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PBR is a great beer in the adjunct grain class. It wins taste competitions over and over. I can see why people might not like it, but if one is comparing it to the Budweisers of the world there is no equal. I think some people don't like it because of the perception of the people who drink it. Hipster got on the bandwagon because it is a cheap beer that tastes good and wasn't massively marketed.

 

i would probably put it above the coors lights and budweisers of the world, but that's really damning with faint praise.

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Ice cold PBR in a bottle is hard to beat

Let's just agree to you being wrong on this one. :-)

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The Mayor's office does appear to think they'll be starting this offseason, among other news:

 

The Cubs will not be required to compensate Chicago taxpayers — beyond the $4.75 million in commitments they’ve made to Wrigleyville residents — for the use of public streets and sidewalks needed to expand 99-year-old Wrigley Field, City Hall said Wednesday.

 

The $500 million plan approved by the City Council calls for the stadium’s right- and left-field walls to be extended outward by as much as 10 feet, taking out the sidewalk on Sheffield and a lane of traffic on Waveland.

 

 

During marathon hearings on the Cubs plan to renovate Wrigley and develop the land around it, community leaders complained about the taking of public streets and sidewalks and, at the very least, demanded compensation for it.

 

The decision to waive additional compensation is not the mayor’s only concession to the Cubs.

 

He’s also planning a legislative “fix” to remedy the Cubs’ complaints about the ordinance that gave the team the green light to play up to 46 night games-per-season.

 

It will remove wording that gives the city unprecedented control over when rained-out games are rescheduled and when nationally televised games are played.

 

“If we’re successful on the field and chosen to play additional games on national television, we would need to choose between violating Major League Baseball rules or violating city ordinance,” Mike Lufrano, senior vice president of community affairs for the Cubs told the aldermen last spring.

 

At the Oct.16 City Council meeting, Emanuel also plans to introduce an ordinance authorizing the closing of Sheffield for street fairs during weekend home games between Memorial Day and Labor Day, beginning two hours before the first pitch and ending at the end of the second inning.

 

Once all of those changes are in place, Emanuel is hoping to see some action on the $500 million project.

 

“We expect construction to begin in November,” said a top mayoral aide, who asked to remain anonymous.

 

Another Emanuel adviser added, “The mayor is meeting his commitments and expects the Cubs to do the same. But, we also are encouraging them and the rooftops to work out their differences.”

 

Cubs spokesman Julian Green said the mayor’s decision to waive compensation for the encroachment on Waveland and Sheffield is appropriate considering the “significant economic benefit” that the project will produce.

 

Green said the Cubs are prepared to do significant structural and electrical work at Wrigley during the off-season. But, he said, “Until we get a resolution with the rooftops, we will not begin construction. And that has yet to happen.”

 

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/22930553-418/cubs-wont-have-to-give-taxpayers-more-after-475m-for-wrigley-renovation.html

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Is there any way that litigation with the rooftops could even cost them more than another lost season of construction will?
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Is there any way that litigation with the rooftops could even cost them more than another lost season of construction will?

Yes

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The correct response from the Cubs should be, "Well, the reason why we're not starting any renovations is because we're moving. And we don't want to sink another cent into the place. We're making arrangements with the White Sox and Brewers to use their ballparks beginning in 2015 while we make arrangements for a new facility to open up in Rosemont, which we hope will be ready in time for the start of the 2016 season. We've been working behind the scenes with Rosemont for the past several months. We needed a second plan in place because we just haven't been able to work with the groups we need to work with to keep Wrigley Field a viable place to play. Sorry."

 

I know it's a pipe dream, but it would be soooo cool to see the reaction of Tunney and rooftop owners.

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The correct response from the Cubs should be, "Well, the reason why we're not starting any renovations is because we're moving. And we don't want to sink another cent into the place. We're making arrangements with the White Sox and Brewers to use their ballparks beginning in 2015 while we make arrangements for a new facility to open up in Rosemont, which we hope will be ready in time for the start of the 2016 season. We've been working behind the scenes with Rosemont for the past several months. We needed a second plan in place because we just haven't been able to work with the groups we need to work with to keep Wrigley Field a viable place to play. Sorry."

 

I know it's a pipe dream, but it would be soooo cool to see the reaction of Tunney and rooftop owners.

 

I just don't know how much credibility that threat would have. There's not many people who would believe the Cubs are actually in the process of moving to Rosemont or whatever.

 

They'd need to do something more to make it real. For example, when Ricketts had Naples, Florida thinking that they would get the Cubs to move there for Spring Training. Those people were holding meetings with the Cubs, town-hall type Q&A sessions, etc. It very publicly felt like the Cubs were moving in that direction. I don't know if that was all just a facade, but if it was, it worked very well.

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The correct response from the Cubs should be, "Well, the reason why we're not starting any renovations is because we're moving. And we don't want to sink another cent into the place. We're making arrangements with the White Sox and Brewers to use their ballparks beginning in 2015 while we make arrangements for a new facility to open up in Rosemont, which we hope will be ready in time for the start of the 2016 season. We've been working behind the scenes with Rosemont for the past several months. We needed a second plan in place because we just haven't been able to work with the groups we need to work with to keep Wrigley Field a viable place to play. Sorry."

 

I know it's a pipe dream, but it would be soooo cool to see the reaction of Tunney and rooftop owners.

 

I just don't know how much credibility that threat would have. There's not many people who would believe the Cubs are actually in the process of moving to Rosemont or whatever.

 

They'd need to do something more to make it real. For example, when Ricketts had Naples, Florida thinking that they would get the Cubs to move there for Spring Training. Those people were holding meetings with the Cubs, town-hall type Q&A sessions, etc. It very publicly felt like the Cubs were moving in that direction. I don't know if that was all just a facade, but if it was, it worked very well.

 

I don't even want them to even threaten to move. I would love a press conference where they just say, "We're gone. You had your chance. It clearly didn't work. We're moving." Again, a pipe dream, but Tunney's game is old. Just show him he overplayed his hand.

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Cant Ricketts just fund someone from NSBB's campaign to become the new Alderman and replace Tunney?

Or make Sammy Sosa the new Alderman, that would be great.

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