2014 Cubs Pick Discussion

[wvcbxl]

I sure would like to fast forward 3-4 years to see how this class turns out.

 

I'd just like to fast forward to 07/18 at 5:00 pm ET

[davell]

Jason McLeod discusses the Cubs draft: http://thegamechicago.com/2014/06/08/jason-mcleod-discusses-cubs-draft-picks/

 

Pretty informative piece. Soler's a few weeks away. Schwarber will be catching some and playing OF.......

 

Did I hear that right? 15 area scouts and 8 cross checkers? Seems awfully low on the number of area scouts, doesn't it?

 

Its similar with the area guys but above avg. with the national guys. 8 is pretty high.

 

Just curious, but I'd assume Florida and California have multiple scouts covering those states? And they're considered the best jobs in the scouting community? More talent, less travel basically. With some of the Midwest and Northeast jobs being the worst. Less talent, much more talent..... Correct or way off?

[craig]

...c) The Zagunis pick still bothers me a bit (I keep thinking that there's similarities to Micah Gibbs). I get it, catchers are a premium, and the draft rules means that you have to have multiple strategies in place depending on what players are available, and drafting Zagunis lead to the flexibility to go after some arms later…..

 

Nobody seems to like the Zagunis pick much. We'll see. Pure scouting pick, as always.

 

I very much like the strategy of going for a catcher over a pitcher, catchers are extremely rare commodities. I don't expect Schwarber is really going to stick at catcher. So need-wise a catcher made a ton of sense, and Zagunis seems to have the scouting to be good.

 

Could be a case of "buy low". He had a down season power-wise, when you'd expect a junior should be getting more power-productive, not less. I was told that he had an oblique injury this spring; perhaps the Cubs felt that's what cost his power?

 

Even so, though, even before this spring he'd been kind of a Vogelbach-like mostly-singles guy. Over 2/3 of his hits have been singles in each of his three seasons. Kind of curious, because the scouting reports all describe him as strong/solid. I suppose you get guys like Almora/Vogelbach/Soler and if they are just line-drive/groundball/oriented hitters, it is what it is and you're just not going to get a lot of balls lifted enough for HR's, perhaps not even a lot of doubles.

 

College Zagunis was a strong contact-hitter. Over 3 seasons, his K-rate is exactly 10.0%. Somewhat different from Micah Gibbs, who was older (turned 22 draft summer), didn't scout as being that athletic, and had a 52K/238AB season on his record. Zagunis and Gibbs are also kind of flips because Zagunis is coming off a very down season, whereas Gibbs draft spring was way better than he'd been before as a hitter. Of course you never know when a guy is "on the rise", but kind of a buy low/buy high contrasts.

 

Perhaps Zagunis will compare to a Darwin Barney style guy, only with less defense, a lot more walks, and more power potential.

[UK1679666180]

Jason McLeod discusses the Cubs draft: http://thegamechicago.com/2014/06/08/jason-mcleod-discusses-cubs-draft-picks/

 

Pretty informative piece. Soler's a few weeks away. Schwarber will be catching some and playing OF.......

 

Did I hear that right? 15 area scouts and 8 cross checkers? Seems awfully low on the number of area scouts, doesn't it?

 

Its similar with the area guys but above avg. with the national guys. 8 is pretty high.

 

Just curious, but I'd assume Florida and California have multiple scouts covering those states? And they're considered the best jobs in the scouting community? More talent, less travel basically. With some of the Midwest and Northeast jobs being the worst. Less talent, much more talent..... Correct or way off?

 

Correct. I forget which organization it is but they have just one scout assigned to San Diego. St. Louis doesn't use regions with colleges, they use conferences. Just hope if you have the Big Ten you don't have to go from Nebraska to New Jersey with a deadline.

[ScrubMD]

Why does that upset you?

 

Raisin is posting other teams picks news in the Cubs picks news, so I'm being marginally humorous by pretending they were our picks and now they're signing with other teams.

 

I see it now.

[davell]

Thanks UK. By the way, a poster on PSD mentioned he spoke with Skoug's mom and she mentioned the Cubs called prior to round 3, but they wanted more money than what was offered.

[UK1679666180]

Thanks UK. By the way, a poster on PSD mentioned he spoke with Skoug's mom and she mentioned the Cubs called prior to round 3, but they wanted more money than what was offered.

