2014 Draft Discussion

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

I think I've flip-flopped on Jackson... really wouldn't mind if they took him if Kolek, Rodon, and Aiken are gone.

[Thrilho]

His whole career is pretty impressive. He had 17 HRs in 130 PAs as a sophomore, has been very patient all along, and this year had cut down on the Ks a lot.

 

To summarize the above link:

 

2012 .400/.538/.1010 15.7 K% 16.2 BB%

2013 .343/.479/.805 15.5 K% 20.4 BB%

2014 .415/.600/.1000 7.3 K% 21.1 BB%

 

Also, at 6'2" 215 he looks like a beast. There's no Kris Bryant wireyness here. Here's a video from last year (hitting starts at 1:18).

 

[imb]

"patience" in HS baseball means nothing

[jersey cubs fan]

"patience" in HS baseball means nothing

DON'T SAY THAT IT WAS MY BEST SKILL

[Thrilho]

"patience" in HS baseball means nothing

 

 

Josh Vitters agrees. In his senior year he had 14 BB and 6 K in 91 PAs. His .390 avg and 9 HR look fairly similar to Jackson as well. Maybe he'd have progressed differently with the development team we've got in the minors now, we don't have a lot of highly selected HS position players to make that case with yet. You certainly can't use Almora to make any claims about instilling patience. Yet, at least.

Edited May 6, 2014 by Thrilho

[Guest]

"patience" in HS baseball means nothing

 

Yeah, I'm very intrigued by Jackson but HS stats won't show patience (scouting may help).

[jersey cubs fan]

"patience" in HS baseball means nothing

 

 

Josh Vitters agrees. In his senior year he had 14 BB and 6 K in 91 PAs.

 

Were they intentional?

[Guest]

"patience" in HS baseball means nothing

 

 

Josh Vitters agrees. In his senior year he had 14 BB and 6 K in 91 PAs. His .390 avg and 9 HR look fairly similar to Jackson as well. Maybe he'd have progressed differently with the development team we've got in the minors now, we don't have a lot of highly selected HS position players to make that case with yet. You certainly can't use Almora to make any claims about installing patience. Yet, at least.

 

The problem with BB rates in high school is you can't tell if they're legitimate walks or intentional/unintentional intentional walks. Even in talent rich Southern California, Jackson and Vitters probably got pitched around a bit.

[Thrilho]

BA also said Vitters had "the second best strike zone judgement" in the 2007 draft. So...based on a sample size of one, high school strike zone judgement means little.

 

As a side note, Nick Gordon is at .507/.581/.920 with 5 HR 8 BB 3 K in 74 PA. Based on what I know so far, I'd take Jackson.

[jersey cubs fan]

I think the lesson with Vitters is you don't draft a high school player who is currently dying from mono.

[jersey cubs fan]

BA also said Vitters had "the second best strike zone judgement" in the 2007 draft.

 

That just tells you scouty types have poor judgement.

[Guest]

I think the lesson with Vitters is you don't draft a high school player who is currently dying from mono.

+1

[Guest]

I think the lesson with Vitters is you don't draft a high school player who is currently dying from mono.

 

I thought that was Simpson. Vitters had mono too?

[jersey cubs fan]

I think the lesson with Vitters is you don't draft a high school player who is currently dying from mono.

 

I thought that was Simpson. Vitters had mono too?

 

I thought he had it at draft time, while Simpson got it after being drafted?

 

I don't know. There was something about his current physical condition at draft time.

[imb]

plus he looked like a dork

[Cubswin11]

I think the lesson with Vitters is you don't draft a high school player who is currently dying from mono.

 

I thought that was Simpson. Vitters had mono too?

 

I thought he had it at draft time, while Simpson got it after being drafted?

 

I don't know. There was something about his current physical condition at draft time.

I think Vitters got it around draft time but it lasted into the start of the next season and set him back from starting on time/regaining his strength.

[Guest]

wtf is with all these guys getting mono right when they're starting pro baseball

 

 

oh wait

[jersey cubs fan]

wtf is with all these guys getting mono right when they're starting pro baseball

 

 

oh wait

 

The new market inefficiency is providing less skanky hos.

[Guest]

Vitters had mono his senior year in HS. Simpson got it right after he signed.

[Guest]

I'd take him off the Cubs draft board for 1.4.

 

@johnmanuelba: Scouting source has been told @hoff_23 will not pitch this weekend for East Carolina. Sounds like definite setback for #mlbdraft prospect

[Guest]

Well that's pretty much a worst case scenario.

[Guest]

@KendallRogersPG: .@ECUBaseball RHP Jeff Hoffman will not pitch this weekend, per Billy Godwin. Said he’s not ready, reevaluated next week. #mlbdraft #ECU

 

@KendallRogersPG: Other sources are saying Hoffman should be ready to go next week, and that jives what Godwin has thought the past week or so. #MLBDraft

[ConstableRabbit]

Well that's pretty much a worst case scenario.

Maybe it's the stomach flu.

[Guest]

I'd take him off the Cubs draft board for 1.4.

 

@johnmanuelba: Scouting source has been told @hoff_23 will not pitch this weekend for East Carolina. Sounds like definite setback for #mlbdraft prospect

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=manaea000sea

[Guest]

I'd take him off the Cubs draft board for 1.4.

 

@johnmanuelba: Scouting source has been told @hoff_23 will not pitch this weekend for East Carolina. Sounds like definite setback for #mlbdraft prospect

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=manaea000sea

http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=brownl001rob