NCAA Conference Realignment

[SouthSideRyan]

Heck, why not ask Nebraska, Kentucky or Tennessee? At least they're closer to Big Ten country.

 

Cause Nebraska and Kentucky are shitty schools, and the Big Ten would never allow Pearl to coach in it, and judging by the way things are going probably not Kiffin either.

[SouthSideRyan]

The Notre Dame ship has sailed. They have like 6 years left on their TV contract. Yes, they'd probably make more money in the Big Ten (who has deals with ESPN, ABC and CBS) but I doubt NBC lets them out. Plus, as I've said, they've rejected the league twice already, so [expletive] them.

 

Texas? LOL

No 'probably' about it. ND makes significantly less money as an independent than they would in the Big Tweleven. Jack Swarbrick even said so.

 

when they were in BCS bowls, they had a leg to stand on (not having to share their take) but now that they're turning down the pizza bowl, I'm sure they'd love to have a 1/12th cut of all the big Ten bowl payout

 

But you just told me they'd never accept the offer. My head is spinning, break it down for me in simpler terms D.

[SouthSideRyan]

The Notre Dame ship has sailed. They have like 6 years left on their TV contract. Yes, they'd probably make more money in the Big Ten (who has deals with ESPN, ABC and CBS) but I doubt NBC lets them out. Plus, as I've said, they've rejected the league twice already, so [expletive] them.

 

Texas? LOL

No 'probably' about it. ND makes significantly less money as an independent than they would in the Big Tweleven. Jack Swarbrick even said so.

 

when they were in BCS bowls, they had a leg to stand on (not having to share their take) but now that they're turning down the pizza bowl, I'm sure they'd love to have a 1/12th cut of all the big Ten bowl payout

The previous AD made the genius move of negotiating it so that ND receives about a third of the money they used to when making BCS games but receives about twice as much as it used to when it doesn't.

 

I think ND's decision on whether or not to join the Big Ten would have a lot less to do with football than it would with academics and such. It's supposedly the ND faculty and some of the administration that most wants to join the league for academic benefit (basically the ones that are annoyed that Notre Dame has a notable football program and yet reap financial benefit from said football program), but the alumni and most of the fans are vehemently against it.

 

IIRC, it went to a vote back in '99 and the faculty voted for it, but the athletic department voted against. Texas is in much the same situation, their faculty would love to be apart of the Big Ten, and if they got the right president in there, they'd definitely go for the Big Ten. I know it's weird for OleMiss to think somebody would consider a school's academics rather than the quality of fake [expletive], but they do.

[CubbieBum]

This is one controversial topic. We've had what 2-4 big arguments spanning multiple pages in this thread.

 

Anyways I agree with SSR. Unless we an get ND or some unexpected other big name school I would much, much, much rather stay at 11. Even with ND I'm kind of iffy. One I don't like them so I'm not keen helping them make more money and two if they join Purdue will likely not be able to play them every year in football (nor Michigan, Michigan State) and that would break a very long streak IIRC.

[Outshined_One]

How about UVA? Their athletics are mediocre, but their academic programs are excellent and they'd open up new recruiting/television possibilities.

 

Virginia Tech might be another option, although I'm not sure how their academics compare to Big Ten schools.

[CubbieBum]

How about UVA? Their athletics are mediocre, but their academic programs are excellent and they'd open up new recruiting/television possibilities.

 

Virginia Tech might be another option, although I'm not sure how their academics compare to Big Ten schools.

 

If the Vick boys can go to Va Tech I'd pass on them. I also have an irrational hatred for Va Tech due to Brees-Vick Heisman competing.

[snoodmonger]

Would anyone in the Big 12 care if Missouri left? I think it's the least liked school in the conference. Take them please, Big 10.

 

If they did leave, I doubt you could lure Arkansas out of the SEC. They make way more money there. TCU seems more likely.

[OleMissCub]

Yes. Mizzou to Big 10, TCU to Big XII

[Butterscup1679666578]

Mizzou won't leave the Big 12. Coaches have no desire to leave.

 

Would anyone care if Kansas left? Or Iowa State? Or Texas? No one would really care if anyone left. Playing 1 game a year against a team isn't a big deal to anyone.

[OleMissCub]

Mizzou won't leave the Big 12. Coaches have no desire to leave.

 

Would anyone care if Kansas left? Or Iowa State? Or Texas? No one would really care if anyone left. Playing 1 game a year against a team isn't a big deal to anyone.

 

I think that's an incorrect assumption.

[Warpticon]

How about the Big 14?

So if the Big Ten expands, what would it be named?

 

Don't discount this: the Big 14.

 

Seriously.

 

Multiple Big Ten sources told the Tribune Wednesday that 14 teams, even 16, could be in play as it relates to the Big Ten's potential expansion. "Anything is possible," one source said, beyond the conventional wisdom of simply adding a 12th school.

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-17-big-ten-brite-dec17,0,3820862.story

 

Nice to know they've got Kevin Garnett on top of things.

[hawkeyecub]

Mizzou won't leave the Big 12. Coaches have no desire to leave.

 

Would anyone care if Kansas left? Or Iowa State? Or Texas? No one would really care if anyone left. Playing 1 game a year against a team isn't a big deal to anyone.

 

Coaches at Mizzou will have very little say. It's not like they have a Boeheim or Paterno who can tell that athletic department and president what to do.

