College Basketball 2010-11

[snoodmonger]

Not surprising that I think the game was called like crap in the first half (when you could murder a guy down low without consequence, but any contact with guards was instantly whistled.) Refs were a big part of why it was even a game at half.

 

Missouri got plenty of calls in that game. They had 35 FT attempts to KU's 28. And keep in mind, 8 of KUs 28 came in the last minute, when MU was putting us on the line on purpose.

 

For a team that shot 23 3-pointers, 35 FT attempts seems like an awful lot to me. It's certainly not a number you can look at and go, "The refs were out to get us!"

 

As for eb's theory that KU gets some kind of special protection on the road, whatever helps you sleep at night, dude. But I love how in KU's case it's clearly some kind of BS conspiracy, whereas with the other two teams who get similar foul treatment, everything is on the up-and-up.

[snoodmonger]

Apparently CBS took away the Mizzou/Kansas game in Columbia and Kansas City/Lawrence at the 6 minute mark and didn't bring it back, even after Mizzou cut the lead to 4. Some poor guys are gonna have to answer angry phone calls for hours about that one.

 

Did you see CBS's explanation:

 

CBS says sunspots, satellite issues caused TV switch. An unfortunate combination of natural and technical issues forced CBS to provide viewers in Kansas, Missouri and Oklahoma areas with a telecast feed other than end of the Kansas-Missouri game.

 

With less than four minutes to go, viewers in those three states were switched from the Jayhawks-Tigers to the Michigan-Michigan State game. (Viewers in New York City were switched from Kansas-Missouri to Oregon-Arizona.)

 

"It was a combination of sun spots and satellite transponder issues," CBS Sports spokes person Jerry Caraccioli said Saturday afternoon. "The Kansas-Missouri telecast was interrupted and we had to switch viewers in some of those markets to the other telecast. Some markets had their satellite feeds restored before the end of the game.

 

"It was an unfortunate and rare occurrence."

 

Curious that those sun spots happened in perfect timing with the tip-off for the Arizona/Oregon and MSU/MU games. How fortuitous!

[bcl412]

Would Iowa beating Purdue be the biggest upset of the year? I haven't followed non-Iowa college basketball that closely this year.

[bukie]

Would Iowa beating Purdue be the biggest upset of the year? I haven't followed non-Iowa college basketball that closely this year.

In the Big Ten? Sure. In college basketball? Not even close. Iowa is a top-25% team in college basketball.

[bcl412]

Make these Gatens.

[Flames24Rulz]

lol Purdue

[Smack]

Pathetic display by Purdue today. Jesus Christ. Congrats on 10th place Iowa. At least this puts the Hoosiers at dead last in the league.

[bcl412]

I feel like Iowa just won the Big 10.

[bukie]

Up to the minute Big Ten tourney standings:

1. Ohio State

2/3. Purdue/Wisconsin

4/5. Illinois/Michigan

6/7. Michigan State/Penn State

8/9. Northwestern/Minnesota

10. Iowa

11. Indiana

[Sosa21MVP]

Pathetic display by Purdue today. Jesus Christ. Congrats on 10th place Iowa. At least this puts the Hoosiers at dead last in the league.

 

Boiler down! :P

[Smack]

Pathetic display by Purdue today. Jesus Christ. Congrats on 10th place Iowa. At least this puts the Hoosiers at dead last in the league.

 

Boiler down! :P

 

Probably drops Purdue to a #3 seed. Oh well. That's what happens when you come out flat and emotionless.

[Smack]

Pathetic display by Purdue today. Jesus Christ. Congrats on 10th place Iowa. At least this puts the Hoosiers at dead last in the league.

 

Boiler down! :P

 

Probably drops Purdue to a #3 seed. Oh well. That's what happens when you come out flat and emotionless.

 

Likely cost JJ a shot at POY and Painter a shot at COY as well (nationally and in the B10).

[Magnetic Curses]

matt painter reminds me of baron harkonnen from dune

[Sammys Boombox]

Apparently CBS took away the Mizzou/Kansas game in Columbia and Kansas City/Lawrence at the 6 minute mark and didn't bring it back, even after Mizzou cut the lead to 4. Some poor guys are gonna have to answer angry phone calls for hours about that one.

