The Jon Lester Signs w/ Cubs - 6 yrs/$155 Million

[Guest]

some quick rosterbation

 

c - castillo

1b - rizzo

2b - baez

ss - castro

3b - valbuena/russell

lf - coghlan/bryant

cf - alcantara

rf - soler

 

rotation - lester, arrieta, shields, hendricks, wood/straily/doub/wada?/jaxon?

 

bullpen - rondon, ramirez, strop, grimm, vizcaino, loogy, long guy

 

bench - uhh whatever? coghlan and/or valbuena once bryant and later russell come up

 

 

division favorites?

 

obv i wouldn't mind a position player (maybe span or montero like TT talked about) from outside somewhere, but trades are tougher to predict so i just choose not to mess with it and i don't want to spend a whole lot of our funds on martin.

 

Forgot to lump Turner in the 5th spot battle

 

you're right.

 

man if bosio can do ANYTHING with him that is a stupid rotation

[Guest]

I think a 2nd round pick is so insignificant that it should basically be ignored when evaluating whether to sign a FA or not.

 

i'm of the same opinion

[Guest]

I think a 2nd round pick is so insignificant that it should basically be ignored when evaluating whether to sign a FA or not.

 

At likely FA prices the #46 pick is probably worth upwards of 5 million. Not enough to be a primary consideration, but more than 'basically be ignored' or 'who gives an expletive'.

[davell]

I think a 2nd round pick is so insignificant that it should basically be ignored when evaluating whether to sign a FA or not.

 

Agree. That said, if we punt the 2nd, I'd just as soon punt the 3rd too.

[Guest]

I think a 2nd round pick is so insignificant that it should basically be ignored when evaluating whether to sign a FA or not.

 

At likely FA prices the #46 pick is probably worth upwards of 5 million. Not enough to be a primary consideration, but more than 'basically be ignored' or 'who gives an expletive'.

 

$5M over the course of a 4-5 year deal (hell, even 2-3) is definitely in that latter category imo

[Guest]

I think a 2nd round pick is so insignificant that it should basically be ignored when evaluating whether to sign a FA or not.

 

At likely FA prices the #46 pick is probably worth upwards of 5 million. Not enough to be a primary consideration, but more than 'basically be ignored' or 'who gives an expletive'.

 

$5M over the course of a 4-5 year deal (hell, even 2-3) is definitely in that latter category imo

 

Again, everyone has a threshold where they're no longer comfortable spending that much. If you'd easily give Shields 4/80 then an extra 5 million of value is less of a problem than someone who'd rather be in the 60-65 million range for him.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I think a 2nd round pick is so insignificant that it should basically be ignored when evaluating whether to sign a FA or not.

 

At likely FA prices the #46 pick is probably worth upwards of 5 million. Not enough to be a primary consideration, but more than 'basically be ignored' or 'who gives an expletive'.

 

Ewww, this is going to be one of those stupid Fangraphs things where 20 crappy players are worth the same as one Mike Trout, isn't it?

[Tyrant]

I think a 2nd round pick is so insignificant that it should basically be ignored when evaluating whether to sign a FA or not.

 

At likely FA prices the #46 pick is probably worth upwards of 5 million. Not enough to be a primary consideration, but more than 'basically be ignored' or 'who gives an expletive'.

 

Ewww, this is going to be one of those stupid Fangraphs things where 20 crappy players are worth the same as one Mike Trout, isn't it?

 

Have to agree with Kyle here. I can already see the convoluted justifications and tables and graphs and WAR calculations and everything.

[Fro]

You're probably not going to have a protected pick again after this year, so that should factor into the equation.

 

You're either going to have to pay in $$$ or prospects to upgrade the rotation at some point.

[Guest]

Can we still call him Ice?

[Guest]

I'm at the point where I hope we just Vikings away a bunch of non-first-round picks just to annoy people who keep obsessing over them.

 

Your desire to see fellow fans upset at the expense of the team you supposedly root for is stange.

