in the past.

 

Is this years sec west better than say 2011 when LSU and Bama were definitely the two best teams in the country and Arkansas was a top 5 team muc of the season. I believe that was the year they were 1,2 & 3 in the BCS very late in the season.

 

Now in the sec west you have a lot more parity than usual.

[snoodmonger]

1. Miss St

2. University of Mississippi

3. Florida State

4. Baylor

5. Notre Dame

6. Auburn

7. TCU

8. Oregon

9. Alabama

10. OK State

 

Oklahoma St. is not good. They struggled against a bad Texas Tech team, struggled against a worse ISU, and barely beat an even worse KU team. I know they played FSU close in the first game of the season, but their backup QB is now the full time QB, and they're about to start playing real teams now. I wouldn't be surprised if they closed the season 1-5, with their only win coming at home vs WVU.

[Derwood]

Unban Meph to sort this out

[OleMissCub]

@CFBMatrixMag: Mississippi State has accomplished the quickest rise from an unranked team to No. 1 in the 78-year history of the AP poll.

[Guest]

LOL at Michigan State still being ahead of Oregon.

[CubInOK]

Unban Meph to sort this out

Texas and Florida would be 1 and 2.

[dew1679666265]

The SEC east is not bad. Especially if kentucky ends up being decent. Really the sec west is set apart and the other major conference divisions are pretty equal. The sec east has strong depth with 5-6 solid teams. It's just a down year but top to bottom is much better than the acc coastal and the big ten west and maybe a step behind te PAC divisions. Still pretty solid in the context of FBS.

 

Not sure who those 5-6 sold teams are. Georgia is very good, Missouri/SC/Kentucky are decent but still have lots of questions, Tennessee and Florida are mediocre at best and Vanderbilt is terrible.

 

I think Missouri and SC are better than they've shown, but they've not been particularly good this year. Kentucky appears to be clearly on the way up, but they've been doing it against teams with a lot of questions (Florida and South Carolina). You could argue as many as 4 solid teams in the east, but that's probably a stretch at this point.

[CubInOK]

Id sub out MSU and sub in Georgia. MSU has not impressed. Georgia just had a huge win in Columbia and just has the one 3pt road loss to South Carolina and a few solid wins.

So Georgia's loss is to a team with 3 losses and their best win is at a place where Indiana won... Got it.

 

All 3 of those losses were against SEC teams though.

Meanwhile, Oklahoma and TCU sport single losses on the road to teams with a combined 1 loss, but the AP thinks Georgia is better than both.

[UK1679666180]

The SEC east is not bad. Especially if kentucky ends up being decent. Really the sec west is set apart and the other major conference divisions are pretty equal. The sec east has strong depth with 5-6 solid teams. It's just a down year but top to bottom is much better than the acc coastal and the big ten west and maybe a step behind te PAC divisions. Still pretty solid in the context of FBS.

 

Not sure who those 5-6 sold teams are. Georgia is very good, Missouri/SC/Kentucky are decent but still have lots of questions, Tennessee and Florida are mediocre at best and Vanderbilt is terrible.

 

I think Missouri and SC are better than they've shown, but they've not been particularly good this year. Kentucky appears to be clearly on the way up, but they've been doing it against teams with a lot of questions (Florida and South Carolina). You could argue as many as 4 solid teams in the east, but that's probably a stretch at this point.

 

I think Uk doing so well is an indication of how down the conference is. There's a definite 8+ win and they have 3 losses already, UK is the only team exceeding expectations while everyone else is equaling of falling short.

 

As thrilled as I am with UK, if they played Arkansas' schedule, they'd lose every SEC W game.

[Guest]

So any ideas on the polls now? Last weeks were so over the top wrong, maybe they will right themselves a little bit.

 

Still 1 thing I can't understand is all the love for Mich State. Oregon beat them pretty easily in the 2nd half and are now in the driver's seat in the Pac 12. Yet they fell from 2 to 12 after losing to an unbeaten Arizona? Not sure I understand the thinking about any of it but how about predictions now?

