Random Baseball Musings

[SouthSideRyan]

And that the Giants had a legitimate gripe and that we for some reason supported them in their gripe? (Take our win, please)

[Guest]

The Giants did not have a legitimate gripe, but we were nice guys and humored them and then beat them anyway.

[SouthSideRyan]

The Giants did not have a legitimate gripe, but we were nice guys and humored them and then beat them anyway.

 

The Cubs had an understaffed groundscrew who did such a shitty job that 10 minutes of rain ruined the field. Do we not have a responsibility to have the field in playing shape barring extreme circumstances? If the sprinklers turned on in the bottom of the 5th and we couldn't shut them off, do they not have a gripe?

 

ETA: And I see a difference between "humoring" and "advocating"

[Guest]

IMO, unless there's some reason to think the Cubs maliciously let the field become unplayable when they could have otherwise saved it, then no, there is no responsibility. There's a number of factors that caused the entire situation(grounds crew staffing, a very fast moving storm, umpires that didn't call for a delay very quickly), I don't see any reason for the Giants to have the right to complain that they had bad luck with circumstances.

[jersey cubs fan]

IMO, unless there's some reason to think the Cubs maliciously let the field become unplayable when they could have otherwise saved it, then no, there is no responsibility. There's a number of factors that caused the entire situation(grounds crew staffing, a very fast moving storm, umpires that didn't call for a delay very quickly), I don't see any reason for the Giants to have the right to complain that they had bad luck with circumstances.

 

Jed Hoyer and Theo Epstein completely disagree with you.

[UMFan83]

Jesus, the latest Derek Jeter article on ESPN discusses Jeter's achievement of never being ejected from a game in his career and how this makes him a hero to children everywhere.

 

http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/11582355/derek-jeter-umps-make-call-captain-career

[Burtonbell]

Ugh, I cant wait until next years draft when the "next Jeter" will be picked, or when the articles in Spring Training anoint the next Jeter, or when the first player to get kicked out of a game next years gets compared to Jeter, or when a SS runs into the stands and makes a "spectacular" catch a la Jeter!

 

So when does ESPN add the "Jeter Way" to its list of stats for players? I think its grit + hustle + classiness + a winning smile + Years with Yankees and then divide that by how many hot women you slept with + Championship rings.

[chuckywang]

Dang, how come we didn't sign Phil Hughes?

[chuckywang]

Ok as much as I hated Jeter his entire career, THAT was pretty badass.

[Irrelevant Dude]

Ok as much as I hated Jeter his entire career, THAT was pretty badass.

Yep. That was a nice way to go out. Good for him.

[CubInOK]

Yeah jeets.

[USSoccer]

That pitch was so grooved.

[UMFan83]

That pitch was so grooved.

 

Hah. Aren't the orioles still fighting for the best record in the AL?

[ScrubMD]

The Onion @TheOnion

Derek Jeter Goes Out On Top As Yankees Miss Playoffs For Second Straight Year

 

Maybe if they spend that $12 million on a player worth more than 0.1 WAR (which how the hell does Jeter have a positive WAR?), that $200m payroll can get them back to the playoffs.

 

#BitterCubsFan

[Sammy Sofa]

This is getting ridiculous how much everyone on BT is washing Jeter's balls over how he "only played shortstop." Why is he getting praised for playing a spot he should have moved off of years ago at the very least, and probably should have moved off of when they signed ARod? He basically told the Yankees he was staying there and then never moved off it despite that being the smart move several times over.

[Soul]

Ugh, I cant wait until next years draft when the "next Jeter" will be picked, or when the articles in Spring Training anoint the next Jeter, or when the first player to get kicked out of a game next years gets compared to Jeter, or when a SS runs into the stands and makes a "spectacular" catch a la Jeter!

 

So when does ESPN add the "Jeter Way" to its list of stats for players? I think its grit + hustle + classiness + a winning smile + Years with Yankees and then divide that by how many hot women you slept with + Championship rings.

