2013 Playoffs Game Thread

[Irrelevant Dude]

It would be nice if Michael Wacha would wake the [expletive] up.

He won't. He'll just take over for Adam Wainwright like Adam Wainwright took over for Chris Carpenter. Just like Matt Adams and Allen Craig took over for Albert Pujols like Albert Pujols took over for Mark McGwire.

Then he will become a free agent, the Cardinals will be smart enough not to pay him big money, but someone else will and then he will suck. Rinse and repeat.

[gscool89]

Kershaw sure picked the perfect time to suck

[Guest]

@jjcoop36: .@jonmorosi: I've seen most of the 18 picked ahead of him. Rather have Buxton, maybe Correa and Russell. After that list runs out quick.

 

@jjcoop36: Like him a lot but yes. RT @OscarBluth5: @jjcoop36 @jonmorosi does Almora fall short?

 

Geez. JJ Cooper would rather have Wacha than Almora. Not sure if I should laugh at him or what.

[gscool89]

@jjcoop36: .@jonmorosi: I've seen most of the 18 picked ahead of him. Rather have Buxton, maybe Correa and Russell. After that list runs out quick.

 

@jjcoop36: Like him a lot but yes. RT @OscarBluth5: @jjcoop36 @jonmorosi does Almora fall short?

 

Geez. JJ Cooper would rather have Wacha than Almora. Not sure if I should laugh at him or what.

Well considering Wacha looks like the second coming of Cy Young, I don't disagree with him at all.

[Cubswin11]

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[imb]

Yeah almora is a nice teenager who gets injured. Wacha is destroying the playoffs and owning Keyshaw into the World Series. I'm inclined to agree with him.

[Sammy Sofa]

Yeah almora is a nice teenager who gets injured. Wacha is destroying the playoffs and owning Keyshaw into the World Series. I'm inclined to agree with him.

 

No kidding. This seemed like a really odd time to mock the guy for an opinion like that.

[gscool89]

I'd take the guy owning in the postseason over Buxton right now. I think Buxton will be tremendous but Wacha is doing it on the highest stage right now. Hard to argue with that.

[illiniguy]

I'd take the guy owning in the postseason over Buxton right now. I think Buxton will be tremendous but Wacha is doing it on the highest stage right now. Hard to argue with that.

I'd take Buxton, pitchers break a lot. Plus, Wacha isn't really this good.

[Can Of Corn]

Every time I see Marmol my respect for you guys increases.

[Garwilly]

[expletive] this [expletive].

[Guest]

Yeah almora is a nice teenager who gets injured. Wacha is destroying the playoffs and owning Keyshaw into the World Series. I'm inclined to agree with him.

 

No kidding. This seemed like a really odd time to mock the guy for an opinion like that.

 

He's a pitcher.

[imb]

That line of thinking is so tiring to me. I mean I get it, but how long do you extend it? If wacha is good again next year is it still "he's a pitcher"?

[illiniguy]

That line of thinking is so tiring to me. I mean I get it, but how long do you extend it? If wacha is good again next year is it still "he's a pitcher"?

Well Buxton is being comped to Trout. I'd rather have Trout than any pitcher in baseball.

[imb]

I'd rather have Buxton too, but we're talking about almora

[illiniguy]

I'd rather have Buxton too, but we're talking about almora

Buxton was brought up earlier. Yeah I'd go Wacha over Almora right now.

[Guest]

That line of thinking is so tiring to me. I mean I get it, but how long do you extend it? If wacha is good again next year is it still "he's a pitcher"?

 

Well, JJ Cooper was talking about their complete careers so it'll take more than a successful 1.5 seasons for me to not find it unreasonable that Buxton is the only one prospect you'd definitely take over Wacha. At this point, we're still judging Wacha based on a small sample and, yes, pitchers' stuff regress often (even more so with those pitchers' whose stuff improves rather suddenly).

 

I don't think my stance is something too crazy.

[Sammy Sofa]

Yeah almora is a nice teenager who gets injured. Wacha is destroying the playoffs and owning Keyshaw into the World Series. I'm inclined to agree with him.

 

No kidding. This seemed like a really odd time to mock the guy for an opinion like that.

 

He's a pitcher.

 

And Almora is an oft-injured kid. Yeah, he COULD work out, but right now it's not like picking Wacha over him is some ridiculous idea.

[Guest]

I'd rather have Buxton too, but we're talking about almora

 

I'm talking about JJ Cooper saying he'd take the Wacha over the field in the 2012 draft, excluding Buxton.

[imb]

He said buxton, correa, Russell and left the door open for others. People are taking this "but it's a pitcher" viewpoint way too far. You kind of need a few of them, you know.

[davell]

I get the reasoning, but I have to admit I'd trade Almora straight up for Wacha, if it were offered. I get that he may regress or get hurt, but I think the two plus pitches may be enough for him. I'd do it, partly because I'm pretty concerned about Almora's health himself and partly because I really want a dominant SP and Wacha has done nothing since being drafted that tells me he's not one.

[Guest]

He said buxton, correa, Russell and left the door open for others. People are taking this "but it's a pitcher" viewpoint way too far. You kind of need a few of them, you know.

 

Cooper said he would maybe take Correa or Russell over Wacha. It seems pretty bold to only maybe take either of those two top 10-15 prospects over Wacha (and that ignores that some guys prefer Almora to Russell):

 

@jjcoop36: .@jonmorosi: I've seen most of the 18 picked ahead of him. Rather have Buxton, maybe Correa and Russell. After that list runs out quick.

 

I'm not saying you don't need to draft pitchers or anything like that. We're trying to predict who will be the best player from the 2012 draft 15 years from now and it seems valid to consider that pitchers - even ones who come out of the gate quickly - still have a higher risk. (FYI, one of the reasons he fell in the draft is that some teams didn't like his medicals.)

[Guest]

I would not trade Almora for Wacha. Come at me.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

A pitcher with serious success in MLB > A position player with serious success in the MWL

[Guest]

A pitcher with serious success in MLB > A position player with serious success in the MWL

 

That is a beyond terrible oversimplification. At least replace "A"' with "This" in there to make it less laughable.