 

I'd go

 

1. Miss St

2. Ole Miss

3. Florida State

4. Notre Dame

5. Baylor

6. Auburn

7. Bama

8. Oregon

9. Michigan St.

10. Oklahoma

 

Alabama is too high.

 

Looks like I'm in the minority on this one but I think I'd rate Ole Miss ahead of Mississippi State.

 

I went Miss St. first because of the win over LSU. Even though LSU isn't as good as usual this year, winning there is still a better third win than what Ole Miss has. And Bama the nod over Oregon because their loss is better. But I wouldn't be opposed to swapping those two.

 

Though I guess from my own logic from last week I should have TCU over Oklahoma though. Oh well.

 

I just don't think Alabama is that good, to be honest.

[SouthSideRyan]

The SEC East only looks terrible because everyone is comparing them to the SEC West. What do you think would happen if a Big Ten team had to play the SEC East?

 

No, the SEC East is just really bad. I'm not sure any SEC fan would disagree with that.

 

From the looks of it, Georgia is the only team that can be mentioned in any sort of national discussion.

 

The SEC east is not bad. Especially if kentucky ends up being decent. Really the sec west is set apart and the other major conference divisions are pretty equal. The sec east has strong depth with 5-6 solid teams. It's just a down year but top to bottom is much better than the acc coastal and the big ten west and maybe a step behind te PAC divisions. Still pretty solid in the context of FBS.

 

The main reason the sec west is looked at as so remarkable is that the up an coming teams both pulled off two straight upset wins. This has kept the top of the division in te too 10 whereas in previous years alabama and lsu or auburn have destroyed he traditionally mediocre teams like ole miss and msst. Part of the formula that has created this narrative is alabama and LSU/auburn not being able to dominate the division as it has in the past.

 

Is this years sec west better than say 2011 when LSU and Bama were definitely the two best teams in the country and Arkansas was a top 5 team muc of the season. I believe that was the year they were 1,2 & 3 in the BCS very late in the season.

 

Now in the sec west you have a lot more parity than usual.

 

I guess this is why my parody of an SEC homer gets taken as serious posts.

[SouthSideRyan]

So any ideas on the polls now? Last weeks were so over the top wrong, maybe they will right themselves a little bit.

 

Still 1 thing I can't understand is all the love for Mich State. Oregon beat them pretty easily in the 2nd half and are now in the driver's seat in the Pac 12. Yet they fell from 2 to 12 after losing to an unbeaten Arizona? Not sure I understand the thinking about any of it but how about predictions now?

 

I'd go

 

1. Miss St

2. Ole Miss

3. Florida State

4. Notre Dame

5. Baylor

6. Auburn

7. Bama

8. Oregon

9. Michigan St.

10. Oklahoma

 

Alabama is too high.

 

Looks like I'm in the minority on this one but I think I'd rate Ole Miss ahead of Mississippi State.

 

I went Miss St. first because of the win over LSU. Even though LSU isn't as good as usual this year, winning there is still a better third win than what Ole Miss has. And Bama the nod over Oregon because their loss is better. But I wouldn't be opposed to swapping those two.

 

Though I guess from my own logic from last week I should have TCU over Oklahoma though. Oh well.

 

I just don't think Alabama is that good, to be honest.

 

Then why do you favor University of Mississippi over Miss St?

[dew1679666265]

I think Uk doing so well is an indication of how down the conference is. There's a definite 8+ win and they have 3 losses already, UK is the only team exceeding expectations while everyone else is equaling of falling short.

 

As thrilled as I am with UK, if they played Arkansas' schedule, they'd lose every SEC W game.

 

Yeah, the east being as down as it is makes evaluating Kentucky tough. They look a lot better than they have in the past couple of years, but is that a result of weaker competition or better play by the Wildcats? I think it's some combination of both, but exactly how much of each is tough to tell.

