2014 Draft Discussion

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

ok rank the four pitchers by who YOU prefer

 

kolek

rodon

aiken

hoffman

[davell]

ok rank the four pitchers by who YOU prefer

 

kolek

rodon

aiken

hoffman

 

Same. And if Hoffman is hurt, 4 is Grant Holmes for me, unless Beede really turns things around.

[Guest]

Rodon

Hoffman

Kolek

 

Aiken

[Redfoot]

Rodon

Kolek

Aiken

Nola

[Cubswin11]

Kolek

Aiken

Rodon

Beede

[A New Era]

Kolek (liked him the best from the beginning, have to stay loyal to that thought)

Rodon

Aiken

 

Hoffman

Nola

[CP_414]

Rodon

Kolek

Aiken

 

Jackson

Gordon

[Guest]

Aiken

Hoffman/Rodon (this time last week, Hoffman was on his own at 1)

Kolek

 

Holmes

[Tryptamine]

Kolek

Rodon

Aiken

Hoffman

Nola/Holmes (Pretty much in a tie for me)

[bukie]

Rodon

 

 

 

 

Aiken

Kolek

 

 

 

Hoffman

 

 

-----why have more than 4?

[Guest]

Rodon

Hoffman

Kolek

 

Aiken

Rodon

 

Hoffman

 

Kolek

Aiken

 

I really don't want the Cubs to draft a high school pitcher who is not like a Kerry Wood or Josh Beckett with their first pick. He's just so far away from helping.

Edited April 30, 2014 by CubinNY

[sneakypower]

Rodon

Aiken

Hoffman

Kolek

[davell]

Rodon

 

 

 

 

Aiken

Kolek

 

 

 

Hoffman

 

 

-----why have more than 4?

 

Because Hoffman is taking two weeks off due to arm soreness.

[Guest]

Rodon

Hoffman

Kolek

 

Aiken

Rodon

 

Hoffman

 

Kolek

Aiken

 

I really don't want the Cubs to draft a high school pitcher who is not like a Kerry Wood or Josh Beckett with their first pick. He's just so far away from helping.

 

Is Kolek not like a Kerry Wood or a Josh Beckett (at least at draft time)?

[bukie]

Rodon

 

 

 

 

Aiken

Kolek

 

 

 

Hoffman

 

 

-----why have more than 4?

 

Because Hoffman is taking two weeks off due to arm soreness.

 

The gulf between 4 and 5 is big enough that one of the 4 announcing retirement next week would drop them even with 5.

[bukie]

Also drafting based on current major league need is the worst draft strategy ever.

[davell]

Personally, I think people are really sleeping on Holmes. I like him a lot.

[craig]

...I really don't want the Cubs to draft a high school pitcher who is not like a Kerry Wood or Josh Beckett with their first pick. He's just so far away from helping.

 

Is Kolek not like a Kerry Wood or a Josh Beckett (at least at draft time)?

 

No. They had good/great breaking balls pre-draft, Kolek doesnt. Beckett also had better fastball command than either Wood or Kolek.

 

That may not all be a bad thing in the long run for Kolek. All those big-time curves/slurves by Wood might have made him a better ace-prospect, but it may also have made him more likely to need surgery. Kolek with mostly fastballs and a very controlled workload might be a much better health risk than Wood was.

[Guest]

Is Kolek not like a Kerry Wood or a Josh Beckett (at least at draft time)?

 

Kolek has the fastball (actually, it's better than Wood's or Beckett's at the same age) but his secondary stuff isn't as good as those two. That makes him much rawer and more of a project than Wood or Beckett.

 

Personally, I think people are really sleeping on Holmes. I like him a lot.

 

I like him a lot and am not sure why a guy like Jim Callis doesn't even have him in his top 10. Sure, his stuff doesn't project to improve but he has a good enough FB, better secondaries than Kolek and far better control.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

holy [expletive], massive difference in opinion on ranking these guys.

[RammyFanny]

Jerry (Joliet)

If Aiken, Kolek, and Rodon are off the board, who would you take at number 4?

 

Klaw

(1:11 PM)

Today, Erick Fedde and Nick Gordon would probably be my next two names. That's with Hoffman (and Finnegan) on the shelf, though.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I want Nick Gordon now because not a pitcher.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

ugh he's not like dee gordon is he

[Guest]

I do like Fedde a lot.

[Vinestal]

I do like Fedde a lot.

I don't know anything about Fedde or Gordon can you give me a quick summary of what you know about them?