Random Other Sports Musings

[kujay]

I can't imagine that he could be prosecuted for anything absent evidence of intent of ANY wrongdoing

 

Right. If you watch the video, the car in front of Stewart had to swerve to miss the kid. As tragic as this is, I really think the person at fault here was the kid that died.

 

It would be nice if they could prosecute everybody who decided to be a fan of racing in the first place.

 

This. I mean, they got what they went to see, right?

[Guest]

Looked like [expletive] him up on purpose to me

 

The reports I have read indicate he isn't facing charges "yet" and that the local prosecutor is consulting an "expert"(presumably on how these particular machines behave when operated). There's no statute of limitation on a murder/manslaughter charge and there is no upside to charging Stewart right away; he's not a flight risk. Better to have your ducks in a row. Stewart is not out of the woods here at all.

 

By the way, his initial reaction smacked of callous indifference to the situation and/or a naive attempt to distract the general public from his potential culpability. It was a sort of, "Oh well, these things happen on the track. See you tomorrow!"; when in reality he was thinking, "I need to act like I did nothing wrong and hope people will buy it."

 

re-watching it, i'd tend to think that Stewart was trying to give him a bump with the side of his car and the dude got sucked under the tire. Definitely no intent to kill, but I can see him doing some jail time for some sort of negligent homicide or reckless indifference or one of those charges they talk about on Law and Order. Also, he's going to have to get used to ramen, most likely.

 

in related news, Law and Order plans to do an episode based on this event.

[Guest]

I do agree that you should be penalized and suspended if you get out of your car and walk towards another car head on like that. the deceased has to share a little culpability in engaging in an incredibly stupid and dangerous practice.

[Sammys Boombox]

I can't imagine that he could be prosecuted for anything absent evidence of intent of ANY wrongdoing

 

Right. If you watch the video, the car in front of Stewart had to swerve to miss the kid. As tragic as this is, I really think the person at fault here was the kid that died.

 

It would be nice if they could prosecute everybody who decided to be a fan of racing in the first place.

 

This. I mean, they got what they went to see, right?

 

I'm no fan of racing, but come on. Really?

[kujay]

I can't imagine that he could be prosecuted for anything absent evidence of intent of ANY wrongdoing

 

Right. If you watch the video, the car in front of Stewart had to swerve to miss the kid. As tragic as this is, I really think the person at fault here was the kid that died.

 

It would be nice if they could prosecute everybody who decided to be a fan of racing in the first place.

 

This. I mean, they got what they went to see, right?

 

I'm no fan of racing, but come on. Really?

 

No, not really. Well, a little.

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm no fan of racing, but come on. Really?

 

No, not really. Well, a little.

Maybe a bit more than a little, but not completely really. Kind of.

[RynoRules]

Call it vehicular manslaughter or plain manslaughter, it doesn't matter. If he intended to spin his wheels in order to kick dirt at him or intimidate him, he could be criminally culpable. Expert analysis of the video (behavior of the vehicle) should give the prosecutors an idea of what happened. It's not that difficult a concept.

 

In a million years, I don't know how you could differentiate between "kicking dirt" and hitting the gas to try to swerve away from the sudden appearance of an obstacle.

 

Maybe you can't - I'm not an expert on the behavior of motor vehicles. My point was that the notion that he can't be prosecuted absent evidence of intent or because he wasn't on a traditional road is absolutely incorrect.

 

I think you're talking about evidence of intent to kill him and others are talking evidence of intent to do anything wrong (i.e. anything other than race or try to avoid hitting a guy if he saw him)

 

I can't imagine that he could be prosecuted for anything absent evidence of intent of ANY wrongdoing

 

That's an interesting philosophical idea (no sarcasm intended). From a legal standpoint, he can argue that he didn't mean to do it, but if he did something negligent or reckless relative to "normal" operation of the vehicle, he is likely criminally culpable for the result.

[treebird]

come on guys, people going to races do not want to see a violent collision with a person.

 

people are too small to see from a distance and they hardly ever explode. people going to races want to see violent collisions between cars.

[kujay]

I'm no fan of racing, but come on. Really?

 

No, not really. Well, a little.

Maybe a bit more than a little, but not completely really. Kind of.

 

Something like that.

[Banedon]

come on guys, people going to races do not want to see a violent collision with a person.

 

people are too small to see from a distance and they hardly ever explode. people going to races want to see violent collisions between cars.

 

Exactly. But then they want them to climb out and walk away safely, like an episode of A-Team.

[JonJayCutler]

It would be nice if they could prosecute everybody who decided to be a fan of racing in the first place.

 

Color me very surprised that we got through almost three pages of serious discussion about racing before someone inevitably made this comment.

[jersey cubs fan]

It would be nice if they could prosecute everybody who decided to be a fan of racing in the first place.

 

Color me very surprised that we got through almost three pages of serious discussion about racing before someone inevitably made this comment.