 

One thing I do know, Tennessee is really unlikely to beat UK unless we improve considerably before then. I've never said that before, even the year we lost to UK.

[Guest]

I'd go

 

1. Miss St

2. Ole Miss

3. Florida State

4. Notre Dame

5. Baylor

6. Auburn

7. Bama

8. Oregon

9. Michigan St.

10. Oklahoma

 

Alabama is too high.

 

Looks like I'm in the minority on this one but I think I'd rate Ole Miss ahead of Mississippi State.

 

I went Miss St. first because of the win over LSU. Even though LSU isn't as good as usual this year, winning there is still a better third win than what Ole Miss has. And Bama the nod over Oregon because their loss is better. But I wouldn't be opposed to swapping those two.

 

Though I guess from my own logic from last week I should have TCU over Oklahoma though. Oh well.

 

I just don't think Alabama is that good, to be honest.

 

Then why do you favor University of Mississippi over Miss St?

 

Just the eye test. Ole Miss looks more talented - I readily admit Mississippi State has wins against better teams thus far.

[UMFan83]

So with Florida State/ND and Miss/Miss State on the schedule, there is guaranteed to be a 1 loss team in the playoff.

 

That said if the Mississippi teams go into their game undefeated, I'm assuming they will both be in regardless, unless the winner loses in the SEC title game

[Andy]

So with Florida State/ND and Miss/Miss State on the schedule, there is guaranteed to be a 1 loss team in the playoff.

 

That said if the Mississippi teams go into their game undefeated, I'm assuming they will both be in regardless, unless the winner loses in the SEC title game

If both Mississippi teams were undefeated, they're both in regardless of what happens from there.

 

Also, I would like OMC to somehow live stream the entire day in Oxford if that happens.

[OleMissCub]

So with Florida State/ND and Miss/Miss State on the schedule, there is guaranteed to be a 1 loss team in the playoff.

 

That said if the Mississippi teams go into their game undefeated, I'm assuming they will both be in regardless, unless the winner loses in the SEC title game

If both Mississippi teams were undefeated, they're both in regardless of what happens from there.

 

Also, I would like OMC to somehow live stream the entire day in Oxford if that happens.

 

I still expect both schools to frak it up and each have two losses by the Egg Bowl, but assuming they both keep winning, I've no doubt college Gameday would be back there. I'm just super glad it's a home game for the Rebs.

[Guest]

So with Florida State/ND and Miss/Miss State on the schedule, there is guaranteed to be a 1 loss team in the playoff.

 

That said if the Mississippi teams go into their game undefeated, I'm assuming they will both be in regardless, unless the winner loses in the SEC title game

If both Mississippi teams were undefeated, they're both in regardless of what happens from there.

 

Also, I would like OMC to somehow live stream the entire day in Oxford if that happens.

 

a variation of this i'm sure

 

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[Guest]

So with Florida State/ND and Miss/Miss State on the schedule, there is guaranteed to be a 1 loss team in the playoff.

 

That said if the Mississippi teams go into their game undefeated, I'm assuming they will both be in regardless, unless the winner loses in the SEC title game

If both Mississippi teams were undefeated, they're both in regardless of what happens from there.

 

Also, I would like OMC to somehow live stream the entire day in Oxford if that happens.

 

The only way it doesn't happen is if Georgia wins out including the SEC title game. Then you'd have three one-loss SEC schools and unless everyone else has two losses, I can't see them going with three SEC schools. Not with Notre Dame and FSU potentially only having one loss combined.

[SouthSideRyan]

So with Florida State/ND and Miss/Miss State on the schedule, there is guaranteed to be a 1 loss team in the playoff.

 

That said if the Mississippi teams go into their game undefeated, I'm assuming they will both be in regardless, unless the winner loses in the SEC title game

If both Mississippi teams were undefeated, they're both in regardless of what happens from there.

 

Also, I would like OMC to somehow live stream the entire day in Oxford if that happens.