 

 

Mizzou did not get Kansas' A-game, and really blew their chance to get a big win. Ratliffe and English have regressed so far in just a couple weeks that it's staggering. Hopefully they can beat the 11/12 seed and seeing the ball go in the basket a few times will get them out of their shooting funk and they can win more than one game this week.

 

As for the officiating, it didn't really make much difference. I thought it was pretty good through the first 25 minutes or so, then the officials spent about 8 minutes shafting Mizzou, and then tried to make up for it with the last 8 minutes. I was yelling for the fans to shut up about that alley-oop because nothing remotely dirty or a foul happened, but I can understand why they were upset since Mizzou had been called for 11 fouls in 10 minutes of the second half.

 

I agree, the oop play was not a foul. I think the fact that the fans were so angry about that play shows that they were frustrated with all the other calls occurring during that stretch of time. Which you also stated. Also, nearly all the questionable calls were made by one official, which really sets a crowd off.

 

However, I do think that horrible stretch of officiating made a difference because that stretch of time is where Kansas really spread their lead out and it forced Mizzou to play catch up basketball. Again, it is very hard to say that it would have changed the outcome because nobody could know that. Mizzou could have gone up 8-10 points in that stretch instead of going down 13 and still could have lost the game. Everything would have been changed. But, the period with the horrible officiating is also the period where the game got away from Mizzou.

 

I disagree the officials tried to make up for it in the last 8 minutes. But, we can agree to disagree.

 

By the way, foul number 5 on Ratliffe was possibly one of the worst foul calls I have ever seen. Not that it means anything, but I'm not even sure Reed was attempting a shot on that play (obviously it went in so it counts as a shooting foul) but was attempting an oop.

 

As I was at the game, I would be curious to know if the announcers made any comments about the officials.

[Sammys Boombox]

Not surprising that I think the game was called like crap in the first half (when you could murder a guy down low without consequence, but any contact with guards was instantly whistled.) Refs were a big part of why it was even a game at half.

 

Missouri got plenty of calls in that game. They had 35 FT attempts to KU's 28. And keep in mind, 8 of KUs 28 came in the last minute, when MU was putting us on the line on purpose.

 

For a team that shot 23 3-pointers, 35 FT attempts seems like an awful lot to me. It's certainly not a number you can look at and go, "The refs were out to get us!"

 

As for eb's theory that KU gets some kind of special protection on the road, whatever helps you sleep at night, dude. But I love how in KU's case it's clearly some kind of BS conspiracy, whereas with the other two teams who get similar foul treatment, everything is on the up-and-up.

 

Conspiracy theory? No. Star treatment? Yes. It happens in college sports. Don't deny it. I clearly said that I don't watch enough A&M games to comment on them. I guess that means I think they're on the up-and-up. That leaves ISU (of which I don't watch many games either). But, I do know that most of their games are over at half, home or away. There are going to be less fouls in general in the second half of games like that. As to why they have less on the road instead of home? I don't know. Anomaly? They are so far out of it on the road that they aren't fouling at the end of the game? I could also care less. I don't watch them get ridiculous amounts of bad calls go their way in close games.

 

As for sleeping at night, I can assure you that kU/Mizzou basketball has not cost me one moment of sleep, ever. The Cubs and Packers are so much more important to me.

[SouthSideRyan]

Pathetic display by Purdue today. Jesus Christ. Congrats on 10th place Iowa. At least this puts the Hoosiers at dead last in the league.

 

They already locked up last place because Iowa swept them.

[hawkeyecub]

That was awesome. They've been in that position a handful of times this year but haven't been able to close it out, today they finally did. Good for Fran and good for Jarryd Cole. He deserved something like that in his final home game. He wasn't a great player but he just got [expletive] on during his entire career with injuries and coaching bs. He set the tone and made huge clutch plays. Iowa just out-worked Purdue for the most part.

 

At least Iowa and Illinois fans can agree on hating those [expletive] Indiana schools. Seriously [expletive] those guys. Purdue could have been called for 20 fouls in the first half because they're all over you every play. LewJack bumps and rides the entire way down the court then is shocked when it finally gets called. I like Moore and Johnson but Painter just breeds a program with the utmost level of douche involved. Stop [expletive] crying about every call and realize you foul non-stop you goons.

[kujay]

As I was at the game, I would be curious to know if the announcers made any comments about the officials.

