College Basketball 2011-2012

[Bruno7481]

Oh well. Look forward to Sunday night and see how things shake out. I think Indiana will be a 4 and I don't think the NCAA will be able to resist putting them in UNC's bracket. No guarantee they would make to the S16 though.

You might be in with Marquette too. Although they might like battling brothers more than coach vs. old school.

 

If a IU/UNC matchup does take place, I wonder if the parents would appreciate that they just have to go to one location, or be really pissed off.

[illiniguy]

Oh well. Look forward to Sunday night and see how things shake out. I think Indiana will be a 4 and I don't think the NCAA will be able to resist putting them in UNC's bracket. No guarantee they would make to the S16 though.

You might be in with Marquette too. Although they might like battling brothers more than coach vs. old school.

 

If a IU/UNC matchup does take place, I wonder if the parents would appreciate that they just have to go to one location, or be really pissed off.

Probably unhappy. That's a shitty spot to put them in.

[Bruno7481]

Yeah, I don't think I would like it as a parent. Sure would make for good TV though.

[UMFan83]

With the way things have gone the last 2 days, I think Michigan clinches a 3 seed with a win over Minnesota in a couple hours. According to Bracket Matrix, the current 3 seeds are Baylor, Michigan, Marquette, Georgetown. The 4 seeds are Indiana, Wisconsin, Temple and Florida State. Of the other 3 seeds, Marquette and Georgetown lost in their first conference tournament games. Indiana lost in the 2nd round of theirs and Temple was knocked out of their tournament as well that they should have cruised in.

 

So if Michigan wins tonight and lost in the Semi's, that would be further than 4 of the other 7 teams got to, and the loss would either be to OSU or Purdue, with neither being bad enough to drop them to 4. I didn't look at the 5 and 6 seeds though so maybe if they won their conference tourney they could jump up to 3 and knock Michigan out.

 

All and all, the results so far have been very favorable for Michigan's seeding purposes.

[Bruno7481]

I think Michigan is a 3 assuming they win. Wisconsin might get there as well with Marquette and Georgetown losing. IU had an outside shot if they could have went further, but that chance is gone.

[Andy]

I think Michigan is a 3 assuming they win. Wisconsin might get there as well with Marquette and Georgetown losing. IU had an outside shot if they could have went further, but that chance is gone.

I could see one of Marquette/Georgetown dropping to a 4, but I feel like Wisconsin has to beat MSU to really make that likely.

[SouthSideRyan]

I think Michigan is a 3 assuming they win. Wisconsin might get there as well with Marquette and Georgetown losing. IU had an outside shot if they could have went further, but that chance is gone.

 

If it makes you feel better, you're our highest 3 right now. Though you'll probably drop a couple spots.

 

(Edited embarrassing typo)

Edited March 9, 2012 by SouthSideRyan

[rawaction]

How about a bracket with?

 

IU- 4 seed

Xavier/Detroit- teams with IU transfers from 4 years ago

Marquette- 5 seed

UNC- 1 seed

[Bruno7481]

I think Michigan is a 3 assuming they win. Wisconsin might get there as well with Marquette and Georgetown losing. IU had an outside shot if they could have went further, but that chance is gone.

 

If it makes you feel better, you're are highest 3 right now. Though you'll probably drop a couple spots.

 

IU? Or Michigan?

 

According to what? I wouldn't consider them a 3.

[UMFan83]

I think Michigan is a 3 assuming they win. Wisconsin might get there as well with Marquette and Georgetown losing. IU had an outside shot if they could have went further, but that chance is gone.

I could see one of Marquette/Georgetown dropping to a 4, but I feel like Wisconsin has to beat MSU to really make that likely.

 

Georgetown is only 7-5 in their last 12 games, whose losses include Pittsburgh, Seton Hall and Cincinnati. Their only good wins over that time period are UConn and Notre Dame. They havent beaten a top 30 RPI team since January 4th, although they have beat 3 in the 30-50 range since then. I know we're looking at the resume as a whole and the NCAA doesnt consider 'last 10 games', but Georgetown really hasn't played like a 3 seed for some time IMO. But to their credit, they are 8-4 against the top 50 and very few teams can match that, so basically I just talked myself in a circle.

[UMFan83]

I think Michigan is a 3 assuming they win. Wisconsin might get there as well with Marquette and Georgetown losing. IU had an outside shot if they could have went further, but that chance is gone.

 

If it makes you feel better, you're are highest 3 right now. Though you'll probably drop a couple spots.

 

IU? Or Michigan?

 

According to what? I wouldn't consider them a 3.

 

According to the NSBB created bracket.

[Smack]

Oh well. Look forward to Sunday night and see how things shake out. I think Indiana will be a 4 and I don't think the NCAA will be able to resist putting them in UNC's bracket. No guarantee they would make to the S16 though.