 

The only way it doesn't happen is if Georgia wins out including the SEC title game. Then you'd have three one-loss SEC schools and unless everyone else has two losses, I can't see them going with three SEC schools. Not with Notre Dame and FSU potentially only having one loss combined.

 

I think I'd leave out Georgia in that scenario.

[UK1679666180]

I think Uk doing so well is an indication of how down the conference is. There's a definite 8+ win and they have 3 losses already, UK is the only team exceeding expectations while everyone else is equaling of falling short.

 

As thrilled as I am with UK, if they played Arkansas' schedule, they'd lose every SEC W game.

 

Yeah, the east being as down as it is makes evaluating Kentucky tough. They look a lot better than they have in the past couple of years, but is that a result of weaker competition or better play by the Wildcats? I think it's some combination of both, but exactly how much of each is tough to tell.

 

One thing I do know, Tennessee is really unlikely to beat UK unless we improve considerably before then. I've never said that before, even the year we lost to UK.

 

It's a combo, I think UK is probably a 5 win team based on their current talent, they'll probably end up with 7 wins and should've been 8 wins. They've stayed healthy so far this year too. The good news is that despite the age of Dupree and Smith at DE, they're pretty young throughout the team.

 

I definitely think UK has a decent shot winning 2 games against UT/UL/LSU/MIZZOU.

[Guest]

So with Florida State/ND and Miss/Miss State on the schedule, there is guaranteed to be a 1 loss team in the playoff.

 

That said if the Mississippi teams go into their game undefeated, I'm assuming they will both be in regardless, unless the winner loses in the SEC title game

If both Mississippi teams were undefeated, they're both in regardless of what happens from there.

 

Also, I would like OMC to somehow live stream the entire day in Oxford if that happens.

 

The only way it doesn't happen is if Georgia wins out including the SEC title game. Then you'd have three one-loss SEC schools and unless everyone else has two losses, I can't see them going with three SEC schools. Not with Notre Dame and FSU potentially only having one loss combined.

 

I think I'd leave out Georgia in that scenario.

 

It would depend on how exactly the West shook out, but 1-loss Georgia has a pretty good resume. Wins v. Auburn and whichever Mississippi school won the west, non-con wins v. Clemson and Georgia Tech. If Auburn won the Iron Bowl and didn't slip up elsewhere I think you have to take Georgia. The west is deep, but not so deep that a 1-loss SEC champ from the East that beat 2 of the 3 best schools in the West doesn't get a playoff spot.

[SouthSideRyan]

So with Florida State/ND and Miss/Miss State on the schedule, there is guaranteed to be a 1 loss team in the playoff.

 

That said if the Mississippi teams go into their game undefeated, I'm assuming they will both be in regardless, unless the winner loses in the SEC title game

If both Mississippi teams were undefeated, they're both in regardless of what happens from there.

 

Also, I would like OMC to somehow live stream the entire day in Oxford if that happens.

 

The only way it doesn't happen is if Georgia wins out including the SEC title game. Then you'd have three one-loss SEC schools and unless everyone else has two losses, I can't see them going with three SEC schools. Not with Notre Dame and FSU potentially only having one loss combined.

 

I think I'd leave out Georgia in that scenario.

 

It would depend on how exactly the West shook out, but 1-loss Georgia has a pretty good resume. Wins v. Auburn and whichever Mississippi school won the west, non-con wins v. Clemson and Georgia Tech. If Auburn won the Iron Bowl and didn't slip up elsewhere I think you have to take Georgia. The west is deep, but not so deep that a 1-loss SEC champ from the East that beat 2 of the 3 best schools in the West doesn't get a playoff spot.

 

Well all 3 schools would have beaten Auburn in this scenario. They're irrelevant to the equation. I'd take the top 6 in the West over every non-Georgia school, so the Mississippi schools would have win over 2-6 and 3-6 respectively. I don't think Clemson is enough to make up for that.