[Guest]

I'm at the point where I hope we just Vikings away a bunch of non-first-round picks just to annoy people who keep obsessing over them.

 

Your desire to see fellow fans upset at the expense of the team you supposedly root for is stange.

 

It's not at the expense of the team if they're signing good players

 

It's at the expense of the fan caring about these stupid picks (in relation to adding actual good players to the major league team)

[Guest]

although i guess using vikings as the verb there implies it is at the Cubs' expense

 

i don't imagine that was his intent, especially since the sports aren't remotely comparable in this area

[Guest]

I'm at the point where I hope we just Vikings away a bunch of non-first-round picks just to annoy people who keep obsessing over them.

 

Your desire to see fellow fans upset at the expense of the team you supposedly root for is stange.

 

It's not at the expense of the team if they're signing good players

 

It's at the expense of the fan caring about these stupid picks (in relation to adding actual good players to the major league team)

 

They're not losing the picks because of free agent signings if they're "Vikings" those picks.

[Guest]

I'm at the point where I hope we just Vikings away a bunch of non-first-round picks just to annoy people who keep obsessing over them.

 

Your desire to see fellow fans upset at the expense of the team you supposedly root for is stange.

 

It's not at the expense of the team if they're signing good players

 

It's at the expense of the fan caring about these stupid picks (in relation to adding actual good players to the major league team)

 

They're not losing the picks because of free agent signings if they're "Vikings" those picks.

 

It's baseball, they can't Vikings them

[Guest]

I'm at the point where I hope we just Vikings away a bunch of non-first-round picks just to annoy people who keep obsessing over them.

 

Your desire to see fellow fans upset at the expense of the team you supposedly root for is stange.

 

It's not at the expense of the team if they're signing good players

 

It's at the expense of the fan caring about these stupid picks (in relation to adding actual good players to the major league team)

 

They're not losing the picks because of free agent signings if they're "Vikings" those picks.

 

It's baseball, they can't Vikings them

 

I have to think Kyle knows that and was making a point.

[Guest]

To me his point was treat them like a relative pittance like they are

[sneakypower]

I think a 2nd round pick is so insignificant that it should basically be ignored when evaluating whether to sign a FA or not.

 

At likely FA prices the #46 pick is probably worth upwards of 5 million. Not enough to be a primary consideration, but more than 'basically be ignored' or 'who gives an expletive'.

you'd probably expect around 2 career WAR from that pick

http://www.hardballtimes.com/how-much-is-a-draft-pick-worth-in-2014/

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I'm at the point where I hope we just Vikings away a bunch of non-first-round picks just to annoy people who keep obsessing over them.

 

Your desire to see fellow fans upset at the expense of the team you supposedly root for is stange.

 

I'm easily annoyed and petty.

[Guest]

my prediction

 

lester - cubs

maeda - red sox

scherzer - yankees

shields - idk

[SouthSideRyan]

Lester - Yankees

Maeda - Red Sox

Scherzer - Tigers

Shields - Dodgers

Sadness - Cubs

[Cubswin11]

Lester- Cubs

Maeda- Red Sox

Scherzer- Yankees

Shields- 1 of the LA teams

[Tryptamine]

Lester - Yankees

Maeda - Red Sox

Scherzer - Tigers

Shields - Dodgers

Sadness - Cubs

 

I don't see anyway possible the Tigers spend over 100M on just their starting 5.

 

Verlander=28M

Sanchez=16M

Scherzer>=25M

Price=20M

Porcello=11M

 

Lester=Cubs

Scherzer=Yankees

Shields=Boston

Maeda=LAD

[imb]

id give shields $30m a year if he'd sign just a four year deal. Get two years out of him and suck it up and deal with the decline, it's perfect.

[Guest]

No SP older than 31 has gotten a deal longer than 4 years in this CBA, Shields will pitch all next year at age 33. Shields is a bit of a unique case and may get 5, but I'd guess he's still closer to Anibal's contract than anything way out there. Teams are really hesitant to give out long deals to old pitchers.