2011 College Football Offseason

[shnsajax]

Also if there is a Conference game on the LHN, it will have to pay up to the Conference or the schools being shown. That was never negotiated in the deal, its just an assumption on ESPN's part that they will be able to strike a deal. Also a bad assumption.

 

On the high school games being shown this is a precedent that the NCAA will have to set later this month. They are already being shown on national and local networks. If they show rebroadcast games that were already shown on ESPNU or whatever network before being re-aired later on the LHN does it really matter. Should the LHN be allowed exclusive rights to a game then yeah I could see where that would be a concern. My guess is that the games will be allowed to be shown as long as a certain criteria is met. Also Texas is not the only school that will benefit from these potential broadcasts.

 

Given the way Texas recruits today, its not going to benefit them much at all if any. I really could careless about being able to watch HS games on it.

[shnsajax]

Watching The Michigan-Ohio State Rivalry documentary on HBO is a lot more fun now.

[Old Style]

So the Big 12 AD's met today and there will be a moratorium on HS games on the LHN for at least a year.

[snoodmonger]

is a precedent that the NCAA will have to set later this month. They are already being shown on national and local networks. If they show rebroadcast games that were already shown on ESPNU or whatever network before being re-aired later on the LHN does it really matter?

 

In my mind it does. It's one thing to be broadcast on a supposedly neutral ESPN or local channel. It's another to be broadcast on a network branded with only one team. That goes for original broadcasts or rebroadcasts.

 

Also Texas is not the only school that will benefit from these potential broadcasts.

 

How do other schools benefit from the Longhorn Network airing games with players they're recruiting? I don't see a lot of benefit for anyone besides UT, though I could be missing something.

 

Given the way Texas recruits today, its not going to benefit them much at all if any. I really could careless about being able to watch HS games on it.

 

To some degree, you're right. Texas's recruiting can't get that much better. Schools like KU/ISU/KSU/MU, etc, probably weren't gonna take any recruits UT really wanted. (ETA: that doesn't mean it's okay to make the uphill climb even more impossible.) And schools like OU and, to a lesser degree, aTm, DO go head-to-head with UT for players, and any extra leg up for UT is unfair.

Edited August 2, 2011 by snoodmonger

[Tracer Bullet]

Also if there is a Conference game on the LHN, it will have to pay up to the Conference or the schools being shown. That was never negotiated in the deal, its just an assumption on ESPN's part that they will be able to strike a deal. Also a bad assumption.

 

On the high school games being shown this is a precedent that the NCAA will have to set later this month. They are already being shown on national and local networks. If they show rebroadcast games that were already shown on ESPNU or whatever network before being re-aired later on the LHN does it really matter. Should the LHN be allowed exclusive rights to a game then yeah I could see where that would be a concern. My guess is that the games will be allowed to be shown as long as a certain criteria is met. Also Texas is not the only school that will benefit from these potential broadcasts.

 

Given the way Texas recruits today, its not going to benefit them much at all if any. I really could careless about being able to watch HS games on it.

 

I know Texas generally views Texas HS kids as their property to accept or reject as the school sees fit but that's bot quite the way it works nor should it. As Snood pointed out, there are a couple schools that go head to head with Texas and there are other schools that do so less regularly than ou or atm. Yet one of your justifications is that it doesn't given Texas much of an advantage. Any additional advantage is unfair, you understand that, right? Or you'd be ok with every other school getting a few more days of allowed contact with recruits or 1 more in-house visit with recruits than Texas. I mean, that's not much of an advantage.

[shnsajax]

Also if there is a Conference game on the LHN, it will have to pay up to the Conference or the schools being shown. That was never negotiated in the deal, its just an assumption on ESPN's part that they will be able to strike a deal. Also a bad assumption.

 

On the high school games being shown this is a precedent that the NCAA will have to set later this month. They are already being shown on national and local networks. If they show rebroadcast games that were already shown on ESPNU or whatever network before being re-aired later on the LHN does it really matter. Should the LHN be allowed exclusive rights to a game then yeah I could see where that would be a concern. My guess is that the games will be allowed to be shown as long as a certain criteria is met. Also Texas is not the only school that will benefit from these potential broadcasts.