You might be in with Marquette too. Although they might like battling brothers more than coach vs. old school.

 

If a IU/UNC matchup does take place, I wonder if the parents would appreciate that they just have to go to one location, or be really pissed off.

Probably unhappy. That's a [expletive] spot to put them in.

 

They could wear those crappy jerseys split down the middle, half IU half UNC.

[NeifiIsMyHomeBoy]

I thought there would be far more revelry. Thank god he's gone for ever. Great guy, but the pressure got to him. If we hire Reggie Theus, I'll puke. I'll take Shaka with a side of Snacks for a total program makeover please.

[XZero771679666304]

I thought there would be far more revelry. Thank god he's gone for ever. Great guy, but the pressure got to him. If we hire Reggie Theus, I'll puke. I'll take Shaka with a side of Snacks for a total program makeover please.

 

I don't think makeover is quite the right word. If Howard stays (I like the move making him interim head coach), I don't see much roster upheaval coming. Obviously Jerrance is key to keeping the players/commits we have now, much more than Bruce was. Keep him and make a good hire and I don't see any real program "downtime" (outside of this year). Even if we just lose Leonard I think the team can snag a tourney berth next year, given the aforementioned things happen.

 

As for the revelry, it's a positive move but like I said earlier, it's not without it's downside. Weber is a really, really good guy and it's a damn shame he wasn't a better coach. He is a very honest, genuine guy.

Edited March 9, 2012 by XZero77

[hawkeyecub]

 

Considering the state of the program when he took over, things are pretty damn encouraging on the floor and the recruiting trail.

Remember when Alford beat UCONN and had a ton of talent coming?

 

Yes and I, like everyone else was pumped. We were leading the league in late January and 17-3 before Recker got hurt in '01. Preseason top 10-15 in '02 and then the wheels fell off. In hindsight, Alford was 36 with a shitty ass coaching staff and limited experience. When he finally got wise and made some coaching changes, things improved a bit.

 

I'm much more confident in Fran's coaching ability, staff and player development and he's shown he has an eye for under-recruited talent. He's done it at multiple programs and built from garbage each time. We aren't expecting to be a contender in the B1G consistently, but at least a middle of the pack type program with the occasional Sweet 16 run or top 3 Big Ten finish.

[Bruno7481]

Did you guys know it was Dan Dakich's fault IU lost today? I'm exaggerating, but lots of "fans" didn't like some of his comments. My god people, get over it. I don't even remember him saying anything that bad.

 

I guess I am just way too rational.

[SouthSideRyan]

Did you guys know it was Dan Dakich's fault IU lost today? I'm exaggerating, but lots of "fans" didn't like some of his comments. My god people, get over it. I don't even remember him saying anything that bad.

 

I guess I am just way too rational.

 

HE'S RUNNING OFF THE ENTIRE TEAM TO FEED HIS EGO!!!

[NeifiIsMyHomeBoy]

I thought there would be far more revelry. Thank god he's gone for ever. Great guy, but the pressure got to him. If we hire Reggie Theus, I'll puke. I'll take Shaka with a side of Snacks for a total program makeover please.

 

I think makeover is quite the right word. If Howard stays (I like the move making him interim head coach), I don't see much roster upheaval coming. Obviously Jerrance is key to keeping the players/commits we have now, much more than Bruce was. Keep him and make a good hire and I don't see any real program "downtime" (outside of this year). Even if we just lose Leonard I think the team can snag a tourney berth next year, given the aforementioned things happen.

 

As for the revelry, it's a positive move but like I said earlier, it's not without it's downside. Weber is a really, really good guy and it's a damn shame he wasn't a better coach. He is a very honest, genuine guy.

 

I agree with everything you've said. I gave some thought to the idea of dumping Jerrance, but I think we need to keep him on staff for the reasons you mentioned. These young guys will need some continuity, and I think getting Jerrance to buy into the next coach will be key.

 

There's just been so much negativity hanging over the program, going back to the infamous car crash, that I don't think we ever got our feet back underneath us. Every program has its problems, but I think when the decision was made to keep Smith around, we really lost our way and put talent ahead of developing a culture of teamwork and accountability.

[Bruno7481]

I think Dakich at times can be overly critical of IU, but he's in a tough spot. Probably trying not to come off as a homer. I think he does a decent job on air.

[illiniguy]

I thought there would be far more revelry. Thank god he's gone for ever. Great guy, but the pressure got to him. If we hire Reggie Theus, I'll puke. I'll take Shaka with a side of Snacks for a total program makeover please.