 

I knew they were in on him and was hoping they'd meet their demands.

[davell]

This stuff fascinates me UK. In a typical year, how many players does an area scout see? From there, how many does he wind up seeing multiple times? Does the area scout find out monetary demands or does he turn that over to a cross checker?

 

On a different topic, do teams employ a completely different set of scouts to focus on the minors than on the draft? Same with the majors?

[Guest]

Aaron Nola and Luke Weaver signed.

[Irrelevant Dude]

Can we get a separate thread to summarize Cubs picks and signings?

[Guest]

Can we get a separate thread to summarize Cubs picks and signings?

 

I'm updating the fourth post in this thread with every signing and we can talk about it in this thread. If this is about my posts about other teams signings, I can move that talk elsewhere but I feel like this is the best thread for Cub signings.

[davell]

Reid-Foley signed at slot. 1.128 mill. Can't wait to see what kind of numbers come in on our guys, to see the various combos you could make to equal our slot amount.

[Irrelevant Dude]

Can we get a separate thread to summarize Cubs picks and signings?

 

I'm updating the fourth post in this thread with every signing and we can talk about it in this thread. If this is about my posts about other teams signings, I can move that talk elsewhere but I feel like this is the best thread for Cub signings.

The fourth post is exactly what I was looking for, but I missed it as it was kind of buried on the first page. That will work though. Thanks.

[Sammys Boombox]

Can we get a separate thread to summarize Cubs picks and signings?

 

I'm updating the fourth post in this thread with every signing and we can talk about it in this thread. If this is about my posts about other teams signings, I can move that talk elsewhere but I feel like this is the best thread for Cub signings.

 

Thanks for doing that. Very helpful.

[davell]

Cantu is waiting. Yags posted an article, he's excited, needs to figure out what he wants to do. But Cubs have told him offer will come later, as they have to figure out how much money they'll be able to allot for him. Personally, it's good news to know he's not just dead-set on school.

[Guest]

@ChrisCotillo: Re: reports that #Cubs draftee Carson Sands has agreed to his deal, I was told today that he has not yet agreed to anything.

[Outshined_One]

Can we get a separate thread to summarize Cubs picks and signings?

 

I'm updating the fourth post in this thread with every signing and we can talk about it in this thread. If this is about my posts about other teams signings, I can move that talk elsewhere but I feel like this is the best thread for Cub signings.

The fourth post is exactly what I was looking for, but I missed it as it was kind of buried on the first page. That will work though. Thanks.

 

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:-"

[davell]

Hoyer said on Kap and Haugh that the Schwarber announcement should come today.

[UK1679666180]

This stuff fascinates me UK. In a typical year, how many players does an area scout see? From there, how many does he wind up seeing multiple times? Does the area scout find out monetary demands or does he turn that over to a cross checker?

 

On a different topic, do teams employ a completely different set of scouts to focus on the minors than on the draft? Same with the majors?

 

Avg year they see 40 to 50 guys with about half of them multiple times. The regional crosschecker sees about 10 and the national crosschecker about 5.

 

The scouts that cover the minors are pro scouts. Some do both when time, the Cubs under Hendry would have area guys cover an organization top to bottom from the majors to rookie ball.

 

The majors have advanced scouts and standard scouting scouts.

[Guest]

@CarrieMuskat #Cubs have reportedly reached agreement with No. 1 Draft pick Kyle Schwarber on $3.125 million

[Guest]

Nearly 1.5 million under slot.

[Guest]

Jim Callis ‏@jimcallisMLB 58s

That order, but I bet all 3. @FantasyRundown: Of Sands, Steele, and Cease...rank them in terms of most likely signed by @Cubs? @MLBDraft

 

Jim Callis ‏@jimcallisMLB 1m

W/Schwarber, @Cubs get best college bat in @MLBDraft & save $1,496,200 vs pick $ at 4. He gets more than $ in teens, where projected to go.

[UMFan83]

Nearly 1.5 million under slot.

 

Holy hell. I expected under slot but not that much

[Guest]

So Cease pretty much needs TJS immediately, right? Am I thinking of the right guy?

[Guest]

What do I win for picking the under on the $3.3M number davell (?) threw out there?

 

 

 

Okay, so I didn't come out and say it. But I did figure they had a pre-draft deal in place that was very attractive.