 

Given the way Texas recruits today, its not going to benefit them much at all if any. I really could careless about being able to watch HS games on it.

 

I know Texas generally views Texas HS kids as their property to accept or reject as the school sees fit but that's bot quite the way it works nor should it. As Snood pointed out, there are a couple schools that go head to head with Texas and there are other schools that do so less regularly than ou or atm. Yet one of your justifications is that it doesn't given Texas much of an advantage. Any additional advantage is unfair, you understand that, right? Or you'd be ok with every other school getting a few more days of allowed contact with recruits or 1 more in-house visit with recruits than Texas. I mean, that's not much of an advantage.

 

My main point revolves around Texas pretty much having their class wrapped up before students even begin their senior season. Texas offers roughly 35 scholarships a year where every other school in the Big12-2 is offering around 100. Like I had said before I really could careless about showing games on the LHN and think this is more of an ESPN push to fill up additional programming. Showing games on the LHN is not going to be limited to UT, it is another tool that all coaches will be able to use to evaluate players. I understand that there could be an additional advantage towards UT, but every other school could also benefit from it should they choose to use it to there advantage. Again I don't care about showing high school games on the network so its really not an issue to me. Should Texas be telling ESPN which games or players to show on the network then even I would have a problem with it.

[SouthSideRyan]

My main point revolves around Texas pretty much having their class wrapped up before students even begin their senior season. Texas offers roughly 35 scholarships a year where every other school in the Big12-2 is offering around 100. Like I had said before I really could careless about showing games on the LHN and think this is more of an ESPN push to fill up additional programming. Showing games on the LHN is not going to be limited to UT, it is another tool that all coaches will be able to use to evaluate players. I understand that there could be an additional advantage towards UT, but every other school could also benefit from it should they choose to use it to there advantage. Again I don't care about showing high school games on the network so its really not an issue to me. Should Texas be telling ESPN which games or players to show on the network then even I would have a problem with it.

 

You think other school's coaches wouldn't have access to these games without the Longhorn Network?

[E.J.]

Michael Floyd has been reinstated. Looks like he'll be missing 0 games and 0 fall practices.

[Old Style]

Should Texas be telling ESPN which games or players to show on the network then even I would have a problem with it.

It's the [expletive] Longhorn Network. Of course they will be telling ESPN which HS games to show.

[Guest]

Even if they didn’t literally tell ESPN what games to show, they implicitly would because ESPN is going to want to show Texas commits and targets because that’s what the subscribers want to see. Will there be a massive advantage for UT? No. But the precedent and inequality is enough to put it down. Would Texas fans be okay with Mike Sherman and Bob Stoops being able to contact recruits for an extra day or two after everyone else is not allowed? It wouldn’t really make much of a difference, but people would rightly be up in arms about it.

[Andy]

Michael Floyd has been reinstated. Looks like he'll be missing 0 games and 0 fall practices.

He was basically suspended for a semester just like Kyle McAlarney was, but McAlarney was dumb enough to let his violation occur during his athletic season.

[Guest]

1. Oklahoma

2. Alabama

3. Oregon

4. LSU

5. Florida State

6. Stanford

7. Boise State

8. Oklahoma State

9. Texas A&M

10. Wisconsin

11. Nebraska

12. South Carolina

13. Virginia Tech

14. Arkansas

15. TCU

16. Ohio State

17. Michigan State

18. Notre Dame

19. Auburn

20. Mississippi State

21. Mizzou

22. Georgia

23. Florida

24. Texas

25. Penn State

 

Just missed: Arizona State, West Virginia

 

 

I know someone has to go in these spots, but quite a few of the names shocked me that they were as high as they are.

[shnsajax]

Oregon at LSU in week 1 at Cowboys Stadium

Oklahoma at FSU in week 3

 

These rankings will be changing very fast this year.