 

I think makeover is quite the right word. If Howard stays (I like the move making him interim head coach), I don't see much roster upheaval coming. Obviously Jerrance is key to keeping the players/commits we have now, much more than Bruce was. Keep him and make a good hire and I don't see any real program "downtime" (outside of this year). Even if we just lose Leonard I think the team can snag a tourney berth next year, given the aforementioned things happen.

 

As for the revelry, it's a positive move but like I said earlier, it's not without it's downside. Weber is a really, really good guy and it's a damn shame he wasn't a better coach. He is a very honest, genuine guy.

 

I agree with everything you've said. I gave some thought to the idea of dumping Jerrance, but I think we need to keep him on staff for the reasons you mentioned. These young guys will need some continuity, and I think getting Jerrance to buy into the next coach will be key.

 

There's just been so much negativity hanging over the program, going back to the infamous car crash, that I don't think we ever got our feet back underneath us. Every program has its problems, but I think when the decision was made to keep Smith around, we really lost our way and put talent ahead of developing a culture of teamwork and accountability.

You don't dump Jerrance. If the next coach doesn't want him then he can dump him. But, I'm thinking any coach is gonna want a recruiter that Cal wanted on his staff.

Edited March 9, 2012 by illiniguy

[illiniguy]

I think Dakich at times can be overly critical of IU, but he's in a tough spot. Probably trying not to come off as a homer. I think he does a decent job on air.

Yep, he's like Bardo doing Illinois games. He really is in a no win spot.

[XZero771679666304]

I thought there would be far more revelry. Thank god he's gone for ever. Great guy, but the pressure got to him. If we hire Reggie Theus, I'll puke. I'll take Shaka with a side of Snacks for a total program makeover please.

 

I think makeover is quite the right word. If Howard stays (I like the move making him interim head coach), I don't see much roster upheaval coming. Obviously Jerrance is key to keeping the players/commits we have now, much more than Bruce was. Keep him and make a good hire and I don't see any real program "downtime" (outside of this year). Even if we just lose Leonard I think the team can snag a tourney berth next year, given the aforementioned things happen.

 

As for the revelry, it's a positive move but like I said earlier, it's not without it's downside. Weber is a really, really good guy and it's a damn shame he wasn't a better coach. He is a very honest, genuine guy.

 

I agree with everything you've said. I gave some thought to the idea of dumping Jerrance, but I think we need to keep him on staff for the reasons you mentioned. These young guys will need some continuity, and I think getting Jerrance to buy into the next coach will be key.

 

There's just been so much negativity hanging over the program, going back to the infamous car crash, that I don't think we ever got our feet back underneath us. Every program has its problems, but I think when the decision was made to keep Smith around, we really lost our way and put talent ahead of developing a culture of teamwork and accountability.

You don't dumb Jerrance. If the next coach doesn't want him then he can dump him. But, I'm thinking any coach is gonna want a recruiter that Cal wanted on his staff.

 

Especially considering how important being able to recruit Chicago is. Keeping Jerrance is not only preserving current players, but saving a lot of work in the future trying to build inroads in Chicago (and Peoria, for that matter).

Edited March 9, 2012 by XZero77

[CubColtPacer]

I think Dakich at times can be overly critical of IU, but he's in a tough spot. Probably trying not to come off as a homer. I think he does a decent job on air.

 

He certainly couldn't have been mistaken for an IU homer today, that's for sure. But I don't mind anything he said either. The main things I want out of an announcer are to come prepared, not spout off conventional strategies with no awareness of time/score (like the thousands of times you hear an announcer say that a team has to go for 2 down 5 with 10-15 seconds left), and not repeat the same opinion over and over again. Dakich has his opinions on things, some of which I agree with and some of which I don't. But I know his opinions are not coming out of left field, and I think he's a good announcer.

 

I am a little surprised it wasn't mentioned here though when he said that Big 10 refs don't like to call fouls on Zeller :-)

[illiniguy]

I think Dakich at times can be overly critical of IU, but he's in a tough spot. Probably trying not to come off as a homer. I think he does a decent job on air.

 

He certainly couldn't have been mistaken for an IU homer today, that's for sure. But I don't mind anything he said either. The main things I want out of an announcer are to come prepared, not spout off conventional strategies with no awareness of time/score (like the thousands of times you hear an announcer say that a team has to go for 2 down 5 with 10-15 seconds left), and not repeat the same opinion over and over again. Dakich has his opinions on things, some of which I agree with and some of which I don't. But I know his opinions are not coming out of left field, and I think he's a good announcer.

 

I am a little surprised it wasn't mentioned here though when he said that Big 10 refs don't like to call fouls on Zeller :-)

What's the point in saying it? We all see it, we've all talked about it and you IU fans have all said we are crazy.

[Magnetic Curses]

wow, that statement by weber was absolutely heartbreaking. i think he loved to coach illinois a little too much.