Cubs trade for Ian Stewart/Weathers pg. 5 (Colvin+DJ)

[davell]

Yeah, don't get me wrong, I'd much rather have had Headley as well. But we don't know what the pricetag was either. I'm fine with this. On to the next move.

[Little Slide Rooter]

If the Padres still have any interest in James Russell I'd be more than happy to build a package around him for Orlando Hudson. Maybe Russell, DeWitt, and Castillo?

[Cubs Evangelist]

Not exactly thrilled with the following core roster:

 

Soriano

Byrd

DeJesus

Stewart

Castro

Barney

1B - Open

Soto

 

It's like looking at an unfinished puzzle, I trust Theo/Hoyer, but man, this is a touch frustrating.

[toonsterwu]

Really like the gamble. I don't love Stewart that much, but for the cost, it was worth the risk to see if he develops. I've never been huge on LeMahieu, and Colvin didn't have much of a future here.

 

I'm not too enthused on Casey Weathers, but he's got some late inning potential. Solid move to address a position, and the price was a bit less than I thought. Sounds good. Now ... first base, maybe rotation and they'll have had a decent offseason.

[bukie]

I can't believe in the whole month the new front office has been here, all they've done is make two good buy-low deals and thinned out the glut of middle infielders in the system. On top of that, they didn't heavily overpay for Pujols and Buehrle, and refused to move the team to LA to accommodate Wilson.

[Guest]

Not exactly thrilled with the following core roster:

 

Soriano

Byrd

DeJesus

Stewart

Castro

Barney

1B - Open

Soto

 

It's like looking at an unfinished puzzle, I trust Theo/Hoyer, but man, this is a touch frustrating.

On the bright side, if Stewart recovers to form (or reaches previous expectations), there's only one bad offensive player on that list in Barney. What it lacks is a big star.

 

Put Fielder in that open spot and the lineup suddenly looks pretty solid.

[USSoccer]

Glad we're acting like a major market team this winter

Because when you're a major market team, a move's not worth making unless it costs you 25 mil.

 

If this were Jim Hendry letting Ramirez walk and replacing him with Ian Stewart, the rage would be palpable

 

And Trey is right-ish will get real around here when we don't win the bid for Darvish (still not sold on him) and if we pass on Fielder.

[bukie]

Glad we're acting like a major market team this winter

Because when you're a major market team, a move's not worth making unless it costs you 25 mil.

 

If this were Jim Hendry letting Ramirez walk and replacing him with Ian Stewart, the rage would be palpable

 

And Trey is right-ish will get real around here when we don't win the bid for Darvish (still not sold on him) and if we pass on Fielder.

If it were Jim Hendry, neither deal would have happened. Complaining about the deal being one a major market team doesn't make is stupid.

[17 Seconds]

Not exactly thrilled with the following core roster:

 

Soriano

Byrd

DeJesus

Stewart

Castro

Barney

1B - Open

Soto

 

It's like looking at an unfinished puzzle, I trust Theo/Hoyer, but man, this is a touch frustrating.

 

you seriously think that this is a "core roster" for any type of future team? come on.

 

you're not looking at an unfinished puzzle, you're looking at a puzzle that hasn't even started yet.

[Wrigley Rat]

At least one person is speculating that Weathers could be compensation to the Red Sox or San Diego.

[USSoccer]

Glad we're acting like a major market team this winter

Because when you're a major market team, a move's not worth making unless it costs you 25 mil.

 

If this were Jim Hendry letting Ramirez walk and replacing him with Ian Stewart, the rage would be palpable

 

And Trey is right-ish will get real around here when we don't win the bid for Darvish (still not sold on him) and if we pass on Fielder.

If it were Jim Hendry, neither deal would have happened. Complaining about the deal being one a major market team doesn't make is stupid.

 

We're worse now than when we ended the season. And we sucked last season.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

On the bright side, if Stewart recovers to form (or reaches previous expectations), there's only one bad offensive player on that list in Barney. What it lacks is a big star.

 

Put Fielder in that open spot and the lineup suddenly looks pretty solid.

 

On the dim side, if Stewart continues to be bad or his wrist injury causes lingering problems, we've just blown a couple of million, playing time and a roster spot on a terrible player.

 

I'm beginning to wonder if Epstein's idea of "parallel fronts" is to just buy a bunch of lightning-in-a-bottle lottery ticket players and hope they all have career years at the same time.

[bukie]

Glad we're acting like a major market team this winter

Because when you're a major market team, a move's not worth making unless it costs you 25 mil.

 

If this were Jim Hendry letting Ramirez walk and replacing him with Ian Stewart, the rage would be palpable

 

And Trey is right-ish will get real around here when we don't win the bid for Darvish (still not sold on him) and if we pass on Fielder.

If it were Jim Hendry, neither deal would have happened. Complaining about the deal being one a major market team doesn't make is stupid.

 

We're worse now than when we ended the season. And we sucked last season.

And while it'll be tough when they break camp next week with nobody manning first, I'm mostly grateful the team still has 2 months to be built. Both moves so far have improved the team, and Ramirez wasn't coming back anyway.