[Derwood]

I'm surprised South Carolina is that low when many people are predicting them to make the SEC title game

[apete6]

I'm surprised South Carolina is that low when many people are predicting them to make the SEC title game

 

The SEC East sucks this year, though. As it did last year when the Gamecocks made the title game. Urban Meyer quitting has helped the Old Ballcoach out quite a bit.

[Old Style]

A&M gets Oklahoma State at home in game 3 and plays Arkansas at Jerryworld the following week. We'll see fairly quick if they are indeed a top 10 team. Win those and it could set up a monster game 11/5 at OU.

[Warpticon]

1. Oklahoma

2. Alabama

3. Oregon

4. LSU

5. Florida State

6. Stanford

7. Boise State

8. Oklahoma State

9. Texas A&M

10. Wisconsin

11. Nebraska

12. South Carolina

13. Virginia Tech

14. Arkansas

15. TCU

16. Ohio State

17. Michigan State

18. Notre Dame

19. Auburn

20. Mississippi State

21. Mizzou

22. Georgia

23. Florida

24. Texas

25. Penn State

 

Just missed: Arizona State, West Virginia

 

 

I know someone has to go in these spots, but quite a few of the names shocked me that they were as high as they are.

 

For me, it's Florida State @ 5, Nebraska @ 11, Auburn at 19 (ahead of Mississippi State, even) that I don't get.

[javy knows my name]

1. Oklahoma

2. Alabama

3. Oregon

4. LSU

5. Florida State

6. Stanford

7. Boise State

8. Oklahoma State

9. Texas A&M

10. Wisconsin

11. Nebraska

12. South Carolina

13. Virginia Tech

14. Arkansas

15. TCU

16. Ohio State

17. Michigan State

18. Notre Dame

19. Auburn

20. Mississippi State

21. Mizzou

22. Georgia

23. Florida

24. Texas

25. Penn State

 

Just missed: Arizona State, West Virginia

 

 

I know someone has to go in these spots, but quite a few of the names shocked me that they were as high as they are.

 

For me, it's Florida State @ 5, Nebraska @ 11, Auburn at 19 (ahead of Mississippi State, even) that I don't get.

 

I get Nebraska there. With you on the other two. Why is OSU even in the top 25?

[Derwood]

OSU is in the top 25 because they still have the most talented roster in the Big 10 (outside of maybe Nebraska)?

[javy knows my name]

OSU is in the top 25 because they still have the most talented roster in the Big 10 (outside of maybe Nebraska)?

 

Who is their QB and wouldn't they have lost a bunch of commits when Tressel left?

[Old Style]

OSU is in the top 25 because they still have the most talented roster in the Big 10 (outside of maybe Nebraska)?

 

Who is their QB and wouldn't they have lost a bunch of commits when Tressel left?

Not sure on the QB, but how many true freshman make that big of an impact? This may be their last pre-season top 25 for a while, though.

[shnsajax]

OSU is in the top 25 because they still have the most talented roster in the Big 10 (outside of maybe Nebraska)?

 

Who is their QB and wouldn't they have lost a bunch of commits when Tressel left?

 

Signing Day had already passed when Tressel quit, and those kids where fully aware of the situation when they signed. They will take a hit with this years class though. They need a top 5 nationally defense to not be a 4 loss team this year.

[E.J.]

OSU's QB will either be a crappy 5th year senior or 4-star freshman (#1 dual-threat QB last year) Braxton Miller. Either way, they are going to have some trouble on offense. Their defense will be stellar though.

[NCCubFan]

LSU assistant coach Steve Kragthorpe has Parkinson's Disease. He is relinquishing his duties as offensive coordinator but will remain as quarterbacks coach.

[NCCubFan]

After firing Butch Davis UNC's chancellor himself committed a secondary NCAA violation. He has publicly expressed displeasure that Davis offered a scholarship to his son, who will be a HS senior QB this fall. Oops; that's publicly commenting on recruiting, which is a no-no.