 

Sorry, but Hawk already created WTW

[Guest]

Evan Meek I hope the bad things in life happen to you and only you.

[BCVM22]

That pitch was so grooved.

 

Additionally, look where the second baseman was playing, for a guy with Jeter's opposite field tendencies.

 

Buck Showalter knows the score.

[bukie]

So Phil Hughes had an incentive in his contract where he would get $500k for pitching 210 IP. He pitched 8 innings tonight with only 96 pitches thrown. Predictably the Twins did not have him come back out for the 9th inning, meaning he will likely finish the season with 209.2 IP

 

Edit: ok I just read that there was an hour rain delay between the 8th and 9th innings. That changes the story from "twins screwed him" to "terrible luck"

The Twins asked Hughes if he wanted to pitch 1/3 of an inning over the weekend to get the incentive, and Hughes declined.

[XZero771679666304]

This is getting ridiculous how much everyone on BT is washing Jeter's balls over how he "only played shortstop." Why is he getting praised for playing a spot he should have moved off of years ago at the very least, and probably should have moved off of when they signed ARod? He basically told the Yankees he was staying there and then never moved off it despite that being the smart move several times over.

 

 

One of the most laughably false and most pervasive myths of the the last 30 years of baseball is this "Derek Jeter is a transcendent fielder" fallacy. It has been totally accepted by the mainstream sports media, and it will follow him all the way to Cooperstown. It's total BS, but it's almost heresy in most baseball circles (the meatball-y ones, at least) to point that out. It doesn't jive with the reverent narrative.

 

He's probably done as well as he could with his very limited range, but he's never even been an average defender at SS, at least not in 12-13 years.

[XZero771679666304]

Also, did Jeter refuse to move off of SS when ARod joined the team, or was it something they didn't want to ask him to do out of respect or some such nonsense? I can't recall. Edited September 26, 2014 by XZero77

[Guest]

Derek Jeter won 5 Gold Gloves. Five times a group of people paid to talk about and analyze baseball voted and collectively decided there were zero AL shortstops better than Jeter defensively. I may need to lie down for a while.

[Janelle-Alexis]

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11509224/metric-proof-derek-jeter-winningest-ever

 

First, about his Italian-dinner defense ("past-a diving Jeter"). The best estimates (available at Baseball-Reference.com) say that over his career, Jeter has been 243 runs worse than an average shortstop, a historically enormous total. But the man has spent 2,662 games at arguably baseball's most demanding defensive position, so calling him terrible is like condemning a sushi chef or test pilot or anyone else involved in work that is highly technical and very public. Even if he's not the best in his business, how bad can he be if he's spent 20 years on the job?

[Sammys Boombox]

That pitch was so grooved.

 

Additionally, look where the second baseman was playing, for a guy with Jeter's opposite field tendencies.

 

Buck Showalter knows the score.

 

I can't imagine Buck Showalter would throw away a game just for the Legend of Jeter, but I watched the game on YES and from the shot they showed the 2B was really close to 2B and the SS was not even in the picture which means he was closer to 3B than 2B. Just seems really odd to play Jeter that way and then put a fastball on the outer half...

 

Edit: To be fair his spray chart is not so exaggerated for 2014.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/spraycharts.aspx?playerid=826&position=SS&type=battedball

[apete6]

So Phil Hughes had an incentive in his contract where he would get $500k for pitching 210 IP. He pitched 8 innings tonight with only 96 pitches thrown. Predictably the Twins did not have him come back out for the 9th inning, meaning he will likely finish the season with 209.2 IP

 

Edit: ok I just read that there was an hour rain delay between the 8th and 9th innings. That changes the story from "twins screwed him" to "terrible luck"

The Twins asked Hughes if he wanted to pitch 1/3 of an inning over the weekend to get the incentive, and Hughes declined.

 

What a moron. When he's old and pissed all of his money away on some ponzi scheme, he'll wish he had that $500k. It's not like the owner needs it or anything. At the very least, take it and donate it to charity.