[Guest]

Glad we're acting like a major market team this winter

Because when you're a major market team, a move's not worth making unless it costs you 25 mil.

 

If this were Jim Hendry letting Ramirez walk and replacing him with Ian Stewart, the rage would be palpable

 

And Trey is right-ish will get real around here when we don't win the bid for Darvish (still not sold on him) and if we pass on Fielder.

If we pass on Fielder and don't win the bid on Darvish, but trade for Upton and King Felix I'd be ok with those events.

 

I'd have loved to have gotten some of the FA's that signed at reasonable deals. I'd have even done an unreasonable deal for Pujols. But I'll wait to see what the finished product looks like before I start to complain.

[17 Seconds]

for the people are getting upset at the lack of moves, what exactly would you have liked cubs management to do differently? nobody wants pujols at 250m, we have no place for reyes, nobody wants buerhle at whatever he got, nobody wants bell at 27 mil, and we had no chance at cj wilson. as for ramirez, it was pretty much universally considered a good decision on here to let him walk, and it seems inevitable that he's going to get a big contract that nobody here would want any part of.

 

so again, what exactly would you have liked them to do differently so far?

[Guest]

On the bright side, if Stewart recovers to form (or reaches previous expectations), there's only one bad offensive player on that list in Barney. What it lacks is a big star.

 

Put Fielder in that open spot and the lineup suddenly looks pretty solid.

 

On the dim side, if Stewart continues to be bad or his wrist injury causes lingering problems, we've just blown a couple of million, playing time and a roster spot on a terrible player.

 

I'm beginning to wonder if Epstein's idea of "parallel fronts" is to just buy a bunch of lightning-in-a-bottle lottery ticket players and hope they all have career years at the same time.

We've done one of those so far. Who says that's the prototype for what the team will accomplish?

[Cubs Evangelist]

Not exactly thrilled with the following core roster:

 

Soriano

Byrd

DeJesus

Stewart

Castro

Barney

1B - Open

Soto

 

It's like looking at an unfinished puzzle, I trust Theo/Hoyer, but man, this is a touch frustrating.

 

you seriously think that this is a "core roster" for any type of future team? come on.

 

you're not looking at an unfinished puzzle, you're looking at a puzzle that hasn't even started yet.

 

I agree that this is not our opening day lineup, in fact as Tim mentioned, a prime-slugger away and I'll add a Soriano trade/replacement and it starts to look better. Theo/Hoyer are worlds smarter than I am, so I continue to trust, just slightly jealous we don't have Fielder right now.

[XZero771679666304]

Christ, you'd think it was February the way people are freaking out right now.

[Elwood]

I'm beginning to wonder if Epstein's idea of "parallel fronts" is to just buy a bunch of lightning-in-a-bottle lottery ticket players and hope they all have career years at the same time.

 

Settle down. Take a deep breath. It's only December.

[Guest]

If Headley was going to cost actual assets of consequence, and not guys who we hope are almost starting caliber someday, then I far prefer Stewart. Kinda weird to trade Lemahieu on the same day that Flaherty and Gonzalez get claimed, but with Baker and DeWitt still around there's not exactly a gaping hole.

 

This is a trade where we got the two highest upside players, the most expected production starting this year, and we pay the hefty price of a couple million for the privilege. This is why Theo is the best.

[XZero771679666304]

for the people are getting upset at the lack of moves, what exactly would you have liked cubs management to do differently? nobody wants pujols at 250m, we have no place for reyes, nobody wants buerhle at whatever he got, nobody wants bell at 27 mil, and we had no chance at cj wilson. as for ramirez, it was pretty much universally considered a good decision on here to let him walk, and it seems inevitable that he's going to get a big contract that nobody here would want any part of.

 

so again, what exactly would you have liked them to do differently so far?

 

People are just succumbing to need to see the team do something big because other teams are doing something big. Nevermind that it's only been a couple of teams or that the moves they've made have been largely stupid. Or that it's pretty early.

 

I expect that from some people, but it's spreading.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

We've done one of those so far. Who says that's the prototype for what the team will accomplish?

 

I didn't say it was. I said "I wonder." Because we only have a handful of major holes to fill, and it seems like we just filled one of them with that type of player.

 

I'm mainly worried because we do kinda seem to be running out of money. I really, really hate these little $2 million overpays that add up and rob a roster of its potential.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Christ, you'd think it was February the way people are freaking out right now.

 

Nobody is freaking out. Well, maybe jersey, but he always does. I'm a little annoyed and a little concerned, but that's a long long way from freaking out.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

so again, what exactly would you have liked them to do differently so far?

 

Not acquire Ian Stewart.

[XZero771679666304]

Christ, you'd think it was February the way people are freaking out right now.

 

Nobody is freaking out. Well, maybe jersey, but he always does. I'm a little annoyed and a little concerned, but that's a long long way from freaking out.

 

Otherwise known as being impatient. It's too early for even that.

 

If we're still here a month from now, I'll be on board.