 

that was a serious discussion about racing? I thought it was I'm not a lawyer but I play one on tv 101.

[kujay]

It would be nice if they could prosecute everybody who decided to be a fan of racing in the first place.

 

Color me very surprised that we got through almost three pages of serious discussion about racing before someone inevitably made this comment.

 

I wouldn't exactly call any of this a serious discussion about racing.

[Soul]

I do agree that you should be penalized and suspended if you get out of your car and walk towards another car head on like that. the deceased has to share a little culpability in engaging in an incredibly stupid and dangerous practice.

 

He paid for his mistake.

[SouthSideRyan]

It would be nice if they could prosecute everybody who decided to be a fan of racing in the first place.

 

Color me very surprised that we got through almost three pages of serious discussion about racing before someone inevitably made this comment.

 

He meant to say execute

[SouthSideRyan]

I do agree that you should be penalized and suspended if you get out of your car and walk towards another car head on like that. the deceased has to share a little culpability in engaging in an incredibly stupid and dangerous practice.

 

He paid for his mistake.

 

Not enough

[OleMissCub]

It would be nice if they could prosecute everybody who decided to be a fan of racing in the first place.

 

I second this. I simply cannot understand the thrill of, as Cartman would say, watching a bunch of cars going real fast then turnin' to the left sometimes.

[Flames24Rulz]

Please like my sport.

Please hate sports I don't like.

This is a sport.

This isn't a sport.

 

These discussions are the worst. Who gives a [expletive] about what people like and don't like?

[Guest]

Please like my sport.

Please hate sports I don't like.

This is a sport.

This isn't a sport.

 

These discussions are the worst. Who gives a [expletive] about what people like and don't like?

Because hockey is awful and I don't care what you say

[Banedon]

Please like my sport.

Please hate sports I don't like.

This is a sport.

This isn't a sport.

 

These discussions are the worst. Who gives a [expletive] about what people like and don't like?

Because hockey is awful and I don't care what you say

 

So's yer face.

[Flames24Rulz]

Please like my sport.

Please hate sports I don't like.

This is a sport.

This isn't a sport.

 

These discussions are the worst. Who gives a [expletive] about what people like and don't like?

Because hockey is awful and I don't care what you say

 

Sure, that's your opinion and that's fine. There's obviously nothing wrong with that.

 

I don't get why people who don't like racing have to be so adamant about the fact that they don't like racing, and act demeaning towards those that do.

[jersey cubs fan]

Please like my sport.

Please hate sports I don't like.

This is a sport.

This isn't a sport.

 

These discussions are the worst. Who gives a [expletive] about what people like and don't like?

Because hockey is awful and I don't care what you say

 

Sure, that's your opinion and that's fine. There's obviously nothing wrong with that.

 

I don't get why people who don't like racing have to be so adamant about the fact that they don't like racing, and act demeaning towards those that do.

 

So you are taking the this is a sport please like my sport side?

[kujay]

Please like my sport.

Please hate sports I don't like.

This is a sport.

This isn't a sport.

 

These discussions are the worst. Who gives a [expletive] about what people like and don't like?

Because hockey is awful and I don't care what you say

 

Sure, that's your opinion and that's fine. There's obviously nothing wrong with that.

 

I don't get why people who don't like racing have to be so adamant about the fact that they don't like racing, and act demeaning towards those that do.

 

There's a difference between people who don't like hockey or lacrosse or soccer and those who don't like racing. There are any number of completely valid reasons to bag on racing as a "sport," and obviously racing fans are easy fodder.

[Flames24Rulz]

Please like my sport.

Please hate sports I don't like.

This is a sport.

This isn't a sport.

 

These discussions are the worst. Who gives a [expletive] about what people like and don't like?

Because hockey is awful and I don't care what you say

 

Sure, that's your opinion and that's fine. There's obviously nothing wrong with that.

 

I don't get why people who don't like racing have to be so adamant about the fact that they don't like racing, and act demeaning towards those that do.

 

So you are taking the this is a sport please like my sport side?

 

I'm not at all -- you can like and dislike whatever you want. I just don't quite understand why people have to [expletive] all over those who like racing, for having a different interest than they do.

[Flames24Rulz]

Please like my sport.

Please hate sports I don't like.

This is a sport.

This isn't a sport.

 

These discussions are the worst. Who gives a [expletive] about what people like and don't like?

Because hockey is awful and I don't care what you say

 

Sure, that's your opinion and that's fine. There's obviously nothing wrong with that.

 

I don't get why people who don't like racing have to be so adamant about the fact that they don't like racing, and act demeaning towards those that do.

 

There's a difference between people who don't like hockey or lacrosse or soccer and those who don't like racing. There are any number of completely valid reasons to bag on racing as a "sport," and obviously racing fans are easy fodder.

 

Stereotypes, stereotypes, stereotypes...