 

I caught just a couple minutes of the KU radio feed late in the game, and they are carping about how horrible and inconsistent the officiating had been the entire game.

[illiniguy]

Not surprising that I think the game was called like crap in the first half (when you could murder a guy down low without consequence, but any contact with guards was instantly whistled.) Refs were a big part of why it was even a game at half.

 

Missouri got plenty of calls in that game. They had 35 FT attempts to KU's 28. And keep in mind, 8 of KUs 28 came in the last minute, when MU was putting us on the line on purpose.

 

For a team that shot 23 3-pointers, 35 FT attempts seems like an awful lot to me. It's certainly not a number you can look at and go, "The refs were out to get us!"

 

As for eb's theory that KU gets some kind of special protection on the road, whatever helps you sleep at night, dude. But I love how in KU's case it's clearly some kind of BS conspiracy, whereas with the other two teams who get similar foul treatment, everything is on the up-and-up.

 

Conspiracy theory? No. Star treatment? Yes. It happens in college sports. Don't deny it. I clearly said that I don't watch enough A&M games to comment on them. I guess that means I think they're on the up-and-up. That leaves ISU (of which I don't watch many games either). But, I do know that most of their games are over at half, home or away. There are going to be less fouls in general in the second half of games like that. As to why they have less on the road instead of home? I don't know. Anomaly? They are so far out of it on the road that they aren't fouling at the end of the game? I could also care less. I don't watch them get ridiculous amounts of bad calls go their way in close games.

 

As for sleeping at night, I can assure you that kU/Mizzou basketball has not cost me one moment of sleep, ever. The Cubs and Packers are so much more important to me.

I can sleep at night, but just putting out there I consider the Big 12 to be like the conference that Gonzaga is in. There is no way that one team should win it every freaking year. Kentucky, Duke, UNC, Michigan State, or UCLA don't do that in their conferences and most of them have been as good over the last 10 years as Kansas.

[snoodmonger]

Not surprising that I think the game was called like crap in the first half (when you could murder a guy down low without consequence, but any contact with guards was instantly whistled.) Refs were a big part of why it was even a game at half.

 

Missouri got plenty of calls in that game. They had 35 FT attempts to KU's 28. And keep in mind, 8 of KUs 28 came in the last minute, when MU was putting us on the line on purpose.

 

For a team that shot 23 3-pointers, 35 FT attempts seems like an awful lot to me. It's certainly not a number you can look at and go, "The refs were out to get us!"

 

As for eb's theory that KU gets some kind of special protection on the road, whatever helps you sleep at night, dude. But I love how in KU's case it's clearly some kind of BS conspiracy, whereas with the other two teams who get similar foul treatment, everything is on the up-and-up.

 

Conspiracy theory? No. Star treatment? Yes. It happens in college sports. Don't deny it. I clearly said that I don't watch enough A&M games to comment on them. I guess that means I think they're on the up-and-up. That leaves ISU (of which I don't watch many games either). But, I do know that most of their games are over at half, home or away. There are going to be less fouls in general in the second half of games like that. As to why they have less on the road instead of home? I don't know. Anomaly? They are so far out of it on the road that they aren't fouling at the end of the game? I could also care less. I don't watch them get ridiculous amounts of bad calls go their way in close games.

 

As for sleeping at night, I can assure you that kU/Mizzou basketball has not cost me one moment of sleep, ever. The Cubs and Packers are so much more important to me.

 

here's what i think. it's a wild theory. I think we won that game because we're a lot better than you. And because we don't run a junk system built to overwhelm inferior opponents. And because we have a dominant frontcourt, and your bigs are weak aside from Bowers, who should get way more touches. Our third best big had 15 points and 14 rebounds. In 17 minutes.

 

I think we play are more organized offensive system that forces teams to play defense. And since those teams usually have inferior players, they tend to foul more because they're not being bailed out by bad shots. Likewise, we play better team defense, and thus tend to foul less. Meanwhile your guys were going one-on-one and tossing up crazy shots.

 

I also think we won because, when your team was open, they still couldn't hit shots. You shot under 30%.

 

I thought the reffing overall was terrible. It was inconsistent. And it prevented the game from having any flow. And it was the only reason you were in the game, aside from miserable ball security from KU.

