NCAA Conference Realignment

[Jon]

As much as Texas wants to be taken more seriously as an academic institution, they're doing too well right now athletically to make that kind of change.

[OleMissCub]

You make hard runs at Texas and ND, schools that will give you serious market share in cities that matter while being schools that will actually draw attention to your conference.

 

TEXAS? Them and Oklahoma are pretty much the center pieces of the Big XII and plus it wouldn't make any geographical sense anyways. The nearest schools to Texas that are in the Big Ten are literally over 1,000 miles away.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

SSR, there are plenty of reasons to expand, as I've already pointed out. The Big Ten wants to get a marquee game on Championship Saturday. They want to expand the territory of the Big Ten Network. You may not agree with the reasons, but saying "there is no reason to expand" is simply false.

 

And they aren't even going to ask Notre Dame. They've been rejected twice and have no intent of even asking again. It'll be Pitt, Mizzou or Rutgers

 

There is no intelligent reason to expand with the [expletive] options you provided. How bout that?

 

As already stated, nobody gives a [expletive] about Rutgers. The Pittsburgh market is already a part of the BTN (via PSU). That leaves making a short-sighted move of adding Missouri so you can add St. Louis for your cable station? Really?? It's dumb, and it's a short-term cash grab to hurt your potential in the long-term.

 

You make hard runs at Texas and ND, schools that will give you serious market share in cities that matter while being schools that will actually draw attention to your conference. Is anybody outside of the Post-Dispatch going to care about the dynamite acquisition of [expletive] MissourI?

 

If Texas/ND say no then you have 11. Perish the thought of having no championship game! How bout you act like the Pac 10 and schedule up to that last week. Put OSU/UM up against whatever [expletive] the ACC is running out for their title game year after year.

 

What's the downside to expanding? Aside from the opportunity cost of inviting a different, better school that would never ever consider coming to the Big 10.

[TruffleShuffle]

You make hard runs at Texas and ND, schools that will give you serious market share in cities that matter while being schools that will actually draw attention to your conference.

 

TEXAS? Them and Oklahoma are pretty much the center pieces of the Big XII and plus it wouldn't make any geographical sense anyways. The nearest schools to Texas that are in the Big Ten are literally over 1,000 miles away.

 

i would bet my house that at least one of iowa city, bloomington and champaign are less than 1,000 miles from austin.

 

granted they're a long way from there, but i doubt it's quite 1,000.

[Derwood]

if the Big Ten believes that championship game = $$$$, then this will happen

[SouthSideRyan]

You make hard runs at Texas and ND, schools that will give you serious market share in cities that matter while being schools that will actually draw attention to your conference.

 

TEXAS? Them and Oklahoma are pretty much the center pieces of the Big XII and plus it wouldn't make any geographical sense anyways. The nearest schools to Texas that are in the Big Ten are literally over 1,000 miles away.

 

Thanks, I've never seen a map, and don't understand this concept of the Big XII. I said both are likely to turn it down.

[OleMissCub]

You make hard runs at Texas and ND, schools that will give you serious market share in cities that matter while being schools that will actually draw attention to your conference.

 

TEXAS? Them and Oklahoma are pretty much the center pieces of the Big XII and plus it wouldn't make any geographical sense anyways. The nearest schools to Texas that are in the Big Ten are literally over 1,000 miles away.

 

i would bet my house that at least one of iowa city, bloomington and champaign are less than 1,000 miles from austin.

 

granted they're a long way from there, but i doubt it's quite 1,000.

 

Google Maps said they are all just over 1,000 miles. As the bird flies I'm sure they are closer

[OleMissCub]

You make hard runs at Texas and ND, schools that will give you serious market share in cities that matter while being schools that will actually draw attention to your conference.

 

TEXAS? Them and Oklahoma are pretty much the center pieces of the Big XII and plus it wouldn't make any geographical sense anyways. The nearest schools to Texas that are in the Big Ten are literally over 1,000 miles away.

 

Thanks, I've never seen a map, and don't understand this concept of the Big XII. I said both are likely to turn it down.

 

Then why even suggest such an unrealistic possibility?

[SouthSideRyan]

I think the opportunity cost is a big deal, and think you're wrong that ND or Texas would never accept. The landscape is already changing, and unless ND turns around their football program quickly, they're never going to make as much on their tv contract as the Big Ten teams are. Texas is never going to come close to a Big Ten TV contract with the # of slugs that nobody cares about in their conference.

 

If you go another 10 years with 11 teams, what is the harm? The Big Ten has a wide enough reaching fanbase, that the network is going to grown on its own, they don't need quick fixes like adding a team to get a mid-level market on the books.

[SouthSideRyan]

You make hard runs at Texas and ND, schools that will give you serious market share in cities that matter while being schools that will actually draw attention to your conference.

 

TEXAS? Them and Oklahoma are pretty much the center pieces of the Big XII and plus it wouldn't make any geographical sense anyways. The nearest schools to Texas that are in the Big Ten are literally over 1,000 miles away.

 

Thanks, I've never seen a map, and don't understand this concept of the Big XII. I said both are likely to turn it down.

 

Then why even suggest such an unrealistic possibility?

 

Because they're the only ones worth pursuing. Can you [expletive] read?

[OleMissCub]

Because they're the only ones worth pursuing. Can you [expletive] read?

 

I think Florida and USC are worth pursuing too. They are in the same country after all.

[Derwood]

The Notre Dame ship has sailed. They have like 6 years left on their TV contract. Yes, they'd probably make more money in the Big Ten (who has deals with ESPN, ABC and CBS) but I doubt NBC lets them out. Plus, as I've said, they've rejected the league twice already, so [expletive] them.