[XZero771679666304]

Mizzou won't leave the Big 12. Coaches have no desire to leave.

 

Would anyone care if Kansas left? Or Iowa State? Or Texas? No one would really care if anyone left. Playing 1 game a year against a team isn't a big deal to anyone.

 

Coaches at Mizzou will have very little say. It's not like they have a Boeheim or Paterno who can tell that athletic department and president what to do.

 

I would say that the Mizzou coaches are probably irrelevant as far as this goes. There are only a handful of coaches in all of college sports who could influence a decision like this at all.

[hawkeyecub]

Mizzou won't leave the Big 12. Coaches have no desire to leave.

 

Would anyone care if Kansas left? Or Iowa State? Or Texas? No one would really care if anyone left. Playing 1 game a year against a team isn't a big deal to anyone.

 

Coaches at Mizzou will have very little say. It's not like they have a Boeheim or Paterno who can tell that athletic department and president what to do.

 

I would say that the Mizzou coaches are probably irrelevant as far as this goes. There are only a handful of coaches in all of college sports who could influence a decision like this at all.

 

"The University President, Athletic Director, much of the administration and faculty were all in favor of joining the Big 10. However Gary Pinkel and a couple of our non-revenue coaches put their foot down. A decision that will affect the entire university for generations must be approved by Gary Pinkel."

[Butterscup1679666578]

Mizzou won't leave the Big 12. Coaches have no desire to leave.

 

Would anyone care if Kansas left? Or Iowa State? Or Texas? No one would really care if anyone left. Playing 1 game a year against a team isn't a big deal to anyone.

 

I think that's an incorrect assumption.

 

I don't think so.

[Butterscup1679666578]

And I do think coaches will have a lot of input. Leaving for the Big Ten when your two profitable programs are against it will be a nice, quick way to watch those coaches leave. And when we have nothing but low-level recruits coming in again because we have no pipeline states left, that'll be a nice quick way to secure a bottom of the barrel finish every year in the two major sports. Mizzou won't go anywhere.

[TruffleShuffle]

oh man that would be hilarious if pinkel and anderson just had a temper tantrum and quit because the school left the big xii for another conference.

[Banedon]

Can we all agree that at this point, it's been proven to be a bad idea to name your conference after the number of teams it contains?

[Butterscup1679666578]

oh man that would be hilarious if pinkel and anderson just had a temper tantrum and quit because the school left the big xii for another conference.

 

You'd be hard pressed to find either of them throw a temper tantrum. Wouldn't surprise me to see Pinkel retire earlier than he intended if Mizzou were to move to the Big 10. Anderson would be able to land a job at a major basketball program, and while he may have no interest in it now, I could see him pursuing it more if Mizzou switched.

 

But yes, lolz temper tantrums.

[Exile on Waveland]

CHRIST DERWOOD, I'm talking in the scenario that the Big Ten doesn't need to add a team by tomorrow.

 

Texas flirted with the Big Ten when they went to the Big 12. I guess Iowa floated 800 miles north since then. Texas was bandied about the last time this topic came up(I dunno a couple years ago?)

 

Florida and USC aren't remotely similar situations

 

I'm not certain Florida would dismiss the Big Ten out-of-hand. Maybe. Florida has burgeoning academics and might be interested in the Big Ten jump for that reason. Not that I think that is very likely.

 

Also, I couldn't agree more that the Big Ten should go big or stay home. No reason to add a middling university. Eleven teams -- despite the misnomer -- is fine.

[Derwood]

the good news is that they aren't adding a team tomorrow. They're going to take 12-18 months to evaluate the situation.

 

Also, Pitt men's b-ball coach spoke out against joining the Big Ten, saying that the Big East is the best b-bal conference in the country and he has no desire to leave it

[Exile on Waveland]

the good news is that they aren't adding a team tomorrow. They're going to take 12-18 months to evaluate the situation.

 

Also, Pitt men's b-ball coach spoke out against joining the Big Ten, saying that the Big East is the best b-bal conference in the country and he has no desire to leave it

 

He he . . . too bad Pitt lost by double digits to a lower-tier Big Ten team in Big East territory this year then . . .

[hawkeyecub]

Good article by Mandel on Big Ten expansion:

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/stewart_mandel/12/15/bigten-expansion/index.html

[snoodmonger]

Mizzou won't leave the Big 12. Coaches have no desire to leave.

 

Would anyone care if Kansas left? Or Iowa State? Or Texas? No one would really care if anyone left. Playing 1 game a year against a team isn't a big deal to anyone.

 

I think that's an incorrect assumption.

 

I don't think so.

 

 

Uhhh, yeah it is. If texas left, there would be no Big 12. Every other school is replaceable. Not Texas.

[Andy]

oh man that would be hilarious if pinkel and anderson just had a temper tantrum and quit because the school left the big xii for another conference.

 

You'd be hard pressed to find either of them throw a temper tantrum. Wouldn't surprise me to see Pinkel retire earlier than he intended if Mizzou were to move to the Big 10. Anderson would be able to land a job at a major basketball program, and while he may have no interest in it now, I could see him pursuing it more if Mizzou switched.

 

But yes, lolz temper tantrums.

Why would Anderson leave? The Big Tweleven would be a much better basketball conference than the current Big 12 which you'd think would increase Missouri hoops' potential for big things.