[snoodmonger]

Not surprising that I think the game was called like crap in the first half (when you could murder a guy down low without consequence, but any contact with guards was instantly whistled.) Refs were a big part of why it was even a game at half.

 

Missouri got plenty of calls in that game. They had 35 FT attempts to KU's 28. And keep in mind, 8 of KUs 28 came in the last minute, when MU was putting us on the line on purpose.

 

For a team that shot 23 3-pointers, 35 FT attempts seems like an awful lot to me. It's certainly not a number you can look at and go, "The refs were out to get us!"

 

As for eb's theory that KU gets some kind of special protection on the road, whatever helps you sleep at night, dude. But I love how in KU's case it's clearly some kind of BS conspiracy, whereas with the other two teams who get similar foul treatment, everything is on the up-and-up.

 

Conspiracy theory? No. Star treatment? Yes. It happens in college sports. Don't deny it. I clearly said that I don't watch enough A&M games to comment on them. I guess that means I think they're on the up-and-up. That leaves ISU (of which I don't watch many games either). But, I do know that most of their games are over at half, home or away. There are going to be less fouls in general in the second half of games like that. As to why they have less on the road instead of home? I don't know. Anomaly? They are so far out of it on the road that they aren't fouling at the end of the game? I could also care less. I don't watch them get ridiculous amounts of bad calls go their way in close games.

 

As for sleeping at night, I can assure you that kU/Mizzou basketball has not cost me one moment of sleep, ever. The Cubs and Packers are so much more important to me.

I can sleep at night, but just putting out there I consider the Big 12 to be like the conference that Gonzaga is in. There is no way that one team should win it every freaking year. Kentucky, Duke, UNC, Michigan State, or UCLA don't do that in their conferences and most of them have been as good over the last 10 years as Kansas.

 

actually, every one of those teams has had bad years over the last seven seasons.

[illiniguy]

Not surprising that I think the game was called like crap in the first half (when you could murder a guy down low without consequence, but any contact with guards was instantly whistled.) Refs were a big part of why it was even a game at half.

 

Missouri got plenty of calls in that game. They had 35 FT attempts to KU's 28. And keep in mind, 8 of KUs 28 came in the last minute, when MU was putting us on the line on purpose.

 

For a team that shot 23 3-pointers, 35 FT attempts seems like an awful lot to me. It's certainly not a number you can look at and go, "The refs were out to get us!"

 

As for eb's theory that KU gets some kind of special protection on the road, whatever helps you sleep at night, dude. But I love how in KU's case it's clearly some kind of BS conspiracy, whereas with the other two teams who get similar foul treatment, everything is on the up-and-up.

 

Conspiracy theory? No. Star treatment? Yes. It happens in college sports. Don't deny it. I clearly said that I don't watch enough A&M games to comment on them. I guess that means I think they're on the up-and-up. That leaves ISU (of which I don't watch many games either). But, I do know that most of their games are over at half, home or away. There are going to be less fouls in general in the second half of games like that. As to why they have less on the road instead of home? I don't know. Anomaly? They are so far out of it on the road that they aren't fouling at the end of the game? I could also care less. I don't watch them get ridiculous amounts of bad calls go their way in close games.

 

As for sleeping at night, I can assure you that kU/Mizzou basketball has not cost me one moment of sleep, ever. The Cubs and Packers are so much more important to me.

I can sleep at night, but just putting out there I consider the Big 12 to be like the conference that Gonzaga is in. There is no way that one team should win it every freaking year. Kentucky, Duke, UNC, Michigan State, or UCLA don't do that in their conferences and most of them have been as good over the last 10 years as Kansas.

 

actually, every one of those teams has had bad years over the last seven seasons.

So they could have not won it all that one time. And when was Duke bad? If they were bad, weren't you then after your National title? Even in your rebuilding years you pimp smack the Big 12. Makes it hard for me to take that conference seriously.

[SouthSideRyan]

Clark Kellogg is no great shakes, but it's so nice to watch a Duke/UNC game without that stupid [expletive] doing color commentary.

[SouthSideRyan]

The Duke commercial just said it's where opposites attract.

 

I didn't know WASPs and WASPs were opposites.

[illiniguy]

The Duke commercial just said it's where opposites attract.

 

I didn't know WASPs and WASPs were opposites.

They meant nerds and awesome basketball players.