 

Texas? LOL

[cubsfan]

Because they're the only ones worth pursuing. Can you [expletive] read?

 

I think Florida and USC are worth pursuing too. They are in the same country after all.

Maybe you should do some research into the topic before spouting off. Texas asked to be invited into the Big Ten before they joined the Big XII.

[SouthSideRyan]

CHRIST DERWOOD, I'm talking in the scenario that the Big Ten doesn't need to add a team by tomorrow.

 

Texas flirted with the Big Ten when they went to the Big 12. I guess Iowa floated 800 miles north since then. Texas was bandied about the last time this topic came up(I dunno a couple years ago?)

 

Florida and USC aren't remotely similar situations

[Derwood]

I know Texas was offered several years ago, but they (along with ND) are never going to accept an invite, so I don't see the point in rigorously pursuing them.

[SouthSideRyan]

I know Texas was offered several years ago, but they (along with ND) are never going to accept an invite, so I don't see the point in rigorously pursuing them.

 

You and the Bum been sharing research info?

[OleMissCub]

Because they're the only ones worth pursuing. Can you [expletive] read?

 

I think Florida and USC are worth pursuing too. They are in the same country after all.

Maybe you should do some research into the topic before spouting off. Texas asked to be invited into the Big Ten before they joined the Big XII.

 

I'd imagine that the Big XII didn't exist at the time they tried to get into the Big Ten.

[cubsfan]

Because they're the only ones worth pursuing. Can you [expletive] read?

 

I think Florida and USC are worth pursuing too. They are in the same country after all.

Maybe you should do some research into the topic before spouting off. Texas asked to be invited into the Big Ten before they joined the Big XII.

 

I'd imagine that the Big XII didn't exist at the time they tried to get into the Big Ten.

I believe the point is that they asked to join the Big Ten before they asked to join the Big 8.

[Derwood]

I know Texas was offered several years ago, but they (along with ND) are never going to accept an invite, so I don't see the point in rigorously pursuing them.

 

You and the Bum been sharing research info?

 

I'm basing that on 1/2 a dozen articles I've read in the past 2 days

[OleMissCub]

Because they're the only ones worth pursuing. Can you [expletive] read?

 

I think Florida and USC are worth pursuing too. They are in the same country after all.

Maybe you should do some research into the topic before spouting off. Texas asked to be invited into the Big Ten before they joined the Big XII.

 

I'd imagine that the Big XII didn't exist at the time they tried to get into the Big Ten.

I believe the point is that they asked to join the Big Ten before they asked to join the Big 8.

 

 

But I don't see how that is relevant to the situation NOW. Circumstances were so enormously different back then.

[cubsfan]

I think Florida and USC are worth pursuing too. They are in the same country after all.

Maybe you should do some research into the topic before spouting off. Texas asked to be invited into the Big Ten before they joined the Big XII.

 

I'd imagine that the Big XII didn't exist at the time they tried to get into the Big Ten.

I believe the point is that they asked to join the Big Ten before they asked to join the Big 8.

 

 

But I don't see how that is relevant to the situation NOW. Circumstances were so enormously different back then.

You said the Big Ten trying to get Texas was no different than the Big Ten trying to get Florida or USC. The fact is that there is precedent for Texas wanting to join the Big Ten.

[bukie]

Heck, why not ask Nebraska, Kentucky or Tennessee? At least they're closer to Big Ten country.

[Andy]

The Notre Dame ship has sailed. They have like 6 years left on their TV contract. Yes, they'd probably make more money in the Big Ten (who has deals with ESPN, ABC and CBS) but I doubt NBC lets them out. Plus, as I've said, they've rejected the league twice already, so [expletive] them.

 

Texas? LOL

No 'probably' about it. ND makes significantly less money as an independent than they would in the Big Tweleven. Jack Swarbrick even said so.

[Derwood]

The Notre Dame ship has sailed. They have like 6 years left on their TV contract. Yes, they'd probably make more money in the Big Ten (who has deals with ESPN, ABC and CBS) but I doubt NBC lets them out. Plus, as I've said, they've rejected the league twice already, so [expletive] them.

 

Texas? LOL

No 'probably' about it. ND makes significantly less money as an independent than they would in the Big Tweleven. Jack Swarbrick even said so.

 

when they were in BCS bowls, they had a leg to stand on (not having to share their take) but now that they're turning down the pizza bowl, I'm sure they'd love to have a 1/12th cut of all the big Ten bowl payout

[Andy]

The Notre Dame ship has sailed. They have like 6 years left on their TV contract. Yes, they'd probably make more money in the Big Ten (who has deals with ESPN, ABC and CBS) but I doubt NBC lets them out. Plus, as I've said, they've rejected the league twice already, so [expletive] them.

 

Texas? LOL

No 'probably' about it. ND makes significantly less money as an independent than they would in the Big Tweleven. Jack Swarbrick even said so.

 

when they were in BCS bowls, they had a leg to stand on (not having to share their take) but now that they're turning down the pizza bowl, I'm sure they'd love to have a 1/12th cut of all the big Ten bowl payout

The previous AD made the genius move of negotiating it so that ND receives about a third of the money they used to when making BCS games but receives about twice as much as it used to when it doesn't.

 

I think ND's decision on whether or not to join the Big Ten would have a lot less to do with football than it would with academics and such. It's supposedly the ND faculty and some of the administration that most wants to join the league for academic benefit (basically the ones that are annoyed that Notre Dame has a notable football program and yet reap financial benefit from said football program), but the alumni and most of the fans are vehemently against it.